thanks for reply,, workout four days a week, been lifting bout 6 years, pretty fast metabolism, have always been slender, ex got pregnant with my son , gained a lot of weight along with her, though it only stored around my mid section. with my shirt on i look completely lean, just need to burn it off and want to know a good amount so that i dont kill my gains,, i would just cut them out but i know how important they are to gaining and keeping mass. also, can you lean out without burning more than ur consuming? i couldnt see burning more than 2000ish a day and keeping gains. any reply helps, thanks