A few fellas here have expressed concern to me about my elimation of any direct upper body exercise, so I would like to address this here and now, so here is a quote from an old powerlifting book dat I gots, "Studies have shown that individuals placed on squat only programs with the elimination of upper body exercise with weights will still find an increase in upper body size and strength despite the lack of direct stimulation. THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE OVERLOAD PRINCIPLE." P.S. That last sentence is of prime importance, so we shall see how dis this goes. P.P.S. This lift that I'm doing is basically a bent knee dead wit db's and it invovles movement around 3 joints (knee, hip, and shoulder). As ma boy Mentzer says, "The deadlift involves the use of more muscle mass than any other single exercise" FACT