Author Topic: Randy Coture v. Lyoto Machida (Read 5173 times)

George Whorewell · « **on:** March 09, 2011, 04:44:19 PM »

What a step down in competition for Lyoto. Similar to the slap in the face Dana gave Rampage. Still, as far as big names go, Lyoto should not lose this fight under any circumstances unless he is overly passive.

Why not have Rampage fight Forrest-- that would be a very interesting fight and Page would be hella motivated. Then have Lyoto fight Rashad-- put them on the same card-- winner gets to face each other and then that winner gets the winner of Jones and Shogun. You have two rematches where the guy who lost is looking to redeem themselves against top notch talent.

Of course that would make sense and make for a sick PPV card so of course the UFC is going to try to sell these shit matches as headliners for 50 bucks a pop.

Geo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2011, 06:52:42 PM »

Styles make fights and I won't be surprised to see Couture wear down Machida on the fence and have his way late in the fight...

hard to find anyone better on the fence and grappling is definitely not Machida's fight.

coltrane · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:32:13 PM »

Randy is one of the smartest fighters ever. He will have a game plan for Lyoto.

That being said, I could care less who wins.

GW: Are you picking Rua against Jones still?

George Whorewell · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:46:57 PM »

Yeah, I'm not going to bitch out. However, I doubt he will win unless he catches jones napping and delivers a ko. Who else is on the card?

coltrane · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2011, 01:55:14 PM »

Urijah Faber (24-4; #6 Bantamweight)* vs. Eddie Wineland (18-6-1)
-Jim Miller (19-2; #7 Lightweight)* vs. Kamal Shalorus (7-0-2)
-Nate Marquardt (30-10-2; #3 Middleweight)* vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama (13-3)
-Brendan Schaub (7-1) vs. Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic (27-8-2)

I really don't know who is going to win the jones/rua fight. I don't think you're bitching out picking Rua either. I think we need to see how Jones reacts to getting hit and whether he can be disciplined enough to not be submitted.

George Whorewell · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2011, 02:36:09 PM »

Jesus christ what a piece of shit card. I was actually thinking about going because its in NJ, but with the exception of the main event (which might be one sided as hell) I wouldn't watch any of those fights if they were free.

If Rua can move in and out and pepper Jones with his speed (assuming he is healthy) then he might be able to pull it off. Jones hasn't been hit hard once--If Shogun rings his bell, Jones might fold. That said, if Jones puts Shogun on his back and Shogun doesn't stand up right away, the fight is probably over.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2011, 03:26:45 PM »

Quote from: coltrane on March 10, 2011, 01:32:13 PM

Randy is one of the smartest fighters ever. He will have a game plan for Lyoto.

That being said, I could care less who wins.

GW: Are you picking Rua against Jones still?

what game plan? all of his fights are the same

he has never knocked out anybody

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WeightPSHR · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2011, 07:28:29 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 10, 2011, 03:26:45 PM

what game plan? all of his fights are the same

he has never knocked out anybody

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Randy no game plan...are you serious? or you trolling again?

coltrane · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2011, 06:16:32 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 10, 2011, 03:26:45 PM

what game plan? all of his fights are the same

he has never knocked out anybody

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Youre right. Randy never really thinks about strategies prior to his fight.

You should be kicked off this board for such a stupid comment.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:38:48 AM »

hahaha the tuffers think i should be booted from the board

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BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2011, 11:59:50 AM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 10, 2011, 07:28:29 PM

Randy no game plan...are you serious? or you trolling again?

Randy's gameplans are always the same with a few awkward fights being exceptions. He will have his usual plan in this Lyoto fight and will get TKOd while trying to utilize it coming in for the clinch. Plus hes almost 50.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2011, 12:51:11 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on March 11, 2011, 11:59:50 AM

Randy's gameplans are always the same with a few awkward fights being exceptions. He will have his usual plan in this Lyoto fight and will get TKOd while trying to utilize it coming in for the clinch. Plus hes almost 50.

Call it what you want...Randy does come into fights with a game plan. Earl was stating that Randy has generally has no game plan.

I'm now expecting much from Randy in this fight, but his game plans and intelligence in MMA are a major reason as to why he is even competing at 50.

Think about that for a minute....He's 50...many guys are eying retirement in their mid to late 30's.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:02:14 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 11, 2011, 11:38:48 AM

hahaha the tuffers think i should be booted from the board

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To claim Randy comes into fights with no game plan is insanely ignorant.

One more post like that and we may have to report you for trolling

coltrane · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:03:16 PM »

Cracks me up on here these guys commenting about Randy's lack of gameplan or same gameplan everytime.

Coutour is known for having a well-designed game plan when he fights.

Weighpusher: you're spot on about the 50 year old thing.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:19:41 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 11, 2011, 01:02:14 PM

To claim Randy comes into fights with no game plan is insanely ignorant.

One more post like that and we may have to report you for trolling

here is his gamplan for every fight

dirty boxing, wrestle them to ground, win the fight with ground and pound

i'm sure he is planning to stand with lyoto and throw round house kicks, maybe he'll alllow machida to take him to the ground to put a kimura on him

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Earl1972 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:21:41 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 11, 2011, 12:51:11 PM

Call it what you want...Randy does come into fights with a game plan. Earl was stating that Randy has generally has no game plan.

I'm now expecting much from Randy in this fight, but his game plans and intelligence in MMA are a major reason as to why he is even competing at 50.

Think about that for a minute....He's 50...many guys are eying retirement in their mid to late 30's.

he fights because he gets big pay days, dana hands him title fights, tuffers like you keep paying money to watch his boring fights and you like him because he's a "nice guy"

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BILL ANVIL · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:28:36 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 11, 2011, 01:21:41 PM

he fights because he gets big pay days, dana hands him title fights, tuffers like you keep paying money to watch his boring fights and you like him because he's a "nice guy"

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Don't disagree with him or he'll have you banned.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2011, 01:59:08 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 11, 2011, 01:19:41 PM

here is his gamplan for every fight

dirty boxing, wrestle them to ground, win the fight with ground and pound

i'm sure he is planning to stand with lyoto and throw round house kicks, maybe he'll alllow machida to take him to the ground to put a kimura on him

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You just stated earlier that Randy has no plan....make up your mind troll.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2011, 02:05:25 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 11, 2011, 01:21:41 PM

he fights because he gets big pay days, dana hands him title fights, tuffers like you keep paying money to watch his boring fights and you like him because he's a "nice guy"

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That's not bad set up for Randy is it? He's a fan favorite for a reason, and I don't think I've ever heard any fighters talk badly of Couture.

I can guarantee you that Randy is fighting because he loves to compete. He's made plenty of money fighting, plus movie rolls and schools, you can be certain he doesn't need the money. Plus, it's not like Machida is an easy payday.

We will never see another Randy in this sport...enjoy it while you can.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2011, 02:06:33 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on March 11, 2011, 01:28:36 PM

Don't disagree with him or he'll have you banned.

You disagree with me constantly, have I had you banned.

Post reported for slander

Earl1972 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:01:25 PM »

Quote from: BILL ANVIL on March 11, 2011, 01:28:36 PM

Don't disagree with him or he'll have you banned.

banning me is admitting to being owned

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Earl1972 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:02:23 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 11, 2011, 01:59:08 PM

You just stated earlier that Randy has no plan....make up your mind troll.

his game plan is the same for every fight, you act like he is some fighting "mad scientist" that is learning new techniques never seen before

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Earl1972 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2011, 03:04:52 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 11, 2011, 02:05:25 PM

That's not bad set up for Randy is it? He's a fan favorite for a reason, and I don't think I've ever heard any fighters talk badly of Couture.

I can guarantee you that Randy is fighting because he loves to compete. He's made plenty of money fighting, plus movie rolls and schools, you can be certain he doesn't need the money. Plus, it's not like Machida is an easy payday.

We will never see another Randy in this sport...enjoy it while you can.

and i've never heard fighters say he's the best fighter ever, there are dozens that said Fedor is the best heck werdum beat him and minutes later was calling him the best ever

randy is a good guy but a boring and overrated fighter, we will never see another Fedor

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WeightPSHR · « **Reply #23 on:** March 11, 2011, 07:24:55 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 11, 2011, 03:04:52 PM

and i've never heard fighters say he's the best fighter ever, there are dozens that said Fedor is the best heck werdum beat him and minutes later was calling him the best ever

randy is a good guy but a boring and overrated fighter, we will never see another Fedor

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In 10 years, nobody will even remember who Fedor is. You have to realize, Fedor blew his opportunity to make a name for himself in the modern sport of MMA.

Today's MMA fan can't even say his name, let alone remember him. He will forever be that 'fat Russian'

George Whorewell · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2011, 07:28:03 PM »

Randy fucking blows. Overhyped old man who has won 2 big fights his entire career. His gameplan is to do the same exact thing every single time against every single opponent. Clinch and dirty boxing up against the cage and hope the guy falls down so he can gnp.

Lyoto is going to absolutely embarass him unless he is overly passive, which I doubt will happen based on the Rampage decision.

Randy being a "nice guy" is probably why Dana keeps giving him gifts like the one he got against Brandon Vera and why he keeps feeding him to top flight competitors like James Toney and Mark Coleman.