Author Topic: Manny Pacquiao Vs. Sugar Shane IS TODAY (Saturday, May 7th) (Read 35609 times)

che · « **Reply #150 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:22:42 PM »

Oscar and Mosley were over the hill way past their prime but Cotto, Clottey ,Hatton ,Marquez ,Morales they are legit wins for Manny ,because a fighter loses a fight it doesn't mean they are shot and don't forget that Manny is a very small guy fighting &guy/stronger fighters.

Flexb · « **Reply #151 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:24:14 PM »

Let's see Pac fight this man.

Even if they could meet at a reasonable weight, Freddie wouldn't let Pac in the same area as Sergio.

che · « **Reply #152 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:26:16 PM »

Quote from: Flexb on May 07, 2011, 10:24:14 PM

Let's see Pac fight this man.

Even if they could meet at a reasonable weight, Freddie wouldn't let Pac in the same area as Sergio.

Sergio can't make 150lbs

Flexb · « **Reply #153 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:32:27 PM »

Quote from: che on May 07, 2011, 10:26:16 PM

Sergio can't make 150lbs

He was at 154 in '08-'09. Wouldn't make much sense for him to drop down and take the risk now though unless there were completely no other options. Freddie would want him drained down to 147, weak and walking dead before Manny fights him.

K-1 · « **Reply #154 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Flexb on May 07, 2011, 10:15:48 PM

Coach, Oscar's face was fuked up from Stevie Forbes before the Pac fight. Stevie fukin Forbes. Oscar was so over the hill it wasn't even funny. He was smart to quit. It doesn't take a tough guy to get beat on, it takes a dumb one. Oscar knew he couldn't do fuk all, even said his mind knew what to do but his body wasn't following through.

true...stevie notted oscar's a$$ up pretty good too. the post fight was hilarious...smaller steve forbes not a scratch on him the UD victor delahoya looked like he got his with a bag of fk'n cement. LOL

outby43 · « **Reply #155 on:** May 07, 2011, 10:49:12 PM »

Quote from: Flexb on May 07, 2011, 10:03:22 PM

You must not watch boxing much.

not anymore because of bullshit fights like this one.

Now I have to go beat the piss out of my wife just to get some satisfaction.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #156 on:** May 08, 2011, 04:32:48 AM »

Quote from: outby43 on May 07, 2011, 10:49:12 PM

not anymore because of bullshit fights like this one.

Now I have to go beat the piss out of my wife just to get some satisfaction.

LOL.

local hero · « **Reply #157 on:** May 08, 2011, 04:39:25 AM »

i think floyd will fancy this fight much more after watching mosleys performance, on brit tv there was a comment that prince nazeem hamed stated he thinks floyd has mannies ticket, and will put big money on it...

i still fancy pac man tho...(no homo )

G_Thang · « **Reply #158 on:** May 08, 2011, 05:05:44 AM »

Quote from: che on May 07, 2011, 10:26:16 PM

Sergio can't make 150lbs

his handlers already said they'd prefer he fight at 153-154 vs trying to put him 5'9" in the ring with a 6'0" SMW at a catch weight for 163-164. manny already fought Marg 5'11" at 153-4. once again, roach and arum at work saying Sergio is TOO big.

the better fight at 153-54 is actually Sergio vs FMW.

Forget I typed that.

A good boxer with speed and life in him will give Manny hell. FMW could bring the fight to a stand still, would counter Manny out the right the minute he tried to up the pace like he did again a dead fighter like Shane.

BTW, Shane will need this last payday to still payoff the ex and pay for the new one.

Candidates:

Judah at 143-144 - Roach and Arum said no because he is on a win streak of 6 fights and has life again after leaving 147 which was too much for him. Manny wins but Judah still has the ability to get a punch off faster.

Bradley - After the Mosley fight, I'm not so sure. Manny is 34 or whatever, is slowing down a bit. Maybe Bradley gives him trouble. But i think since Bradley throws marshmellows vs this year's fight of the year candidates (below), it's a safe fight for Arum.

Marquez - FMW exposed him a 147. Arum will say this is the only money fight for Manny but even Manny vs Clottie sold 1.1M PPVs. in other words Manny is the draw, not his opponent. Someone needs to call Arums BS.

Berto or Ortiz - Why did I even bother typing that?

IFBB and WBA Champs - Still too young, too good, too european. Either one won't fight stateside, and Arum isnt fucking with a unification fight with a REAL champ over 138.

I said I give manny credit for Cotto, but other fights are BS over super lightweight. He was a legit fighter light weight and down. You know they are cherry picking his fights.

asbrus · « **Reply #159 on:** May 08, 2011, 05:20:53 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 08, 2011, 05:05:44 AM

his handlers already said they'd prefer he fight at 153-154 vs trying to put him 5'9" in the ring with a 6'0" SMW at a catch weight for 163-164. manny already fought Marg 5'11" at 153-4. once again, roach and arum at work saying Sergio is TOO big.

the better fight at 153-54 is actually Sergio vs FMW. Forget I typed that.

A good boxer with speed and life in him will give Manny hell. FMW could bring the fight to a stand still, would counter Manny out the right the minute he tried to up the pace like he did again a dead fighter like Shane.

BTW, Shane will need this last payday to still payoff the ex and pay for the new one.

Candidates:

Judah at 143-144 - Roach and Arum said no because he is on a win streak of 6 fights and has life again after leaving 147 which was too much for him. Manny wins but Judah still has the ability to get a punch off faster.

Bradley - After the Mosley fight, I'm not so sure. Manny is 34 or whatever, is slowing down a bit. Maybe Bradley gives him trouble. But i think since Bradley throws marshmellows vs this year's fight of the year candidates (below), it's a safe fight for Arum.

Marquez - FMW exposed him a 147. Arum will say this is the only money fight for Manny but even Manny vs Clottie sold 1.1M PPVs. in other words Manny is the draw, not his opponent. Someone needs to call Arums BS.

Berto or Ortiz - Why did I even bother typing that?

IFBB and WBA Champs - Still too young, too good, too european. Either one won't fight stateside, and Arum isnt fucking with a unification fight with a REAL champ over 138.

I said I give manny credit for Cotto, but other fights are BS over super lightweight. He was a legit fighter light weight and down. You know they are cherry picking his fights.

L0L BRADLEY AND JUDAH ARE N0T 0N M0SLEY'S LEVEL. Y0U MUST BE TR0LLING. ARE Y0U SERI0USLY SAYING MANNY IS D0DGING FIGHTS N0W? W0W AND JUDAH F0R CRYING 0UT L0UD.

asbrus · « **Reply #160 on:** May 08, 2011, 05:21:46 AM »

Quote from: che on May 07, 2011, 10:08:30 PM

Pacquiao isn't a technical fighter

HE IS. HE FIGHTS AT ANGLES. HE'S ACTUALLY ALL TECHNIQUE. HE THR0WS 5-6 PUNCHES AT 0NCE IN 2-3 DIFFERENT ANGLES. THE FIGHTER D0SEN'T KN0W WHAT HIT HIM.

G_Thang · « **Reply #161 on:** May 08, 2011, 05:31:41 AM »

Quote from: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 05:20:53 AM

L0L BRADLEY AND JUDAH ARE N0T 0N M0SLEY'S LEVEL. Y0U MUST BE TR0LLING. ARE Y0U SERI0USLY SAYING MANNY IS D0DGING FIGHTS N0W? W0W AND JUDAH F0R CRYING 0UT L0UD.

Bitch Gimmick, go look at Arum's comments. Why aren't FMW and Manny avoiding fights?

IFBB Champ 147
WBA Champ 147
Ortiz 147
Berto 147
Martinez 153 (in the mix now)
Judah's name was brought up to Arum, and he said NO at 143 but YES to Marquez at the weight
Bradley is the consensus fighter if Manny fights a young black fighter but has marshmellow hands and has to inflate up to 147 like Marquez. Good win for Manny if Arum lets it happen.

Manny is basically fighting guys coming off bad performances or just at the end of the road. I don't blame, Manny, blame Arum's bank account, because Manny will be a broke Bitch in the Fils in 10 yrs, but he'll have his state salary.

Jaime · « **Reply #162 on:** May 08, 2011, 06:18:40 AM »

Quote from: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 05:21:46 AM

HE IS. HE FIGHTS AT ANGLES. HE'S ACTUALLY ALL TECHNIQUE. HE THR0WS 5-6 PUNCHES AT 0NCE IN 2-3 DIFFERENT ANGLES. THE FIGHTER D0SEN'T KN0W WHAT HIT HIM.

He also has no fucking defence against anyone that can counter punch well.

G_Thang · « **Reply #163 on:** May 08, 2011, 06:57:38 AM »

JOKE.

Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said after mismatch that a third bout against Juan Manuel Marquez could be in the cards, unless his charge could come to terms on a contest the entire boxing community, sports world and PPV distributors want to see -- a megafight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. A Pacquiao-Mayweather bout was derailed in 2010 over the latter's demands for random drug testing. Since then, Mayweather has begun embroiled in legal trouble and issued an ethnic, homophobic rant on Ustream against the man he is vying with for the mythical best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet designation.
There have been reports that Pacquiao-Marquez could meet in October. Marquez has twice fought Pacquiao, overcoming three knockdowns in the opening round to earn a draw when they first battled in May 2004 before losing his WBC super-featherweight title to the Filipino in a controversial split decision in March 2008.

FMW already proved Marquez is nothing at 147. Now, Pac will take on another FMW ex.

che · « **Reply #164 on:** May 08, 2011, 07:36:51 AM »

Quote from: asbrus on May 08, 2011, 05:21:46 AM

HE IS. HE FIGHTS AT ANGLES. HE'S ACTUALLY ALL TECHNIQUE. HE THR0WS 5-6 PUNCHES AT 0NCE IN 2-3 DIFFERENT ANGLES. THE FIGHTER D0SEN'T KN0W WHAT HIT HIM.

Haha ,OK assbruise.

Flexb · « **Reply #165 on:** May 08, 2011, 07:48:21 AM »

Manny carried Mosley I think. After he rocked him in the third he stepped off the gas. Either that or Manny is starting to slide.

Shockwave · « **Reply #166 on:** May 08, 2011, 08:20:58 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 08, 2011, 06:57:38 AM

JOKE.

Pacquiao's trainer Freddie Roach said after mismatch that a third bout against Juan Manuel Marquez could be in the cards, unless his charge could come to terms on a contest the entire boxing community, sports world and PPV distributors want to see -- a megafight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. A Pacquiao-Mayweather bout was derailed in 2010 over the latter's demands for random drug testing. Since then, Mayweather has begun embroiled in legal trouble and issued an ethnic, homophobic rant on Ustream against the man he is vying with for the mythical best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet designation.
There have been reports that Pacquiao-Marquez could meet in October. Marquez has twice fought Pacquiao, overcoming three knockdowns in the opening round to earn a draw when they first battled in May 2004 before losing his WBC super-featherweight title to the Filipino in a controversial split decision in March 2008.

FMW already proved Marquez is nothing at 147. Now, Pac will take on another FMW ex.

Dude, get of Floyds nuts.
Dude is a bitch plain and simple, dodging Manny the way he has.
He's scared of getting exposed.
Even I can see that, and I know jack shit about boxing.

G_Thang · « **Reply #167 on:** May 08, 2011, 08:34:47 AM »

Quote from: Shockwave on May 08, 2011, 08:20:58 AM

Dude, get of Floyds nuts.
Dude is a bitch plain and simple, dodging Manny the way he has.
He's scared of getting exposed.
Even I can see that, and I know jack shit about boxing.

manny looked exposed tonight, doesn't really adjust if the fight is slowed down to a crawl.

you can only fight manny if you drop your promotion, so arum gets that cut. i guess you dont know the history of fmw vs arum.

fmw said he'd take 100M to fight manny. in other words, manny just drop arum and lets neg a great deal between us two fighters. sorry, arum and roach got manny by the balls and had him sign a deal with the devil when he walked into roaches guym, so he isn't fighting until arum breaks him down and pockets his 37% a gag.

manny P4P after last night.

get your 50$ ready for the Marquez vs Manny III joke in Oct.

Go Arum!

che · « **Reply #168 on:** May 08, 2011, 09:49:49 AM »

Quote from: G_Thang on May 08, 2011, 08:34:47 AM

manny looked exposed tonight

haha,ok thong

K-1 · « **Reply #169 on:** May 08, 2011, 10:04:41 AM »

typical shane packing it in last night rd 2 before the knockdown. This guy puzzles me at times. His stubborn attitude works in favor or against him at times. Naz was basically running a therapy session in between rds simply to get shane back in the fight...reminds me of what his dad used to do with him vs forrest, wright even oscar in first fight at rd 5-6. Puzzling for such a decorated fighter.

As far as manny..nothings changed..the guy comes forward and he comes to fight. It is what it is with him. Angles and rapid fire out the south paw stance. Your biggest fear as a right handed fighter is getting caught at HIS angle out HIS stance with something you didn't see. You will go down if caught no matter his size.

As far as floyd vs manny...floyd's defense kills that angle sh*t completely b/c he goes into that shell and will simply push him off, raise the elbow, catch the shots and counter..pot shot, and turn manny while manny is trying to turn him. I still conclude manny vs pbf would be a bore fest with floyd winning a bore fest.

floyd vs manny will not live up to the hype in my opinion. two totally different styles. One rapid fire and one that will catch every single shot with his gloves to land his one counter. Boring.

Bring on martinez vs williams III, Ortiz vs Berto II, Hopkins vs Pascal II, Kahn vs Prescott II, Klit vs Haye..etc. there are TONS of fights I'd love to see on top of manny vs floyd in boxing. They are not the only two carrying boxing imo. If they don't fight, oh well.

G_Thang · « **Reply #170 on:** May 08, 2011, 11:05:29 AM »

Quote from: K-1 on May 08, 2011, 10:04:41 AM

Bring on martinez vs williams III, Ortiz vs Berto II, Hopkins vs Pascal II, Kahn vs Prescott II, Klit vs Haye..etc. there are TONS of fights I'd love to see on top of manny vs floyd in boxing. They are not the only two carrying boxing imo. If they don't fight, oh well.

i'm glad you see thru the manny BS, and yes, pull out the Tylenol PM when he and FMW fight. FMW will clinch, elbow and tie-up after every one of his counter shots.

martinez vs williams III - unless williams finds magical hand speed, he'll get hurt again.

Hopkins vs Pascal II - i didn't care for 1st. Pascal will put in his road work again.

Kahn vs Prescott II - Arum fight. Haven't seen prescott lately. Guess his skills have eroded since the knockout for them to take the rematch.

Ortiz vs Berto II - time for berto to get the damn family out of his corner and bring in steward.

Klit vs Haye - Dreamscape for Haye.

The better fight is for Maranda to go back to 160 and fight Martinez. Maranda is getting killed by SMW and most of them would walk thru Martinez's stuff. Potential fight of the Year.

che · « **Reply #171 on:** May 08, 2011, 11:28:21 AM »

The sound of that punch never gets old .

Cliff Clavin · « **Reply #172 on:** May 08, 2011, 12:01:11 PM »

why dont martinez go up to fight klitschco...you know to test himself and prove he's the best...

Jaime · « **Reply #173 on:** May 08, 2011, 12:09:30 PM »

Quote from: Cliff Clavin on May 08, 2011, 12:01:11 PM

why dont martinez go up to fight klitschco...you know to test himself and prove he's the best...

Martinez has never fought weighing in 200 plus lb, where as Manny has fought around 154lb. Manny needs to stop the cherry picking,

Another thing.

Mosley was looking at Manny like a lover the majority of the fight, what did he touch gloves about 1000 times, take his cheque, be all best buddys, that shit isn't boxing sorry.

Cliff Clavin · « **Reply #174 on:** May 08, 2011, 12:20:53 PM »

Quote from: Jaime on May 08, 2011, 12:09:30 PM

Martinez has never fought weighing in 200 plus lb, where as Manny has fought around 154lb. Manny needs to stop the cherry picking,

that's not the point...point is pacman is fighting 5 weight classes above where he should be and people still wanna discredit him because he hasnt fought this or that person...lets see martinez go up 5-6-7-8 weight classes then on top of that tell him to fight the absolute best in those classes or he's cherry picking...Im a martinez fan btw....

the fight is mayweather and that fight isnt/hasnt happened because of mayweather not pacman...