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Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
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The ranking member on the House Budget Committee said Thursday that the tea party has taken over in the House of Representatives, and turned Speaker John Boehner into little more than a rubber stamp for their social agenda as the government careens toward its first shutdown since 1995.

"Speaker Boehner is not in control," Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) said on a conference call with reporters when asked by TPM about the prospects of a shutdown. "The tea party caucus has their hands on the steering wheel and they are prepared to drive right into a government shut down if they don't get 100% of their demands met."


Van Hollen said the tea party rejection of Democratic offers of billions of dollars in compromise budget cuts comes from a desire to attack entitlements and environmental laws, not reduce the size of government as they've claimed.

"To pretend that they care about deficit reduction here when their real goal is to use this budget battle to impose that social agenda is becoming more obvious everyday," Van Hollen said.
 

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 11:04:16 AM »
Was wondering how long it was going to take for the propaganda machine to kick in. Any Democrat opinion is irrelevant to me, they didn't even present a budget.
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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 11:11:40 AM »
some tea party members welcome a shutdown.
boehner admits a shutdown hurts GOP.

A number of tea party members have been on tv saying NO COMPROMISE.

The reality is that you have to compromise on some things.  The dems cave on NPR, the repubs cave on abortion, you meet in the middle.

(although it is weird the cuts seem to have to stem from the Bible, and not from boring civic things lol)

Boehnner compromised for years.  Both parties do.  Compromise can prevent a shutdown.  Not happening now. 



Does anyone here honestly thing Boehnner controls the tea party members?  Chime in please

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 11:24:50 AM »
some tea party members welcome a shutdown.
boehner admits a shutdown hurts GOP.

A number of tea party members have been on tv saying NO COMPROMISE.

The reality is that you have to compromise on some things.  The dems cave on NPR, the repubs cave on abortion, you meet in the middle.

(although it is weird the cuts seem to have to stem from the Bible, and not from boring civic things lol)

Boehnner compromised for years.  Both parties do.  Compromise can prevent a shutdown.  Not happening now.  



Does anyone here honestly thing Boehnner controls the tea party members?  Chime in please

What compromise do you think there can be? The dollar is weaker again today gas already $4/gallon, prices going up on everything. We tried it the Obama way and shit ain't working.

I always find it strange that compromise is only ever talked about when the Repubs get a majority, never hear that shit when the Dems are in control ( Even though they can't even present a budget). No then its we have to pass the bill to see whats in it ::)
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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 11:25:34 AM »
some tea party members welcome a shutdown.
boehner admits a shutdown hurts GOP.

A number of tea party members have been on tv saying NO COMPROMISE.

The reality is that you have to compromise on some things.  The dems cave on NPR, the repubs cave on abortion, you meet in the middle.

(although it is weird the cuts seem to have to stem from the Bible, and not from boring civic things lol)

Boehnner compromised for years.  Both parties do.  Compromise can prevent a shutdown.  Not happening now. 

Does anyone here honestly thing Boehnner controls the tea party members?  Chime in please
I don't think Boehner can control the tea party.  The tea party representatives aren't looking for compromise, so Boehner is in a no win situation.

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 11:28:03 AM »
some tea party members welcome a shutdown.
boehner admits a shutdown hurts GOP.

A number of tea party members have been on tv saying NO COMPROMISE.

The reality is that you have to compromise on some things.  The dems cave on NPR, the repubs cave on abortion, you meet in the middle.

(although it is weird the cuts seem to have to stem from the Bible, and not from boring civic things lol)

Boehnner compromised for years.  Both parties do.  Compromise can prevent a shutdown.  Not happening now. 



Does anyone here honestly thing Boehnner controls the tea party members?  Chime in please

The Dems, blaming the Tea Party, are showing just how stupid and pitiful they really are. There WAS NO TEA PARTY IN CONGRESS in 2010, when the Dems had COMPLETE control of Washington.

Almost every time someone has asked a Democrat senator or congressman, why they didn't pass a budget in 2010 with complete control, they've hemmed and hawed and clucked and ducked.

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 11:29:00 AM »
This is entirely on Obama for his last two years of fiscal insanity.   I want Lt. Col. west out there w Bachmann w the charts showing the financial insanity of obama over the last two years and shut this mofo down until bama ends his crazy nonsense.      

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 12:06:05 PM »
i hope the Dems don't cave on this one

Boehner has completely lost control and we're facing a government shutdown not over $$$'s but over ideology

TeaBaggers want to defund Planned Parenthood, an organization where 97% of it's activities are devoted to womens health care: Contraception, Preventing and Treating STD's, Cancer Screening, etc...



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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 12:08:40 PM »
Nice propaganda but most are well aware of what "Planned Parenthood" does
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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 12:10:46 PM »
i hope the Dems don't cave on this one

Boehner has completely lost control and we're facing a government shutdown not over $$$'s but over ideology

TeaBaggers want to defund Planned Parenthood, an organization where 97% of it's activities are devoted to womens health care: Contraception, Preventing and Treating STD's, Cancer Screening, etc...




How do you know Boehner has "lost control"? Any facts on this or is it just your assertion?

And one more time everyone, the Democrats had complete control in D.C. for quite some time and they didn't pass a budget.

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 12:13:07 PM »
Nice propaganda but most are well aware of what "Planned Parenthood" does

you're saying the info I posted is false?


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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 12:13:59 PM »
How do you know Boehner has "lost control"? Any facts on this or is it just your assertion?

And one more time everyone, the Democrats had complete control in D.C. for quite some time and they didn't pass a budget.

just my assertion ...... OBVIOUSLY


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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 12:14:11 PM »
For me its simple:

1.65 TRILLION DEFICIT

Obama wants to shut the govt down over 61 Bill in cuts.


Case closed.    He is a reckless madoff at best.  

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 12:16:32 PM »
For me its simple:

1.65 TRILLION DEFICIT

Obama wants to shut the govt down over 61 Bill in cuts.


Case closed.    He is a reckless madoff at best.  

yeah but this has nothing to do with $$$$

if the Repubs get all the $$$$ they want they still can't wrangle in their Tea Bagger ideolouges

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2011, 12:19:00 PM »
1.65 TRILLION DEFICIT   


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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2011, 12:21:17 PM »
i hope the Dems don't cave on this one

Boehner has completely lost control and we're facing a government shutdown not over $$$'s but over ideology

TeaBaggers want to defund Planned Parenthood, an organization where 97% of it's activities are devoted to womens health care: Contraception, Preventing and Treating STD's, Cancer Screening, etc...

Let's see how important planned parenthood is when we're all standing in bread lines.  It's too late for pie charts. 

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2011, 12:23:03 PM »
According to the communist/traitor/marxist/madoff left - abortion is on the same level as the military.     

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2011, 12:25:10 PM »
you're saying the info I posted is false?



I'm saying do a little research on the illegal shit that organization does. Hell it was founded by Margaret Sanger, she's real piece of work.

“[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children…”[vii]

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”[viii]

“Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”[ix]

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…”


“Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need … We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.”[xi]

“Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.”[xii]

“The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind.”[xiii]

“The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped”[xiv]
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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2011, 12:27:37 PM »
The left wing in this nation are doing the work of bin laden, marx, lenin, mao, roseburg, et al. 

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2011, 12:27:53 PM »
i hope the Dems don't cave on this one

Boehner has completely lost control and we're facing a government shutdown not over $$$'s but over ideology

TeaBaggers want to defund Planned Parenthood, an organization where 97% of it's activities are devoted to womens health care: Contraception, Preventing and Treating STD's, Cancer Screening, etc...




WRONG!!! We're facing shutdown, because Mr. Hope-and-Change and his merry band of GOOFBALLS didn't pass the budget, WHEN THEY HAD COMPLETE CONTROL OF WASHINGTON.

They were too scared to put forth a budget, because they planned on spending us further into oblivion and they knew that, if they did, they'd take an even greater @$$-whipping than they did at midterms.

There were virtually NO Tea Party folk in Congress, in 2010. So, spare us your blubbering about "teabaggers". And, quit making excuses as for why the Messiah and his crew didn't get the job done.

My greatest concern is that our troops, NOW INVOLVED IN A THIRD WAR, won't get paid, because Obama's too concerned about federal funding for baby-killing.


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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2011, 12:58:53 PM »
I'm saying do a little research on the illegal shit that organization does. Hell it was founded by Margaret Sanger, she's real piece of work.

“[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children…”[vii]

“The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”[viii]

“Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”[ix]

“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…”


“Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need … We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.”[xi]

“Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.”[xii]

“The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind.”[xiii]

“The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped”[xiv]


So.    No dispute then that 97% of what they do is provide various kinds of healthcare for women and only 3% is abortion services

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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2011, 01:03:18 PM »
Never mind, I'm not going to waste anymore time discussing this with you
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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2011, 01:05:08 PM »
According to Obama - abortions for degenerates are more important than the military.   


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Re: Van Hollen On House GOP: 'Speaker Boehner Is Not In Control'
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2011, 01:37:21 PM »
Never mind, I'm not going to waste anymore time discussing this with you

dude - I gave you a simple chart showing the services they provide

if you were able to dispute it with facts you would have done so already