People brainwashed into supporting capitalism

[Firemuscle]

 I'm not a communist. And I don't hate capitalism.

 But. It's funny to me to see how so many Americans have a blind hatred for Communism. And a sheep-like, unbreakable support for capitalism.

 This is what the elites have shoved down our throats. This is the shit people have swallowed. The media pounded into our heads that Capitalism is the best system, and Communism is shite. And most Americans just swallowed it without thinking about it.

 Capitalism is a good system in some ways. But it's got it's problems.

 Communism is similar. Good in some ways, flawed in other ways.

 Just think about it with an open mind instead of being mindless.

[Mr. Magoo]

thank you professor for your original thought

 

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I'm not a communist. And I don't hate capitalism.

 But. It's funny to me to see how so many Americans have a blind hatred for Communism. And a sheep-like, unbreakable support for capitalism.

 This is what the elites have shoved down our throats. This is the shit people have swallowed. The media pounded into our heads that Capitalism is the best system, and Communism is shite. And most Americans just swallowed it without thinking about it.

 Capitalism is a good system in some ways. But it's got it's problems.

 Communism is similar. Good in some ways, flawed in other ways.

 Just think about it with an open mind instead of being mindless.

If you study politics you do but most people don't 

[Firemuscle]

If you study politics you do but most people don't :\

 I've studied politics a lot.

 Usually people who study politics a lot realize that Communism is not evil or horrible. It's just an economic system, and there are elements of communism in every countrie's economy, including America's.

 Why do people have such a hate for Communism? It just seems like groupthinking and herd mentality. People lost in the social conditioning that they have been exposed to since they were children.

[Master Blaster]

communism as it's conceived and written has never been tried on a large scale successfully, (kind of like christianity as conceived by jesus   )

When you consider the gulags, the mass starvation the tens of millions of its own people that it has killed... if you study history, as leafy mentiones, it kind of puts things in perspective

its easy to smoke a little weed and live in your tiny little world and think you are some kind of out of the box thinker whoes totallty open to doing the whole moral equivalence thing

most of us get over that shit when we graduate college

[Emmortal]

The problem isn't capitalism it's how the we've implemented it.  Capitalism is by far the best economic system around, it brings poor countries from poverty into wealth, frees people from opression allowing them to flourish on every level.  Don't even start on socialism, it's by far the WORST system out there.  Just look at the down turn of our own country as we've gone to near pure capitalism to socialism.

[Firemuscle]

communism as it's conceived and written has never been tried on a large scale successfully, (kind of like christianity as conceived by jesus   )

When you consider the gulags, the mass starvation the tens of millions of its own people that it has killed... if you study history, as leafy mentiones, it kind of puts things in perspective

its easy to smoke a little weed and live in your tiny little world and think you are some kind of out of the box thinker whoes totallty open to doing the whole moral equivalence thing

most of us get over that shit when we graduate college

 The problems with Communism related to totalitarianism and tyranny could easily be avoided in the future.

 Also, many, many Capitalist countries are all fucked up with atrocities and genocides and all that.

 Capitalism kills lots and lots and lots of people too. But in capitalism, the ones who get screwed are those poor brown and black people in foreign countries. And Americans who get screwed by capitalism are branded as "lazy, stupid, free-loaders" etc.

 It's all just an ignorant little game in which black and white thinking is the norm when there is really a huge grey area.

[Mr. Magoo]

I've studied politics a lot.
 Usually people who study politics a lot realize that Communism is not evil or horrible. It's just an economic system, and there are elements of communism in every countrie's economy, including America's.

 Why do people have such a hate for Communism? It just seems like groupthinking and herd mentality. People lost in the social conditioning that they have been exposed to since they were children.

I highly doubt that. You sound like someone who just finished their intro to american government class or you just read marx for the first time.

[Firemuscle]

The problem isn't capitalism it's how the we've implemented it.  Capitalism is by far the best economic system around, it brings poor countries from poverty into wealth, frees people from opression allowing them to flourish on every level.  Don't even start on socialism, it's by far the WORST system out there.  Just look at the down turn of our own country as we've gone to near pure capitalism to socialism.

 There are a few major problems with capitalism.

 First. It is horrible for the environment. If things continue as they are, a global capitalist system with over 8 million people consuming, we are gonna pollute ourselves into oblivion and use up the world's resources very soon.

 Second. In Capitalism lots of people get screwed. Lots of people get screwed hard. But they are villified by the masses and looked down upon. A convienant way to keep a clear conscious I suppose.

 Communism has some major problems too. It's vulnerable to totalitarianism and abuse of power. Sometimes the government gets too heavy in Communist countries. These are problems.

 Both system have their problems.....

[Firemuscle]

I highly doubt that. You sound like someone who just finished their intro to american government class or you just read marx for the first time.

 I have my Bachelors degree and i'm in my thirties.

 I'm not some jackass 20 year old college sophomore who think's he knows everything.

 Just because you disagree with me, doesn't mean that I am wrong.

 I think this thread is conflicting with your social conditioning, so it's making you uncomfortable.

[Emmortal]

There are a few major problems with capitalism.

 First. It is horrible for the environment. If things continue as they are, a global capitalist system with over 8 million people consuming, we are gonna pollute ourselves into oblivion and use up the world's resources very soon.

 Second. In Capitalism lots of people get screwed. Lots of people get screwed hard. But they are villified by the masses and looked down upon. A convienant way to keep a clear conscious I suppose.

 Communism has some major problems too. It's vulnerable to totalitarianism and abuse of power. Sometimes the government gets too heavy in Communist countries. These are problems.

 Both system have their problems.....

Capitalism has absolutely nothing to do with polluting the environment.  I think you need to revisit the worth of that degree you invested in.

[Grape Ape]

The problems with Communism related to totalitarianism and tyranny could easily be avoided in the future.

So it's never really worked, but man, this next time, someone will get it right.

[Mr. Magoo]

I have my Bachelors degree and i'm in my thirties.

 I'm not some jackass 20 year old college sophomore who think's he knows everything.

 Just because you disagree with me, doesn't mean that I am wrong.

 I think this thread is conflicting with your social conditioning, so it's making you uncomfortable.

Dude so what? Bachelors aren't that hard to get. Even if you got it in political science, still doesnt mean much. I've met a bunch of dumbasses in the political science department.

By the way, you should have had this "original" thought about 13 years ago.

[Firemuscle]

Capitalism has absolutely nothing to do with polluting the environment.  I think you need to revisit the worth of that degree you invested in.

 Capitalism definitely pollutes the environment a lot because it is the system of mass consumption and fierce competion.

 Under Communist economic systems, waste and pollution are reduced in almost every area.

 Seriously man, you are just ignorant if you don't know this. This is basic stuff that is universally accepted as truth.

 What the fuck is happening in the USA right now? Seems like everyone is turning in total conservatives??? I guess Obama is pissing everyone off and making them move to the right.

[Roger Bacon]

I know people with their Masters that are ridiculously hopeless.

[Emmortal]

Capitalism definitely pollutes the environment a lot because it is the system of mass consumption and fierce competion.

 Under Communist economic systems, waste and pollution are reduced in almost every area.

 Seriously man, you are just ignorant if you don't know this. This is basic stuff that is universally accepted as truth.

 What the fuck is happening in the USA right now? Seems like everyone is turning in total conservatives??? I guess Obama is pissing everyone off and making them move to the right.

You are hopelessly confusing consumerism with capitalism which are unrelated.

[The Grim Lifter]

Does the USA hate communism because those people in China are all slave labour and depressed and shit  

[Firemuscle]

Dude so what? Bachelors aren't that hard to get. Even if you got it in political science, still doesnt mean much. I've met a bunch of dumbasses in the political science department.

By the way, you should have had this "original" thought about 13 years ago.

 What the fuck are you talking about with this "original thought" bullshit?

 A B.A. doesn't mean much, but it does mean you are somewhat educated.

[Fury]

 Under Communist economic systems, waste and pollution are reduced in almost every area.

The fuck are you talking about? China is well on their way to being the biggest polluters on the planet, if they haven't already assumed that title. They have next to no regulation of pollution and the air in many of the largest Chinese cities is so ridiculously polluted that it's almost impossible to breathe on bad days.

Yeah, communists really take care of the environment. 

[SweetMuscles]

I have my Bachelors degree and i'm in my thirties.

 I'm not some jackass 20 year old college sophomore who think's he knows everything.

Then that is kinda sad as you're claiming to be well educated and in your 30s yet you spend most of your life on a bodybuilding messageboard saying juvenile, grade school stuff  like "I took a shit and your mom licked my ass".

 Also have to agree with Magoo; the stuff you're spouting is incredibly cliché....like something a kid will say when he first reads a political science book or something.

No offence intented.

[Firemuscle]

Does the USA hate communism because those people in China are all slave labour and depressed and shit  

 The USA hates Communism because Communist countries don't "play ball" with the US.

 THAT is why the USA brainwashes it's citizens into hating Communism.

 I'd like to say that I don't support Communism and I think pure Communism is a bad system.

 But, I think the best system would be a blend of the best aspects and Communism and Capitalism.

 Pure, 100% free market Capitalism is bad. There needs to be some Communist elements to it to keep it from become totally corrupt and keep the masive inequalites from getting out of control.

[Firemuscle]

The fuck are you talking about? China is well on their way to being the biggest polluters on the planet, if they haven't already assumed that title. They have next to no regulation of pollution and the air in many of the largest Chinese cities is so ridiculously polluted that it's almost impossible to breathe on bad days.

Yeah, communists really take care of the environment. 

 China is not economically Communist. China is economically capitalist.

 They are socially Communist in many ways. But economically there is NOTHING communist about China.

 For you to say this, it shows that you really don't know shit.

[Mr. Magoo]

What the fuck are you talking about with this "original thought" bullshit?

 A B.A. doesn't mean much, but it does mean you are somewhat educated.

you keep talking like all this stuff is your own original thought. As if it was some groundbreaking stuff. This is typical freshmen, intro to political theory crap that you're posting trying to sound smart and as if you have insight.

Does two BAs mean I'm twice as smart as you?   

SweetMuscles is right

[Firemuscle]

Then that is kinda sad as you're claiming to be well educated and in your 30s yet you spend most of your life on a bodybuilding messageboard saying juvenile, grade school stuff  like "I took a shit and your mom licked my ass".

 Also have to agree with Magoo; the stuff you're spouting is incredibly cliché....like something a kid will say when he first reads a political science book or something.

No offence intented.

 Well I could type out tons of detailed infor with sources and solid logic and all that. But i'm just relaxing and shooting the shit, speaking my thoughts, killing time at work.

 It's funny how all the people in this thread are getting all angry at me.

 "He's a Commie! Get him!!!"

[The Grim Lifter]

The USA hates Communism because Communist countries don't "play ball" with the US.

 THAT is why the USA brainwashes it's citizens into hating Communism.

 I'd like to say that I don't support Communism and I think pure Communism is a bad system.

But, I think the best system would be a blend of the best aspects and Communism and Capitalism.

 Pure, 100% free market Capitalism is bad. There needs to be some Communist elements to it to keep it from become totally corrupt and keep the masive inequalites from getting out of control.

Which is what most places are especially the USA once the banks got bailed out.