1995 Mr. Olympia Screenshots

[JP_RC]

anyway let's say the width of a person is measured at his lats,.. nasser is still wider than yates..

conclusion: ND sees with his ass or with his love to dorian and/or his hate to arabs
final conclusion: ND is an idiot and is not shy to keep arguing after he is proved wrong many times
note: no wonder he is the same idiot who said before than nasser was not built to be a mass monster and that fux had a small waist and was a mr. olympia material

I'm guessing ND means Dorian had wider clavicles, which is correct.

[Sherief Shalaby]

 I am tired of hearing how much better Nasser was from the front. Did he have a better front lat spread? No. Did he have a better abs-and-thighs? No. These are all front poses in the muscularity round Nasser wins the front relaxed in the symmetry round and front double biceps in the muscularity round, but Dorian wins the other two poses of the muscularity round. So, it is a wash from the front, with Dorian dominating Nasser on the two side mandatories and well as side relaxed during the symmetry round, and the three mandatories from the back as well as the back relaxed from the back. So Dorian wins two out of three angles during the symmetry round and 5 or 6 of the 7 mandatoories depending on who takes the abs-and-thigs which can go either way. Face it, dude, Nasser was never good enough to beat Dorian in any year.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

even in 97??.. with dorian's totally deformed arm??.. FACE IT, DUDE, BY ANY LOGIC THE BEST PHYSIQUE ON THE PLANET HAS ONE MISSING ARM

[MB]

dorian's legs were very good but if you compare them to nasser's,.. they are smaller/less detailed/worse in shape.. here i am talking about quads!!..

Nasser's legs were too short.  Yates had a balanced structure. 

[Shockwave]

even in 97??.. with dorian's totally deformed arm??.. FACE IT, DUDE, BY ANY LOGIC THE BEST PHYSIQUE ON THE PLANET HAS ONE MISSING ARM

You need to face up to the fact that Nasser was not as good as you make him out to be.
In that pic you posted of Nasser on the side, his chest is thinner than Dorians, and he rolls he shoulder and crunches down, hitting the post wrong. It does make his shoulder look huge due to the angle, but you can still see how thin he is front to back compared to Nasser this year.
Nasser was good yes, but no matter how you try and rewrite history, hes not gonna ever be better than he was. Which was a runner up. He was a NEVER TRUE Mr. O material, he was just too incomplete. Should he have won 97? IMO yes, because Dorian was a mess of injuries and Nasser was the lesser of 2 evils. But aside from that, Nasser was never gonna take the throne being as incomplete as he was, and thats the bottom line.
Hes a solid 2-5. But he would NEVER have taken #1
Dorian - 1 bicep shorter than the other.
Nasser - Missing 1/4 of his body (back), which affects every pose not seen head on. Hence why when they turn sideways you can see Nasser get paper thin front to back.

[Shockwave]

Holy fucking thickness batman.

[Tyr]

You need to face up to the fact that Nasser was not as good as you make him out to be.
In that pic you posted of Nasser on the side, his chest is thinner than Dorians, and he rolls he shoulder and crunches down, hitting the post wrong. It does make his shoulder look huge due to the angle, but you can still see how thin he is front to back compared to Nasser this year.
Nasser was good yes, but no matter how you try and rewrite history, hes not gonna ever be better than he was. Which was a runner up. He was a NEVER TRUE Mr. O material, he was just too incomplete. Should he have won 97? IMO yes, because Dorian was a mess of injuries and Nasser was the lesser of 2 evils. But aside from that, Nasser was never gonna take the throne being as incomplete as he was, and thats the bottom line.
Hes a solid 2-5. But he would NEVER have taken #1
Dorian - 1 bicep shorter than the other.
Nasser - Missing 1/4 of his body (back), which affects every pose not seen head on. Hence why when they turn sideways you can see Nasser get paper thin front to back.

Don't confuse poor shala-crybaby. His ignorance and man love for nasser blinds him from reality.  How is he going to jerk off in front of his tattered nasser poster when you keep interjecting facts into his daydreams? 

As usual he's getting mindraped by ND and will probably end up huddled in a corner of his hovel sobbing his eyes out.....again. 

[JP_RC]

Holy fucking thickness batman.

Those arms.  

And where is his vastus lateralis?

He looks like the hunchback of notre dame with that bump on his back.  

[hench]

Nasser definitely looks better in some poses such as the fdb, but as a whole conditioning included Dorian is superior

[RocketSwitch625]

that bump on his back.  

Part of the backdrop.

[Sherief Shalaby]

You need to face up to the fact that Nasser was not as good as you make him out to be.
In that pic you posted of Nasser on the side, his chest is thinner than Dorians, and he rolls he shoulder and crunches down, hitting the post wrong. It does make his shoulder look huge due to the angle, but you can still see how thin he is front to back compared to Nasser this year.
Nasser was good yes, but no matter how you try and rewrite history, hes not gonna ever be better than he was. Which was a runner up. He was a NEVER TRUE Mr. O material, he was just too incomplete. Should he have won 97? IMO yes, because Dorian was a mess of injuries and Nasser was the lesser of 2 evils. But aside from that, Nasser was never gonna take the throne being as incomplete as he was, and thats the bottom line.
Hes a solid 2-5. But he would NEVER have taken #1
Dorian - 1 bicep shorter than the other.
Nasser - Missing 1/4 of his body (back), which affects every pose not seen head on. Hence why when they turn sideways you can see Nasser get paper thin front to back.

oh man do you really don't see that nasser's shoulders were MUCH bigger and thicker than yates??.. they were clearly bigger from all angles and he didnt need to do anything to show them bigger because they were really VERY BIG!!.. same can be said about levron's great shoulders,.. they were bigger than yates from all angles.. actually a lot of bbs in dorian's era had better and bigger shoulders than him.. and sure i am not saying his shoulders were bad but imo were a little small for his torso width..

nasser's chest was thin!!!.. no man you are exaggerating here for sure.. yes nasser was not hitting poses accurately as dorian who was showing the best of him in each pose.. if nasser was hitting them the same way as yates or ray he would have looked much better and sure i am not giving him any excuse.. by 1997 he was hitting the FLS correct at the olympia and you can see how much his FLS at 97 olympia was much better than in 95 and 96 although he was in better shapes in 95 and 96!!..

again i am repeating that i see dorian the clear winner here even with his torn biceps but it's ridicules to see someone like ND saying dorian was lighter but looked wider than nasser!!.. and when he was proved wrong with my blue and red lines at the shoulders he said he had meant the width of the back!!.. what now after i proved him wrong again with the lines at the lats level??.. will he say it's the width of their dicks  

[Sherief Shalaby]

Nasser definitely looks better in some poses such as the fdb, but as a whole conditioning included Dorian is superior

yes man and i believe even nasser himself sees dorian the winner here.. but sure nasser looked bigger from the front and it needs no effort to notice this..

[NarcissisticDeity]

anyway let's say the width of a person is measured at his lats,.. nasser is still wider than yates..

conclusion: ND sees with his ass or with his love to dorian and/or his hate to arabs
final conclusion: ND is an idiot and is not shy to keep arguing after he is proved wrong many times
note: no wonder he is the same idiot who said before than nasser was not built to be a mass monster and that fux had a small waist and was a mr. olympia material

hahahaha now Nasser has wider lats than Dorian?  you'e to much little man

you just can't seem to grasp the concept that even if it were true it would mean NOTHING and why? because he's ' bigger ' he's fucking supposed to be DUH and bigger does NOT mean better a very common mistake for Nasser fans , Nasser was bigger than Shawn Ray and Shawn handed him ass so your point even entertaining it's true is still useless so as usual you fail

And you're getting very frustrated and reduced to making things up  so now I hate ' Arabs ' because Dorian crushes your hero? WRONG again little man , Samir Bannout is one of my all-time favorites and he's Arab , opppppssss there go that theory 

And I never once said Nasser was not built to be a mass-monster this is a lie on your behalf in some lame attempt at making me look like I don't know what I'm talking about , I've asked many times to show me where I typed this and needless to say you never could 

I've always said Nasser carried his sized very well and I did say playing mass-monster was counterproductive to his physique , example look at his back which was pretty good , he tried to beat Dorian on size and did and still FAILED ever wonder why?

And lie #2 I never said Fux had a small waist I said a narrow one and I proved my point as well , and you're damn right Fux was Mr Olympia material if he ever tied it all together he had more mass than Nasser AND a back 

so keep making things up and outright lying and I will continue to make you look like a moron in the process , don't worry you have lots of morons to keep you company 

[Sherief Shalaby]

hahahaha now Nasser has wider lats than Dorian?  you'e to much little man

you just can't seem to grasp the concept that even if it were true it would mean NOTHING and why? because he's ' bigger ' he's fucking supposed to be DUH and bigger does NOT mean better a very common mistake for Nasser fans , Nasser was bigger than Shawn Ray and Shawn handed him ass so your point even entertaining it's true is still useless so as usual you fail

And you're getting very frustrated and reduced to making things up  so now I hate ' Arabs ' because Dorian crushes your hero? WRONG again little man , Samir Bannout is one of my all-time favorites and he's Arab , opppppssss there go that theory 

And I never once said Nasser was not built to be a mass-monster this is a lie on your behalf in some lame attempt at making me look like I don't know what I'm talking about , I've asked many times to show me where I typed this and needless to say you never could 

I've always said Nasser carried his sized very well and I did say playing mass-monster was counterproductive to his physique , example look at his back which was pretty good , he tried to beat Dorian on size and did and still FAILED ever wonder why?

And lie #2 I never said Fux had a small waist I said a narrow one and I proved my point as well , and you're damn right Fux was Mr Olympia material if he ever tied it all together he had more mass than Nasser AND a back 

so keep making things up and outright lying and I will continue to make you look like a moron in the process , don't worry you have lots of morons to keep you company 

so now you are changing your words mr. magazines parrot.. our argument is about who looks bigger from the front not who looks better!!.. after i proved you wrong with me blue and red lines you are trying to change the argument (typical ND when he is proved wrong).. and sure nasser looks better from the front than yates in any year but this is not what we were talking about..

[Nirvana]

dorians torso was not as long as nasser's.  I think that makes him look bad

also dorians hands were too narrow, and judges look at structure.

[Nirvana]

nasser is even turned slightly.

dorian is head on

[Jaime]

Shawn should have won although he is a complete fuctard of the highest proportions.

Failing that Nasser, but his back sucked, he is handing Dorian his ass in all of the front shots though, he just lacked back detail.

[Shockwave]

dorians torso was not as long as nasser's.  I think that makes him look bad

also dorians hands were too narrow, and judges look at structure.

Agreed.
Judges also mentioned that Nasser's big toe, was way thicker and more shredded, with more "pop" and 3d look than Dorian, thus effectively handing Nasser the contest.
Not to mention, Nasser had way more visible tendons, and combined with his superior pelvic bone, was more than enough to knock out the champ.

[Shockwave]

oh man do you really don't see that nasser's shoulders were MUCH bigger and thicker than yates??.. they were clearly bigger from all angles and he didnt need to do anything to show them bigger because they were really VERY BIG!!.. same can be said about levron's great shoulders,.. they were bigger than yates from all angles.. actually a lot of bbs in dorian's era had better and bigger shoulders than him.. and sure i am not saying his shoulders were bad but imo were a little small for his torso width..

nasser's chest was thin!!!.. no man you are exaggerating here for sure.. yes nasser was not hitting poses accurately as dorian who was showing the best of him in each pose.. if nasser was hitting them the same way as yates or ray he would have looked much better and sure i am not giving him any excuse.. by 1997 he was hitting the FLS correct at the olympia and you can see how much his FLS at 97 olympia was much better than in 95 and 96 although he was in better shapes in 95 and 96!!..

again i am repeating that i see dorian the clear winner here even with his torn biceps but it's ridicules to see someone like ND saying dorian was lighter but looked wider than nasser!!.. and when he was proved wrong with my blue and red lines at the shoulders he said he had meant the width of the back!!.. what now after i proved him wrong again with the lines at the lats level??.. will he say it's the width of their dicks  

I never said Nassers shoulder werent bigger, I said that hes hitting the post (wrongly) in such a way that makes his shoulders look MUCH larger, when in effect its an optical illusion.
Case in point, heres a couple pics showing that Nassers shoulders werent as much bigger as you tried to exaggerate them being.
Were they larger? Yes, but not by much, and they werent nearly as dry.
And yes, in this year in particular, Nassers chest was thinner than Dorians. It inserted lower, but it was still thinner. How do you miss these things?
I swear to god you just pick out random things and try and say how much better Nasser was even if its totally fake.

[delta9mda]

shawn is owning nasser in  the bdb shot. how nasser got 3rd is beyond me.

[NarcissisticDeity]

so now you are changing your words mr. magazines parrot.. our argument is about who looks bigger from the front not who looks better!!.. after i proved you wrong with me blue and red lines you are trying to change the argument (typical ND when he is proved wrong).. and sure nasser looks better from the front than yates in any year but this is not what we were talking about..

Hahahahaha the irony , no no Mr stupid it was you who got caught outright lying because you have nothing as usual in a lame attempt at changing the ' argument ' and who looks better from the front? Dorian did hence straight firsts and Nasser a very distant third. , either way you're fucked because if he is it doesn't matter because he still loses it's not an advantage even if you think it is so once again Mr Fail you lose

Nasser looks better than Yates in any year HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Mr Fantasy you live in a splendid world  

[NarcissisticDeity]

I never said Nassers shoulder werent bigger, I said that hes hitting the post (wrongly) in such a way that makes his shoulders look MUCH larger, when in effect its an optical illusion.
Case in point, heres a couple pics showing that Nassers shoulders werent as much bigger as you tried to exaggerate them being.
Were they larger? Yes, but not by much, and they werent nearly as dry.
And yes, in this year in particular, Nassers chest was thinner than Dorians. It inserted lower, but it was still thinner. How do you miss these things?
I swear to god you just pick out random things and try and say how much better Nasser was even if its totally fake.

of course he does , Hulkster did as well , they all do. they create these imaginary flaws and reduce Yates to nothing but a back and calves yet he managed to fool the judges for years on end hahahahahahaha they can't look past their biases and their ignorance

so-and-so has better this , that and those yet NOT one of them managed to beat Dorian why? because this isn't a parts contest it's a bodybuilding contest and people harp about Dorian's bicep and Nasser beats him in the front double biceps pose all the while ignoring his outright flaws in this pose because it doesn't mean that much to them but the judges are another thing

Dorian's shorter bicep in the front double biceps pose is less of a flaw than Nasser's long torso and short legs , how about Nasser's piss-poor forearms? that effects his balance & proportion , what him and the vast majority still can't grasp is ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS , balance & proportion , density & dryness , muscular bulk , posing and presentation are ALL judged at the exact same time so while Nasser might meet part of it better than Dorian , Dorian wins ALL of it better hence why he dominated unlike anyone before or since

[Schmoff]

 

[yates fan]

dorian was the most dominant competitor ever,that has always been clear to me,and what people fail to see when they put up other competitors bodyparts,is that it was the complete package,and a big part of that was the hardness he displayed,which made each bodypart look better,and then add the fact that this was on an over 250# body other than ali in boxing and pele in soccer,no sport has seen this kind of dominance!

[Sherief Shalaby]

Agreed.
Judges also mentioned that Nasser's big toe, was way thicker and more shredded, with more "pop" and 3d look than Dorian, thus effectively handing Nasser the contest.
Not to mention, Nasser had way more visible tendons, and combined with his superior pelvic bone, was more than enough to knock out the champ.

and it goes without saying that dorian has a typical european white color while nasser's ass is naturally tanned (great arab genetics)!!..

[NarcissisticDeity]

lmfao