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As long as it is done legally, nothing. If done illegally, well then its illegal, whats the point of having laws if they aren't enforced?

Slavery was once legal....
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Because those who are here LEGALLY can't compete w illegals.  And once you make the current crop of illegals legal, a new crop and flod of illegals will flood the nation. 

please elaborate...
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Study: 70% of Texas' illegal immigrant families receive welfare


Thirteen years after Congress overhauled the American welfare system, 57 percent of immigrants with children — those in the country legally or not — use at least one government, welfare program according to a report released Tuesday by the Center for Immigration Studies.
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In comparison, 39 percent of native-born Americans with children are signed up for welfare, the report found.

In Texas, 54 percent of legal immigrants and 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance, with illegal immigrants generally receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children, according to the study, written by a think tank that favors reducing immigration into the U.S.

Overall, Texas tied with California and New York for the second highest immigrant welfare rates behind Arizona.



http://blogs.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/04/study_immigrants_with_children.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+houstonchronicle%2Ftxpotomac+%28Texas+on+the+Potomac%29

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Slavery was once legal....

And coke used to contain cocaine,whats your point?
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the flip side to that is that if you're illegal in this country, it's hard to get any kind of job that would get you off welfare.  so this is hardly surprising. 

Study: 70% of Texas' illegal immigrant families receive welfare


Thirteen years after Congress overhauled the American welfare system, 57 percent of immigrants with children — those in the country legally or not — use at least one government, welfare program according to a report released Tuesday by the Center for Immigration Studies.
Immigration logo 125.jpg

In comparison, 39 percent of native-born Americans with children are signed up for welfare, the report found.

In Texas, 54 percent of legal immigrants and 70 percent of illegal immigrants receive welfare assistance, with illegal immigrants generally receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children, according to the study, written by a think tank that favors reducing immigration into the U.S.

Overall, Texas tied with California and New York for the second highest immigrant welfare rates behind Arizona.



http://blogs.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/04/study_immigrants_with_children.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+houstonchronicle%2Ftxpotomac+%28Texas+on+the+Potomac%29

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Simpsom mazoli bill - look it up. 

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How the hell can an illegal receive welfare?

I mean, they discover you are an illegal, they begin deportation.  Is it that whole appeal process?

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Oh please.  The case workers push it through bc it means job security.

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I think CALworks will automatically give you money if you have young kids who are citizens... Taxes probably has something like that.

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And coke used to contain cocaine,whats your point?


Just because something is the "law" doesn't mean shit.  Getting head is still illegal in some states...
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Just because something is the "law" doesn't mean shit.  Getting head is still illegal in some states...

Oh the law doesn't mean shit? Really? So if I'm going by your house and decide I want all your stuff, you wouldn't have a problem with me taking it? After all the law doesn't mean shit
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Every other first-world country on the planet enforces its borders. Even the liberal, multicultural-loving EU is building a wall on the borders with Turkey and stationing troops there to keep all the Muslim riff-raff out.

Only in America.  ::)

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What a joke.   According to mindspin we should make laws based on the .001 percent vs the large portion who cost the taxpayer billions.   

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Obama on border today; can he explain Holder’s ‘Gunrunner’ discrepancy?
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 10 May, 2011 | Dave Workman
Posted on May 10, 2011 9:59:42 PM EDT by marktwain

While President Obama is down on the border today talking about immigration reform, will anyone ask about a serious discrepancy in Attorney General Eric Holder’s testimony before Congress last week, during which he claimed to have not known about the Project Gunrunner controversy until a few weeks ago.

During an interview with Chicago’s WLS-AM’s Don Wade and Roma Friday, Sen. Charles Grassley revealed that he personally handed copies of letters sent on Jan. 27 and a Jan. 31 to Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson, detailing the senator’s concerns about the gun sting, operated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. This column confirmed that January meeting with a Grassley aide this morning. Sen. Grassley subsequently sent other letters to Holder on the Gunrunner controversy, on Feb. 9 and on Feb. 16, and again on March 3. For Holder to have such a memory lapse may be one reason why the Bellevue-based Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms called on Holder to step down. Ten days ago in Pittsburgh, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre also said Holder should go, which this column reported.

During his radio interview (click here), Grassley told WLS:

"But I'm kind of flabbergasted by him saying to the House that he really didn't know about this till just lately because on January 31, I personally handed him a letter so that he would know about my investigation and know about this gun runner situation, but they don't seem to be willing to own up to it.”—Sen. Charles Grassley to WLS

The president today is in El Paso reportedly courting Latino voters and in Austin to collect campaign cash. So far, he has insisted to Univision that he did not approve the operation,

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Obama Claims He’s Done All GOP Wanted on Border Security, Now They Must Pass Amnesty
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Posted on May 10, 2011 8:01:56 PM EDT by Sub-Driver

Obama Claims He’s Done All GOP Wanted on Border Security, Now They Must Pass Amnesty Tuesday, May 10, 2011 By Fred Lucas

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(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama told a border crowd in Texas today that he had addressed the border security concerns of Republicans, and now was calling on GOP lawmakers to support his push to grant legal status to the nation’s estimated 12 million illegal aliens. Obama made his remarks in El Paso, which is just across the border from Juarez, one of the most violent cities in Mexico.

“So, we have gone above and beyond what was requested by the very Republicans who said they supported broader reform as long as we got serious about enforcement,” Obama said to a supportive crowd. “But even though we’ve answered these concerns, I suspect there will be those who will try to move the goal posts one more time.”

“They’ll say we need to triple the border patrol,” said the president. “Or quadruple the border patrol. They’ll say we need a higher fence to support reform. Maybe they’ll say we need a moat. Or alligators in the moat.”

The president offered essentially the same proposal that was considered by Congress in 2005 and 2007.

“The question is whether those in Congress who previously walked away in the name of enforcement are now ready to come back to the table and finish the work we’ve started,” he said. “We have to put the politics aside.”

At one point in the speech, Obama said, “They wanted a fence,” which prompted boos from the crowd before he said, “Well, that fence is now basically complete.”

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Slavery was once legal....


You made some good points even though I disagree with a few but this one makes zero sense in this instance.

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You made some good points even though I disagree with a few but this one makes zero sense in this instance.

Someone said we should keep the "illegals" out because it's the law. My response was that just because something is the law doesn't mean that it's right. the law use to say that owning slaves was okay. I think we all agree that in that case the law was wrong. Perhaps it's wrong in this case as well.
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Slavery was once legal....
Free labor...

Midspin, I deal with people who are illegally on my job, and not just Latinos. Russians, Africans, Middle Easterners, and the prevalant attitude is "I don't give a f***k!", many will scam, and steal, and make it harder for the people of said ethnicities. I've had a Guatamalan tell me that this is the United States of Amercas (emphasis on the s), many, due to being here illegally, drive w/o licenese, or insurance, and then drive drunk...and when they hit your car, they claim that they didn't know or it wasn't them...sure many come to work here, but it is how they got here...And people who usually break the law, think that they can break other laws---the hand in the cookie jar syndrome...
And don't let it be a West African, ohhhh, you want to talk about crafty...they know more about your own business and how to run it, without the MBA, and give them enough room, they become you, and you are none the wiser...until he hits someone-and he is drivinga expensive car in your name, that you bought, yet he is illegal and has been in and out of the country on various different issues. 


the solution is to take the hard ass road, and say "you have to go", and enforce it. Enforce it also by giving huge fines to companies and corporations who hire illegal immigrants...fines so big that said companies wouldn't want to even think about hiring a illegal immigrant, or they might risk going out of business.

Because bottom line, it's about exploitation-companies are exploiting the illegal immigrants, and  in return they are exploiting the American people...
 

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Just because something is the "law" doesn't mean shit.  Getting head is still illegal in some states...

Proof that having an MBA and being a millionaire doesn't prevent you from making stupid statements. Tu eres un idiota. Afuera con las ilegales cucarachas y gusanos.


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Hey mindspin - what if I show up with my crew to your place with my ak's, ar's, shotguns, glocks, etc and steal all your shit? 

Hey its techincally illegal, but so what according to you right? 

GMAFB - enough is enough with this crap.   Amazing too how liberal socialist blacks like andre, Mal, Benny, Blacken, and others dont see the connection between near record levels of unemployment for black men and illegal immigration.  Same for idiot teens who cant find work. 


     

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Hey mindspin - what if I show up with my crew to your place with my ak's, ar's, shotguns, glocks, etc and steal all your shit? 

Hey its techincally illegal, but so what according to you right? 


I tell you. That is the garbage propaganda of La Raza and other associations pushing for open borders. Comparing slavery laws from 200 years ago to illegal immigration laws in present day. Are you kidding me? That is like gays comparing their push for same sex marriages to the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s. Unbelievable what passes through the minds of these people. And the sad thing is they actually believe there is logic to those notions.

What are they going to say next? "Well, native americans were here first. Oh and Mexicans had these lands at one time, they are just taking back what is theirs." LOL!!!  Yeah, every other nation in the planet enforces their borders. Ask a Guatemalan about how difficult it was to get through Mexico. Look at the stats of how each nation treats and has absolutely no problems with kicking out illegals. But, somehow, it has to be different with the USA. Somehow there should be open borders for the USA. Hell with that. They need to wait on line like everyone else.

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This is why I have ZZZZEEEERRRROOOOOOO sympathy for left wing socialist minorities who complain about jobs, etc.  They support this illegal alien crappola and the politicians like obama who promise this chaos.  so fuck em as far as I am concerned. 

I'm not kidding, if liberal minorities and other idiots are so stupid and uninformed to support the very things that are destroying their ability to get jobs, and be told of it time and time again, am I supposed to feel bad about it? 

Importing millions of low skilled illegals from mexico directly hurts blacks and teens looking for entry level work, yet these same groups will support a communist agitator and grifter like obama in this.   Freaking idiots.   They deserve what they vote for.   

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Obama also lied his ass off about the Fence, which is only about 40% complete and lacks further funding. 


Screw him.   His good feelings over OBL are now gone.   


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He is playing with stats. Sure, most of the fence that was authorized to be built has been completed. But, that fence did not cover the entire border. He is right based on what congress had ordered to be built, but where he falters is implying that the border is secured. The border is not secured because the fence is not along the entire border and the amounts of agents on that border is still not enough.

Look what ABC states:
1)      “They wanted a fence,” the president said. “Well, that fence is now basically complete.”

The president is referring to the fact that 649 miles of fencing have been completed out of 652 miles of fencing mandated by Congress. (Out of 1,969 miles of border with Mexico.) That is factually correct, according to a February 2011 study of the border by the Government Accountability Office.

But that standard ignores calls some on the border have made for the fence to be made more impenetrable. Some have called for “double-fencing”; only approximately 30 miles of fence are so reinforced, in San Diego, California and Yuma, Arizona.

More to the point, the border remains quite porous.

The Border Patrol, per the GAO study, has achieved “varying levels of operational control for 873 of the nearly 2,000 southwest border miles at the end of fiscal year 2010…GAO’s preliminary analysis of the 873 border miles under operational control in 2010 showed that about 129 miles (15 percent) were classified as ‘controlled’ and the remaining 85 percent were classified as ‘managed.’”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/from-the-fact-check-desk-president-obamas-speech-on-immigration-reform-.html