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Obama Mocks Border Enforcement: "They'll Need A Moat" With Alligators
Real Clear Politics via Drudge ^ | 5/10/2011


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President Obama says Republicans will "never be satisfied" by the amount of border protection he has ordered.


"Even though we've answered these concerns, I've got to say i suspect there's still some who are trying to move the goal posts on us one more time. You know, they said 'we needed to triple the border patrol.' Well, now they're going to say we need to quadruple the border patrol, or they'll want a higher fence. Maybe they'll need a moat. Maybe they'll want alligators in the moat. They'll never be satisfied.


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Lol...that's fucking hilarious.  That's the kind of shit that makes me like Obama.
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So instead of addressing the problem, throw jabs at the opposition? All we have are politicians now, not leaders, a sad day indeed
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What problem?  I'm all for opening the borders.  This country was built on immigrants.
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What problem?  I'm all for opening the borders.  This country was built on immigrants.

 ::)  ::)  ::)


Yeah, cause we dont have enough unemployment and low skilled labor already depressing wages and savaging the taxpayers.   

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Like I said - Obama's base


95% ers like Mal, Benny, Blacken, Andre eho will vote for obama based on racial allegiance.

Gays like Bay, Chad,

Govt employees and union hacks belonging to ACORN, NEA, SEIU, AFL, etc.   

EnviroNazis like KC

Guilt Ridden white dweebs like straw, TA, etc,

Racist hispanics like those wedded to the ideas of La Raza, AZTLAN, who advocate la conquista, etc.


 

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What problem?  I'm all for opening the borders.  This country was built on immigrants.

No we have no problem with illegal immigrants do we ::) Lets just let anyone in
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No we have no problem with illegal immigrants do we ::) Lets just let anyone in

Why shouldn't we?  As long as they are working, paying taxes and contributing to society, what's the problem?
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Hey mindspin go check out my BATF thread and get back to me.   

What a joke.  This admn is TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE and you think the answer is letting more of these animals in over the border? 

Unfucking real.   


 

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Like I said - Obama's base


95% ers like Mal, Benny, Blacken, Andre eho will vote for obama based on racial allegiance.

Gays like Bay, Chad,

Govt employees and union hacks belonging to ACORN, NEA, SEIU, AFL, etc.  

EnviroNazis like KC

Guilt Ridden white dweebs like straw, TA, etc,

Racist hispanics like those wedded to the ideas of La Raza, AZTLAN, who advocate la conquista, etc.


 


How about South Americans who came to this country with nothing and now are millionaires who have an under grad from Pepperdine and an MBA from Berkley and who run legitimate businesses that provide work and contribute to society?  I fall into that group and I support Obama...
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Why shouldn't we?  As long as they are working, paying taxes and contributing to society, what's the problem?


 ::)  ::)  ::)

Because more of them are on welfare and bleeding the system dry and we dont need any more low skilled labor.   1 Million applied for 60,000 Micky D's jobs.  doesnt that tell you anything?  Probably not.

We dont need anymore low skilled labor depressing wages and the job base.  We need to send the low skilled home and seal the border shut, send the criminals home, and import Europeans and Asians with $ $ $ $  who want to start businesses and invest in the country, not bleed it dry like the leeches from south of the border.            

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Hey mindspin go check out my BATF thread and get back to me.  

What a joke.  This admn is TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE and you think the answer is letting more of these animals in over the border?  

Unfucking real.  


  


LOL.  Animals?  I have a Mexican client (true story) that came into this country illegally.  He now runs a $50 million company that employees over 300 people.  The guy worked like a madman to get to where he is today.
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How about South Americans who came to this country with nothing and now are millionaires who have an under grad from Pepperdine and an MBA from Berkley and who run legitimate businesses that provide work and contribute to society?  I fall into that group and I support Obama...

 ::)  ::)

Yeah, cause we should make laws based on .000001% of the those people.   Got it.   

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 ::)  ::)  ::)

Because more of them are on welfare and bleeding the system dry and we dont need any more low skilled labor.   1 Million applied for 60,000 Micky D's jobs.  doesnt that tell you anything?  Probably not.

We dont need anymore low skilled labor depressing wages and the job base.  We need to send the low skilled home and seal the border shut, send the criminals home, and import Europeans and Asians with $ $ $ $  who want to start businesses and invest in the country, not bleed it dry like the leeches from south of the border.            

I agree on the whole welfare issue.  But that has nothing to do with illegal immigrants.  It has everything to do with a broken system that allows lazy people (illegal or not) to live off our taxes.
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LOL.  Animals?  I have a Mexican client (true story) that came into this country illegally.  He now runs a $50 million company that employees over 300 people.  The guy worked like a madman to get to where he is today.

Yeah, and for every story like that - we have 10,000 pedophiles, sex crimes, dwi deaths, id fraud, hit and run accidents, welfare fraud, food stamp fraud, gang rapes, home invasions, etc.  

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::)  ::)

Yeah, cause we should make laws based on .000001% of the those people.   Got it.    

Please ::)  Do your research.  And by that, I don't mean listen to Rush or Hannity...
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Please ::)  Do your research.  And by that, I don't mean listen to Rush or Hannity...

All the stats show that immigrants from south of the border are more likely to be on welfare than even home grown people.   Ill post it later and have posted it hear before.   

Funny too - Mexico or any of the other countries where these people are coming from does not permit the same chaos in their countries the open borders crowd here advocates.   


Go figure.   

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Illegal Immigration Facts & Statistics
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"In October 2008, the illegal immigrant population stood at 11.9 million according to the Pew Hispanic Center."
(NumbersUSA).



"The U.S. Census Bureau showed that the nation's immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached nearly 38 million in March 2007, one-third of which are comprised of illegal immigrants."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"If immigration continues at current levels, the nation's population will increase from 301 million today to 468 million in 2060 - a 167 million, or 56% increase.
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"There are approximately 7.7 million illegal aliens employed in U.S. jobs in 2008."
(NumbersUSA).



"A 1997 study by the American Academy of Sciences found that the cheap labor of illegal immigrants and poor immigrants caused a 44% decrease in wages among the poorest Americans from 1980 to 1994."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"Amnesty for illegal immigrants will cause costs to increase significantly from $10.4 billion a year to $28.8 billion. This is because an amnesty program would transform an illegal immigrant to an "unskilled immigrant with legal status" who could access various government programs. However, due to low income, these "unskilled immigrants with legal status" would likely make very modest tax payments."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"Tax payments in illegal households are only 28% of other households primarily due to much lower levels in education, which subsequently results in low incomes and even lower tax payments."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"A strategy of attrition through enforcement, which includes mandatory workplace verification and measures to curb misuse of Social Security numbers, could reduce the illegal population by as many as 1.5 million illegal immigrants each year."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"In 2007, E-Verify, a system to determine legal employment eligibility, received about 3 million queries, of which 157,000 were found to be unauthorized to work despite having previously evaded the paper version of the I-9 process, thus stopping their illegal employment."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



" Illegal immigrants collectively represent a group that is a significant menace to the public. 80% have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations, and 40% have violent crime histories."
(Center for Immigration Studies).


"25-50% of all gangsters arrested in the criminal gang suppression efforts in northern and western Virginia are estimated to be illegal immigrants."
(Study for Immigration Studies).



"Gang investigators in Virginia estimate that 90% of the members of MS-13, the most notorious immigrant gang, are illegal immigrants."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"The defeat of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act of 2007 prevented the legalization of some 60,000 illegal immigrants, by providing them in-state college tuition and other education and government benefits not available to legal immigrants or citizens."
(Center for Immigration Studies).



"The DREAM Act also would have set in motion a process for potentially amnestying 2.1 million illegal immigrants, not counting the 1.4 million parents and siblings who would also likely have been legalized."
(Center for Immigration Studies).


Please note:
Each bullet point has a link to where the statistic could be found. For overall citation of the issue of Illegal Immigration in accordance to NumbersUSA, refer to

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/issues/illegal-immigration.html




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How about South Americans who came to this country with nothing and now are millionaires who have an under grad from Pepperdine and an MBA from Berkley and who run legitimate businesses that provide work and contribute to society?  I fall into that group and I support Obama...

Berklee College of Music? didn't know they did MBAs.

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Most of those stats are in fact true.  There are that many Hispanics.  And they do work on lower wages.  And that does result in a decrease in wages for Americans.  Guess what?  That's a fucking GREAT thing!  I don't want to pay $20 for a bag of strawberries.  I don't want to pay more than $200 for my gardner.  They are willing to work more for less.  And I benefit from that.

Now, you do have some outlandish stats on there that might work on some rightwing retard redneck that hates Mexicans, but all you have to do is read closely to realize that it's just a bunch of sensationalistic bullshit.  Let's examine your stat in big bold red letters.

"Illegal immigrants collectively represent a group that is a significant menace to the public. 80% have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations, and 40% have violent crime histories."
(Center for Immigration Studies).

Hmmm, the "Center for Immigration Studies".  Sounds legit doesn't it?  Too bad that EVERYTHING they publish is geared toward  Immigration reduction in the United States.  And they're executive director, is none other than Mark Krikorian.   This is another racist right wing organization that produces mountains of facts based bullshit.  Is this really who you are using as your source of info?  No wonder you're so fired up.

But let's look closer at that stat: "...80% have committed serious crimes in addition to immigration violations".  LOL!!!  Serious crimes AND immigration violations?  How about we look at each independently?  I would imagine that 100% have committed immigration violations since they are here illegally ::)  Let's see, 40% have Violent Crime Histories?  Really?  40%?  Please do show me that study.  I want to read it.
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Oh brother...more scare tactics.  Low wage workers strengthen our country.  Why should I be forced to pay someone $15/hr when another person is willing to do it for $5/hr?  Or, why should you have to pay $20 for a jar of jelly, when it could be made available for half that amount?  These are rhetorical questions...don't bother copying and posting another page full of nonsense. 
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Why shouldn't we?  As long as they are working, paying taxes and contributing to society, what's the problem?

As long as it is done legally, nothing. If done illegally, well then its illegal, whats the point of having laws if they aren't enforced?
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Because those who are here LEGALLY can't compete w illegals.  And once you make the current crop of illegals legal, a new crop and flod of illegals will flood the nation. 

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Because those who are here LEGALLY can't compete w illegals.  And once you make the current crop of illegals legal, a new crop and flod of illegals will flood the nation. 

would you vote for any republican in the primary who has said they would support Amnesty?