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Israel In A Post-American Era
« on: May 21, 2011, 01:18:23 PM »
Israel In A Post-American Era

Written by: Patrick J Buchanan

In 1918, the United States proved militarily decisive in the defeat of the Kaiser’s Germany and emerged as first power on earth.

World War II, ending in 1945, produced two truly victorious nations, the Soviet Union of Joseph Stalin and the America of Harry Truman.

Out of the Cold War that lasted from Truman to the disintegration of the Soviet Empire and breakup of the Soviet Union at the end of Ronald Reagan’s term came a lone victor: the last superpower, the United States.

Who emerged triumphant from the post-Cold War era, 1991-2011?

Indisputably, it is China, whose 10-12 percent annual growth vaulted her past Italy, France, Britain, Germany and Japan to become the world’s second largest economy and America’s lone rival for first manufacturing power.

If we use a metric called “purchasing power parity,” China overtakes America in 2016. Says the International Monetary Fund, the American era is over.

Strategically, too, the United States seems in retreat, nowhere more so than in that region that was the focus of George W. Bush’s “global democratic revolution.” And no nation reflects more the relative loss of U.S. power and influence than does Israel, whose isolation is today unprecedented.

A decade ago, Turkey, a NATO ally of 50 years, was a quiet friend and partner to Israel. Today, the Palestinians in Gaza view the Turks as among their staunchest friends in the Middle East.

President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt scrupulously adhered to the terms of his predecessor’s peace treaty with Israel and maintained the western end of the Israeli blockade of Gaza.

Since he fell, the interim Egyptian regime has midwifed a unity government of Fatah and Hamas, moved to establish diplomatic relations with Tehran for the first time since the fall of the Shah and begun to lift the Gaza blockade. September’s elections are almost guaranteed to deliver to parliament a huge if not controlling bloc from the Muslim Brotherhood.

While the Brotherhood appears to be the strongest party in Egypt, it has held back from openly seeking the presidency or absolute power in the legislature. It appears to be playing a waiting game. After them, us.

Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian leader who had looked to President Obama to bring a halt to new Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem and preside over peace talks, appears to have given up on the Americans.

Though the beneficiary of hundreds of millions in U.S. aid, he has entered a coalition with his old enemy Hamas, and together — if they can stay together — they plan to seek recognition of an independent Palestine by vote of the U.N. General Assembly in September.

The likelihood is that the overwhelming majority, including many of America’s allies, will vote to recognize Palestine and seat it in the General Assembly, where it can make demands on Israel, backed by U.N. sanctions, to terminate its occupation and vacate its national territory.

The General Assembly resolution will set as the borders of Palestine those that existed between 1948 and 1967. But, today, beyond those borders live no fewer than 500,000 Israeli Jews.

While the United States vetoed a recent Security Council resolution condemning Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s continued expansion of settlements, we have no veto in the General Assembly. If Obama opposes the U.N. resolution, we and Israel will stand virtually alone.


Nor are these the only crises Israel confronts.

To Israel’s north is Hezbollah, which has become the dominant force in Lebanon. To the south is Gaza, dominated by Hamas, which has never accepted Israel’s existence. Israel has fought wars with both.

To the east is the West Bank, where the Palestinian Authority appears to have given up on U.S.-sponsored peace talks. Beyond lies Jordan, whose King Abdullah rules over millions of Palestinians, who is under pressure to take a tougher stand against Israel and who has no love for Bibi Netanyahu.

And what happened Sunday on the 63rd anniversary of Israel’s independence and the Palestinian “nakba,” or “catastrophe,” where 700,000 fled or were driven into exile, is perhaps the most ominous portent of all.

Palestinian protesters approached the fence separating Lebanon and Israel and climbed the fence on the Israeli-occupied Golan heights to come and reclaim Palestinian lands. Fifteen to 20 were shot to death and scores were wounded by Israeli troops.

Though the White House backed Israel, across Europe what Israel did to these protesters seemed exactly what the king of Bahrain and the president of Yemen had done to theirs.


Given the coordination of the Palestinian actions, we may be on the verge either of a Facebook revolution or a “third intifada,” an uprising by Palestinians in Israel, the occupied territories, and Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt, where hundreds of thousands of descendants of the original exiles still live.

Such an uprising would divert the attention of Arab peoples from the failures of their own regimes and isolate Israel and her principal — indeed, only — ally, the United States, as they have never been before in the Arab world.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2011, 02:08:46 PM »
What does the average American get out of the Israeli relationship?

They are given billions, support for Israel was a major motivator for 9/11 and will be for future attacks, it's only America that stands by Israel.

Jewish influence in the political arena in America is obvious, the senators that are Jewish themselves and the big donors that exist for both parties, the sizable Jewish population in Florida, which is a key state in Presidential elections and one of the biggest factors of course, the evangelical Christians, who should hopefully all be dead soon with the rapture.

You get some dumb fucks going on about having to be seen to be tough on the Muslims but the average American gets nothing out of the relationship other than making itself a terrorist target.

Hope this all helps.

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2011, 02:35:08 PM »
What does the average American get out of the Israeli relationship?

They are given billions, support for Israel was a major motivator for 9/11 and will be for future attacks, it's only America that stands by Israel.

Jewish influence in the political arena in America is obvious, the senators that are Jewish themselves and the big donors that exist for both parties, the sizable Jewish population in Florida, which is a key state in Presidential elections and one of the biggest factors of course, the evangelical Christians, who should hopefully all be dead soon with the rapture.

You get some dumb fucks going on about having to be seen to be tough on the Muslims but the average American gets nothing out of the relationship other than making itself a terrorist target.

Hope this all helps.

What does the Average American get out of American foreign policy in general, fighting wars ever since WW2? Not much and less than that.
I hate the State.

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2011, 02:37:50 PM »
Jews/Israelis = civilized people
Muslims/Arabs = savages

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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2011, 02:40:58 PM »
Jews/Israelis = civilized people
Muslims/Arabs = savages

Exactly - it will be a long battle but someday the savages will be driven into the sea.
Kill/Supress them all or pack your bags and isolate the region and let them tear apart each other. I would opt for number two, but the unluckily western world involved itself too much in this matter.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 02:50:56 PM »
Exactly - it will be a long battle but someday the savages will be driven into the sea.
Kill/Supress them all or pack your bags and isolate the region and let them tear apart each other. I would opt for number two, but the unluckily western world involved itself too much in this matter.

It truly scares me the extent to which the world sympathizes with these cave dwelling stone chuckers.

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2011, 02:54:30 PM »
Palestinians have 24 Arab states that were all created about the same time. Israel has none. In 1967 the total length of Israel was only 9 miles....and now the Palestinians want more even though Israel kicked their ass in war. Anyone who is for a Palestinian occupation is not only a terrorist sympathizer but a traitor. Whats the penalty for treason again? Mr. Obama?    

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2011, 03:00:09 PM »
israel is america,, christians are jews...this is as simple as that,,thats why the 2 are so close,,jesus of nazareth is jew,,his mom is jew ...and ....his dada is ummm 

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who chose the jews to be his people,, why? because jesus is jew!

americana and isreal are one in the same,,practicaly the 51 state of americana,,any isreal citizen can get green card and do get green card in americana in record time,, citizenship too

gh15 approved
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2011, 03:03:06 PM »
It truly scares me the extent to which the world sympathizes with these cave dwelling stone chuckers.

Nobody sympathizes with them - folks are shitting themselves and try to keep it nice in case shit hits the fan. The general public hates them.
Right wingers seize the moment and are now in a boat with Israel against the müsleems. My vote goes to them though it's a bad solution.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 03:09:00 PM »
Nobody sympathizes with them - folks are shitting themselves and try to keep it nice in case shit hits the fan. The general hates them.
Right wingers seize the moment and are now in a boat with Israel against the müsleems. My vote goes to them though it's a bad solution.


Ich stimme dir zu, sofern ich der Meinung bin, dass der Westen sich gut taete, sich aus den dortigen Angelegenheiten herauszuhalten.

Alle westlichen Laender, allen voran, die USA, haben binnenlaendische Probleme zu Hauf, und brauchen sich deswegen in solche auslaendischen Anliegen gar nicht einzumischen.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2011, 03:11:27 PM »
Nobody sympathizes with them - folks are shitting themselves and try to keep it nice in case shit hits the fan. The general public hates them.
Right wingers seize the moment and are now in a boat with Israel against the müsleems. My vote goes to them though it's a bad solution.


And yet by the time this thread would go five pages, someone will get on here and spin the history to say that Israel has somehow victimized the palestinians.

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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2011, 03:12:33 PM »
israel is america,, christians are jews...this is as simple as that,,thats why the 2 are so close,,jesus of nazareth is jew,,his mom is jew ...and ....his dada is ummm  

god

who chose the jews to be his people,, why? because jesus is jew!

americana and isreal are one in the same,,practicaly the 51 state of americana,,any isreal citizen can get green card and do get green card in americana in record time,, citizenship too

gh15 approved

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2011, 03:13:31 PM »
It truly scares me the extent to which the world sympathizes with these cave dwelling stone chuckers.

Yes its amazing how the rest of the world is in the corner of the person throwing the rock at advanced military hardware.

Truly baffling  ::)

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 03:15:01 PM »
And the problem with Israeli's getting green cards is what? You won't find many jews scrubbing shithouses...they might be fixing your heart or giving your wife a new set of tits. They're the kind of immigrants we need.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 03:18:31 PM »
Ich stimme dir zu, sofern ich der Meinung bin, dass der Westen sich gut taete, sich aus den dortigen Angelegenheiten herauszuhalten.

Alle westlichen Laender, allen voran, die USA, haben binnenlaendische Probleme zu Hauf, und brauchen sich deswegen in solche auslaendischen Anliegen gar nicht einzumischen.

100% richtig - aber "unsre" Deppen wollen halt Land gewinnen - auf Kosten unsrer Gesellschaft.
USA erfindet 1001 Vorwand um irgendwo einzugreifen, Basen zu errichten und einen neuen Standort sein eigen zu nennen - nur geht das net so wie die sichs erwarten.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 04:11:53 PM »
What does the average American get out of the Israeli relationship?

They are given billions, support for Israel was a major motivator for 9/11 and will be for future attacks, it's only America that stands by Israel.

Jewish influence in the political arena in America is obvious, the senators that are Jewish themselves and the big donors that exist for both parties, the sizable Jewish population in Florida, which is a key state in Presidential elections and one of the biggest factors of course, the evangelical Christians, who should hopefully all be dead soon with the rapture.

You get some dumb fucks going on about having to be seen to be tough on the Muslims but the average American gets nothing out of the relationship other than making itself a terrorist target.

Hope this all helps.

spot on post!

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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2011, 04:13:42 PM »
israel is america,, christians are jews...this is as simple as that,,thats why the 2 are so close,,jesus of nazareth is jew,,his mom is jew ...and ....his dada is ummm 

god

who chose the jews to be his people,, why? because jesus is jew!

americana and isreal are one in the same,,practicaly the 51 state of americana,,any isreal citizen can get green card and do get green card in americana in record time,, citizenship too

gh15 approved

gh15 you are so wrong, any christian should be ashamed to be labeled a jew as well, a jew is something you cannot rid yourself of, please do not slander christians like that again.  Israel is a welfare state the US supports.  It always has been and will be until we cut them off, then they will deteriorate into nothing.


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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2011, 04:15:13 PM »
gh15, basing you post on bible stories gives no credibility to your sayings.  The bible is not fact, it is just a book with stories in it.

If people understood the jews where hated across Europe for a reason, many criminal activities leading to a diaspora of their population over the world.  Then germany came along and wanted to finish the job, then america and europe basically saved them from becoming ash, then gave them a state and called it Israel, they didn't earn it, they didn't do anything for it, it is a pure pity state, and welfare state that US supports.

It's sad when the media is controlled by them and they have weaseled their ways into american entertainment, so they can brainwash the population into thinking how they would like to be perceived, the victims, it's always they are the victims.  So many people are afraid to speak the truth or they would lose their job to the jewish ceo that has gotten in thru zionism, the time will come all, the time will come, Obama is just starting to fix the problem.


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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2011, 04:49:38 PM »
gh15 you are so wrong, any christian should be ashamed to be labeled a jew as well, a jew is something you cannot rid yourself of, please do not slander christians like that again.  Israel is a welfare state the US supports.  It always has been and will be until we cut them off, then they will deteriorate into nothing.



Read this and educate yourself....for once then pass it on to Benny, he's just as uneducated.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/roots_of_US-Israel.html



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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2011, 04:52:40 PM »
Read this and educate yourself....for once then pass it on to Benny, he's just as uneducated.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/roots_of_US-Israel.html




sorry I don't trust clicking on a link that is biased already by the name and second will probably have virus to steal my credit card data being that it is jewish site.  copy and paste text.


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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2011, 04:55:42 PM »
gh15 you are so wrong, any christian should be ashamed to be labeled a jew as well, a jew is something you cannot rid yourself of, please do not slander christians like that again.  Israel is a welfare state the US supports.  It always has been and will be until we cut them off, then they will deteriorate into nothing.


Israel a welfare state... bro the Jews run the show all over the world plain and simple. Israel will never deteriorate into nothing. Its the most conquered land in all of history. the most wanted land by many nations and at the end of the day the Jews own it against unimaginable odds. You're right Christians aren't jews but the old testament and Jesus were Jewish, a big part of Christianity

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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2011, 04:57:06 PM »
Today, the United States and Israel are the closest of friends and allies. During more than four decades of state-building, Israelis have looked to the United States for inspiration, financial and military assistance, and diplomatic support. Americans, in turn, have viewed Israel with a special appreciation for its successful effort to follow the Western democratic tradition, its remarkable economic development, and its determined struggle against its uncompromising enemies.

This mutual admiration is hardly a recent phenomenon. The profound influence of Jewish tradition on the Founding Fathers can be seen in the American Constitution. Such influence should come as no surprise given John Adams' view expressed in a letter to Thomas Jefferson: "I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize man than any other nation."

According to Woodrow Wilson, the ancient Jewish nation provided a model for the American colonists:

    Recalling the previous experiences of the colonists in applying the Mosaic Code to the order of their internal life, it is not to be wondered at that the various passages in the Bible that serve to undermine royal authority, stripping the Crown of its cloak of divinity, held up before the pioneer Americans the Hebrew Commonwealth as a model government. In the spirit and essence of our Constitution, the influence of the Hebrew Commonwealth was paramount in that it was not only the highest authority for the principle, "that rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God," but also because it was in itself a divine precedent for a pure democracy, as distinguished from monarchy, aristocracy or any other form of government.

Jews also contributed directly to the revolution. President Calvin Coolidge paid tribute to their role in the War of Independence:

    The Jews themselves, of whom a considerable number were already scattered throughout the colonies, were true to the teachings of their prophets. The Jewish faith is predominantly the faith of liberty.

One original design for the official Seal for the United States submitted by Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams depicted the Israelites crossing the Red Sea with Pharaoh in pursuit and Moses standing on the other side. The motto was to have been: "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God." Another seal was chosen, but the Liberty Bell does bear an inscription from the Old Testament: "And Proclaim Freedom Throughout The Land Unto All the Inhabitants Thereof" (Leviticus 25:10).

Although it took 2,000 years to resurrect Hebrew as a spoken language in the early twentieth century in Palestine, Hebrew was a prerequisite for early American scholars. Many universities required it in their curriculum. Hebrew was compulsory at Harvard until 1787. To this day, Yale's insignia has the words Urim V'Thummim (oracle learning).
America's Support for Zionism

American support for the age-old aspirations of the Jewish people to return to their homeland dates from the Colonial period when John Adams wrote: "I really wish the Jews again in Judea an independent nation for, as I believe, the most enlightened men of it have participated in the amelioration of the philosophy of the age." John Quincy Adams wrote to Major Mordecai Manuel Noah that he believed in the "rebuilding of Judea as an independent nation."

Not long after the Emancipation Proclamation, President Abraham Lincoln met a Canadian Christian Zionist, Henry Wentworth Monk, who expressed hope that Jews who were suffering oppression in Russia and Turkey be emancipated "by restoring them to their national home in Palestine." Lincoln said this was "a noble dream and one shared by many Americans." The President said his chiropodist was a Jew who "has so many times ‘put me upon my feet’ that I would have no objection to giving his countrymen ‘a leg up.’"

In 1883, Emma Lazarus, the poet whose words are inscribed on the Statue of Liberty, wrote that Palestine should be as "a Home for the Homeless, a Goal for the Wanderer and an Asylum for the persecuted and a nation of the denationalized."

In 1891, pogroms incited by Czar Alexander III provoked an outcry by many prominent Americans, including the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and Speaker of the House. Rev. William E. Blackstone and Cardinal Gibbons presented a petition signed by those who were concerned about the fate of the Jews in Russia to President Benjamin Harrison and Secretary of State James Blaine. They called for the first international conference "to consider the Israelite claim to Palestine as their ancient home, and to promote in any other just and proper way the alleviation of their suffering condition."

Why not give Palestine back to the Jews again? According to God's distribution of nations, it is their home—an inalienable possession from which they were expelled by force. Under their cultivation was a remarkable fruitful land, sustaining millions of Israelites, who industrially tilled its hillsides and valleys. They were agriculturists and producers...the center of civilization and religion.

We believe this is an appropriate time for all nations, and especially the Christian nations of Europe, to show kindness to Israel...let us now restore to them the land of which they were so cruelly despoiled by our Roman ancestors.

The signatories' idea preceded the first World Zionist Congress that adopted the program to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine by six years.
Endorsing The Balfour Declaration

In 1917, Lord Balfour sent a letter to Lord Rothschild, president of the British Zionist Federation, stating that the British Government would facilitate the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. President Wilson expressed his support for the Balfour Declaration when he stated on March 3, 1919:

    The allied nations with the fullest concurrence of our government and people are agreed that in Palestine shall be laid the foundations of a Jewish Commonwealth.

After Wilson left office, his successors expressed similar support for the Zionist enterprise. "It is impossible for one who has studied at all the services of the Hebrew people to avoid the faith that they will one day be restored to their historic national home and there enter on a new and yet greater phase of their contribution to the advance of humanity," said President Warren Harding.

Calvin Coolidge expressed his "sympathy with the deep and intense longing which finds such fine expression in the Jewish National Homeland in Palestine."

"Palestine which, desolate for centuries, is now renewing its youth and vitality through enthusiasm, hard work, and self-sacrifice of the Jewish pioneers who toil there in a spirit of peace and social justice," observed Herbert Hoover.

Congress was no less sympathetic to the Zionist objective. One can look back to the joint Congressional resolutions of 1922 and 1944 that unanimously passed an endorsement of the Balfour Declaration. The House Foreign Affairs Committee stated in 1922:

    The Jews of America are profoundly interested in establishing a National Home in the ancient land for their race. Indeed, this is the ideal of the Jewish people, everywhere, for, despite their dispersion, Palestine has been the object of their veneration since they were expelled by the Romans. For generations they have prayed for the return to Zion. During the past century this prayer has assumed practical form.

Legislatures in 33 states, representing 85 percent of the population, also adopted resolutions favoring the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine. Governors of 37 states, 54 United States senators, and 250 congressmen signed petitions to the President.
The Campaign for Partition

In early 1947, the British, who then administered a League of Nations mandate for Palestine, decided to bring the question of how to resolve the dispute between Arabs and Jews to the United Nations. The General Assembly decided to set up the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) to investigate the cause of the conflict in Palestine, and, if possible, devise a solution.

The UNSCOP, composed of representatives from 11 nations, visited Palestine and found the Jewish community very responsive to its inquiries. The Arabs in Palestine greeted the UNSCOP with hostility and refused to cooperate. The Arab Higher Committee boycotted the Commission but demanded that the UN immediately grant Palestine its independence. As one author observed, the contrasting attitudes of Jews and Arabs toward the UNSCOP "could not fail to give the impression that the Jews were imbued with the sense of right and were prepared to plead their case before any unbiased tribunal, while the Arabs felt unsure of the justice of their cause, or were afraid to bow to the judgement of the nations."

One UNSCOP aide was particularly influential, an American named Ralph Bunche. Later Bunche would play a key role in negotiating armistice agreements between Israel and its neighbors following the War of Independence. In 1947, Bunche set up a meeting between two members of the UNSCOP and Menachem Begin, the leader of the Irgun Jewish underground. As he was leaving Begin's hideout, Bunche told the future Israeli Prime Minister: "I can understand you. I am also a member of a persecuted minority." Richard Crossman of Britain asked Bunche if his exposure to the Jews had made him anti-Semitic "yet." Bunche answered: "That would be impossible....I know the flavor of racial prejudice and racial persecution. A wise Negro can never be an anti-Semite."

The majority of the UNSCOP concluded after its investigation that the question of ownership or right to Palestine was an insoluble antinomy. Rather than try to solve it, they chose the logical alternative of partition, in which both Jews and Arabs would be given sovereignty in their own separate state.

The United States endorsed the majority report and called on the General Assembly to approve partition. Some dispute exists among scholars as to how vigorously the Truman Administration lobbied for the resolution. Nevertheless, ample evidence exists to indicate that U.S. influence played a critical role in securing the adoption of the partition resolution.
President Truman with David Ben-Gurion and Abba Eban

Less than six months later, Israel declared its independence and the United States was the first nation to grant de facto recognition to the new Jewish State—11 minutes after the proclamation. "I had faith in Israel before it was established, I have faith in it now," Truman said May 26, 1952. "I believe it has a glorious future before it—not just another sovereign nation, but as an embodiment of the great ideals of our civilization."
A Historical Commitment to Israel

The recognition of shared values has been a consistent theme in statements by American Presidents ever since Truman. John Kennedy, for example, declared: "This nation, from the time of President Woodrow Wilson, has established and continued a tradition of friendship with Israel because we are committed to all free societies that seek a path to peace and honor individual right. In the prophetic spirit of Zionism all free men today look to a better world and in the experience of Zionism we know that it takes courage and perseverance and dedication to achieve it."

"The United States and Israel share many common objectives...chief of which is the building of a better world in which every nation can develop its resources and develop them in freedom and peace," said Lyndon Johnson.

The roots of Johnson's feelings, like those of many other Americans came from the Bible. As he explained in a speech before B'nai B'rith: "Most if not all of you have very deep ties with the land and with the people of Israel, as I do, for my Christian faith sprang from yours." The President explained that "the Bible stories are woven into my childhood memories as the gallant struggle of modern Jews to be free of persecution is also woven into our souls."

Richard Nixon asserted that the United States stands by its friends and that "Israel is one of its friends." His successor, Gerald Ford, reaffirmed his "commitment to the security and future of Israel is based upon basic morality as well as enlightened self-interest. Our role in supporting Israel honors our own heritage."

"The United States," Jimmy Carter said, "has a warm and a unique relationship of friendship with Israel that is morally right. It is compatible with our deepest religious convictions, and it is right in terms of America's own strategic interests. We are committed to Israel's security, prosperity, and future as a land that has so much to offer the world."

Ronald Reagan was the first President to state explicitly that Israel was a strategic asset to the United States, a belief he expressed even before he was elected: "Only by full appreciation of the critical role the State of Israel plays in our strategic calculus can we build the foundation for thwarting Moscow's designs on territories and resources vital to our security and our national well-being." But Reagan also understood this alliance sprang from shared values: "Since the rebirth of the State of Israel, there has been an ironclad bond between that democracy and this one."

Shortly after taking office, George Bush said: "The friendship, the alliance between the United States and Israel is strong and solid, built upon a foundation of shared democratic values, of shared history and heritage, that sustains the life of our two countries. The emotional bond of our people transcends politics. Our strategic cooperation—and I renew today our determination that that go forward—is a source of mutual security. And the United States’ commitment to the security of Israel remains unshakeable. We may differ over some policies from time to time, individual policies, but never over the principle."

President Bill Clinton has taken the relationship to another level during his administration. "Our relationship would never vary from its allegiance to the shared values, the shared religious heritage, the shared democratic politics which have made the relationship between the United States and Israel a special—even on occasion a wonderful—relationship."

The Jewish population in the United States is less than six million; therefore, the political activity of Jews who view strengthening U.S.-Israel relations to be in the national interest alone cannot explain the depth of the friendship that exists. Fewer than 3 percent of the population could hardly have such a dramatic influence on American foreign policy. The U.S.-Israel alliance is rooted in shared values.

If one were forced to reduce the explanation for the unique relationship between the United States and Israel to one sentence, it was probably best expressed by Lyndon Johnson. When Soviet Premier Aleksei Kosygin asked Johnson why the United States supports Israel when there are 80 million Arabs and only three million Israelis, the President replied simply: "Because it is right."
   


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Re: Israel In A Post-American Era
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2011, 05:04:02 PM »
What exactly is that wall of text suppose to convince me of?  That Israel was created by the US generally, US is only reason it has survived, welfare state and given weapons free, what else?  The jews in the bible were told by jesus they are suppose to be a dispersed people, spread over the world, not huddled up in one place, supported by a external military and free weapons by another nation.  Israel is going against what jesus wanted for them, if you believe the bible.  

Israel a welfare state... bro the Jews run the show all over the world plain and simple. Israel will never deteriorate into nothing. Its the most conquered land in all of history. the most wanted land by many nations and at the end of the day the Jews own it against unimaginable odds. You're right Christians aren't jews but the old testament and Jesus were Jewish, a big part of Christianity

The jews don't run shit, they use money given to them by US and use weapons given to them by US to kill innocent Palestinians who are just trying to get back land stolen from them by the Israeli's.  How can you not see this is beyond me.  I will give you this, the jews have wiggled their way into entertainment industries and others to project an image about themselves that is favorable, because they know the truth about them would lead to the very thing they are scared of the most, why, because they are guilty of everything they get accused of for the most part.

Yeah they really put up a fight for it, Germany handed them their ass, then out of pity the US and allies created Israel, and gave it to them to go huddle in so they wouldn't be annihilated. 


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Re: Israel In A Post-American Era
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2011, 05:05:27 PM »
Great info coach but you ruined the thread....ain't nobody going to read that :-\

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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2011, 05:17:14 PM »
What exactly is that wall of text suppose to convince me of?  That Israel was created by the US generally, US is only reason it has survived, welfare state and given weapons free, what else?  The jews in the bible were told by jesus they are suppose to be a dispersed people, spread over the world, not huddled up in one place, supported by a external military and free weapons by another nation.  Israel is going against what jesus wanted for them, if you believe the bible. 

The jews don't run shit, they use money given to them by US and use weapons given to them by US to kill innocent Palestinians who are just trying to get back land stolen from them by the Israeli's.  How can you not see this is beyond me.  I will give you this, the jews have wiggled their way into entertainment industries and others to project an image about themselves that is favorable, because they know the truth about them would lead to the very thing they are scared of the most, why, because they are guilty of everything they get accused of for the most part.

Yeah they really put up a fight for it, Germany handed them their ass, then out of pity the US and allies created Israel, and gave it to them to go huddle in so they wouldn't be annihilated. 


You clearly don't know your history. Israel owned the land first in the days of King Solomon. The majority of world banks are run by Jewish People. Rothschild's and Rockefeller's are Jewish and control nearly half of the worlds currency. 90% of the people who attend the Goldberg's meetings are Jews. The British royal family is Jewish.The most powerful people on the planet are Jews, how you can't see this is beyond me