tren a + winny

[geon90]

newbie here...i was thinking to take this for my first cycle ( i took winny injectable 3 months ago and worked great ). goal : get lean
any advice ?  don`t know about how much dosage to use
some info about me : 21 years ,89~~ kg , 15 16% ~~ bf
tnks

[local hero]

personaly id go test prop & tren a.... but thats me!

[geon90]

tnks for response... i`ll wait for other suggestions

[notsureifsrs]

i would first lower bf% to around 10-11% before touching any tren/test/winny
than just get on tren and test prop as said above, or run winny by itself.

[Schmoe Buster]

i would first lower bf% to around 10-11% before touching any tren/test/winny
than just get on tren and test prop as said above, or run winny by itself.

Yeah bodyfat should be under 10%, you want to be lean so all the juice gets absorbed to the muscle rather than in fat, Test Prop,Tren A and Winstrol is a good stack, i would prefer injectable winny than oral winny

[geon90]

ok so i have to wait a of months  :Dthan i`ll go for tren a +winny injectable ( + test prop )  thanks a lot for responses guys.

[Rearden Metal]

Yeah bodyfat should be under 10%, you want to be lean so all the juice gets absorbed to the muscle rather than in fat, Test Prop,Tren A and Winstrol is a good stack, i would prefer injectable winny than oral winny

Is this proven or broscience? I tend to agree but just wondering.

[Schmoe Buster]

Is this proven or broscience? I tend to agree but just wondering.

Most likely just bro science but it makes sense, give a skinny ripped guy in your gym a bottle of dbol and he will blow up lean and look pumped, give the dbol to a fat guy and he will look bloody fat

[bladerunner]

Most likely just bro science but it makes sense, give a skinny ripped guy in your gym a bottle of dbol and he will blow up lean and look pumped, give the dbol to a fat guy and he will look bloody fat

the bloofy type of guy GH15 always talks about and that you dont wanna look like

[Schmoe Buster]

the bloofy type of guy GH15 always talks about and that you dont wanna look like

Yeah exactly, a lot of these perma bulkers say stuff like Dbol,Anadrol,Test makes them bloofy well having 15% body fat dont help

[bladerunner]

Yeah exactly, a lot of these perma bulkers say stuff like Dbol,Anadrol,Test makes them bloofy well having 15% body fat dont help

perma wankers...they miss out on the great gains that those compounds can do for them if done the proper way

[Schmoe Buster]

perma wankers...they miss out on the great gains that those compounds can do for them if done the proper way

They are too insecure to diet down, they go by scale not by mirror, a true bodybuilder who is secure wont care what he weighs only what he looks like he weighs and how well shaped and muscled he is, fuck the scale

[Arnold jr]

The stack you're talking about will actually help you lose body-fat. While most all steroids help improve metabolic efficiency Tren is one of the few that effects stored body-fat on a direct level.

There's no reason you have to lose a bunch more weight before you begin the cycle, in-fact if you were one of my guys I'd smack you in the face for doing that. All you'll do is lose muscle tissue with the fat, makes a lot more sense to preserve the muscle tissue while losing the fat. As long as you're not eating more carbs than you need you won't get that "Bloofy" look the other guys are talking about.

And yes, you need to use at least a little testosterone with this stack as Tren suppresses Test to a fairly large degree.

[local hero]

perma wankers...they miss out on the great gains that those compounds can do for them if done the proper way

they will more than likely make much greater gains through eating a much larger calorie surplus, if you dont strive for higher body weights you will never improve from year to year

[trapz101]

yes,in fact how are you going to lose fat?diet??no, you lose them by using tren a.......

[DK II]

They are too insecure to diet down, they go by scale not by mirror, a true bodybuilder who is secure wont care what he weighs only what he looks like he weighs and how well shaped and muscled he is, fuck the scale

spot on.

[bladerunner]

they will more than likely make much greater gains through eating a much larger calorie surplus, if you dont strive for higher body weights you will never improve from year to year

maybe...but there are other ways to keep improving year by year without looking like a shapeless barbapapa

 

[local hero]

if you diet all year round you will more or less be the same year after year,,,, unless you take an ungodly amount of drugs

[wild willie]

if you diet all year round you will more or less be the same year after year,,,, unless you take an ungodly amount of drugs

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[local hero]

why the question mark,,, how can you go up in size with out extra cals, impossible..., and this is regarding bodybuilding, not staying toned or looking ok

as i said, you could do this and stay very lean if you ran a huge dose of growth all year round and a ton of anabolics

[abijahmaniaco]

i've read that test, tren, and winnie make the perfect stack bc it utilizes all three main steroid divisions/bases: testosterone, nandrolone, and dht. tren being nandrolone derivative; winnie being dht derivative.

btw don't run tren without test unless you're ready for a limp penis.

[geon90]

i speack with some ppl ..and all told me that tren  isn`t good for newbies .. and they recomended clen +t3 to get lean .....
my cycle for clen +t3 ..
clen :2 weeks on , 2 weeks off....till i get to 8 weeks on and 7 weeks off right ?
day1: 20mcg
day2: 40mcg
day3: 60mcg
day4: 80mcg
day5: 80mcg
day6-12: 100mcg
day13: 80 mcg
day14: 60 mcg
and for tren : i was thinking  3 weeks on  and don`t know how many off ?
25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25....
what u say about this cycle ? and how to take the pills ? tnks

[spude]

i speack with some ppl ..and all told me that tren  isn`t good for newbies .. and they recomended clen +t3 to get lean .....
my cycle for clen +t3 ..
clen :2 weeks on , 2 weeks off....till i get to 8 weeks on and 7 weeks off right ?
day1: 20mcg
day2: 40mcg
day3: 60mcg
day4: 80mcg
day5: 80mcg
day6-12: 100mcg
day13: 80 mcg
day14: 60 mcg
and for tren : i was thinking  3 weeks on  and don`t know how many off ?
25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25....
what u say about this cycle ? and how to take the pills ? tnks

i'm not really into any fatburners/stims unless absolutely necessary..and in this case they're not!
250mg test a week + 50mg tren a day for getting lean...when less than 10% bf up the test dose to 500-750mg a week, up calories by 500 a day, then just see how it goes and adjust if needed, 25mg adex a day if estro problems or 50mg masteron if wanna do it gh15 style

[geon90]

u`r  option sounds interesting. thanks for response..damn can`t decide ...
you may take in account that i lost from 120 kg to 74 ~ and  up to 92~  and now i think i am at 86 87~ . and i`m predisposed at getting fat if i take test ...hmm

[delta9mda]

Yeah bodyfat should be under 10%, you want to be lean so all the juice gets absorbed to the muscle rather than in fat, Test Prop,Tren A and Winstrol is a good stack, i would prefer injectable winny than oral winny

gear does not get absorbed into the fat.