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Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« on: June 02, 2011, 06:34:49 AM »
Obama's Cloud Economy The economy is flying without instruments because of the White House's policy choices.
By DANIEL HENNINGER


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303745304576359570364488858.html#articleTabs%3Darticle


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You just know the American economy is out there somewhere. If only someone knew which buttons to push to retrieve it from the storage cloud.

Here are three headlines that floated by on yesterday morning's screens alone:

"U.S. Manufacturing Growth Slows Substantially"

"Housing Imperils Recovery"

"Private Sector Added Few Jobs in May"

Let it be noted for the record that presidents normally do not take ownership of a weak economy. Jimmy Carter owned the 1980 election-year economy. George H.W. Bush owned the 1992 election-year economy. Both were one-term presidents. Happily for his opponents, Barack Obama has taken ownership of the 2011 economy, a full year and half before he has to face the voters. The Obama self-confidence is famously limitless.

Still, a doubter might ask if President Obama hasn't suffered his John McCain moment on the economy.

John McCain's presidential bid blew up for good when he announced in September 2008 that he was suspending his campaign and returning to Washington to address the national financial crisis. In the event, Mr. McCain had nothing to contribute, and the White House passed to Barack Obama.

Mr. Obama's McCain moment—raising expectations of economic seriousness and then dropping them over the cliff—was his hyperpartisan deficit speech at George Washington University in April.

 
Daniel Henninger says the economy is flying without instruments because of the White House's policy choices.
Podcast: Listen to the audio of Wonder Land here. The day before that speech, all Washington expected Mr. Obama to make a major policy statement about the big deficit-reduction debate then unfolding. Agree or disagree, Paul Ryan's budget released the week before was all about policy. The Republicans were actually offering to take part-ownership of the economy by spending the year in dense discussions about the deficit and spending.

Expectations raised, the president contributed nothing. Instead he dumped ridicule and derision on the Republican leadership seated before him. With that speech, Mr. Obama kicked off his 2012 presidential campaign, and in so doing politicized the economy.

The timing was not good. Whether it's this week's report that consumer confidence has fallen to a six-month low or anecdotal conversation ("So what do you think happens when QE2 ends?"), the sense grows that people are starting to freak out over the economy—over persistently high unemployment and persistently weak growth.

With the U.S. economy, a Lazarus rising is always possible (or was). But the informed betting is going the other way. Private forecasters have reduced their estimates for economic growth the rest of the year well below the 3%-plus the Federal Reserve predicted in April. The Fed's 2012 growth forecast runs as high as 4.2%. They must be using high-powered telescopes.

It's ironic indeed that Barack Obama, in a slap at his predecessor, routinely said that his policies would be "smart" this or "smart" that. A "smart" economy would at least have the virtue of clarity for the purposes of planning and capital investment. The Obama economy does not. Economic decision-makers—from 401(k) investors to Fortune 500 CFOs—are flying instrument-less through the clouds because that is where the policy choices made by this White House have left them.

The policy most explicitly intended to reboot the economy was 2009's $814 billion stimulus and successive budgets that raised federal spending to 25% of a $14 trillion economy. In this year's first quarter, the economy grew at 1.8%. Liberal economists, such as former Obama economic adviser Christina Romer, argue the stimulus should have been bigger, $1.2 trillion. Others wanted $2 trillion. We leave that to a generation of seminars in macroeconomics. Barack Obama, believing that $800 billion of injected "demand" would lift the economy, decided to devote his political capital and congressional majorities to reorganizing two major American industries, health care and finance.

Merits aside, both creations rose from the table as 2,000-page laws. Hundreds of thousands of economic actors across the country now wait while the bureaucracies struggle to interpret 4,000 pages of "smart" legislating. What evidence do liberals cite for their vestigial faith that these industries, employing millions of people in complex daily activities, can grow long term at greater than 3% from beneath the morass of Dodd-Frank and the Obama health-care law?

The housing sector, a monumental and intractable mess, chokes the economy. No matter. The president allowed (or told) "adviser" Elizabeth Warren of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to engulf banks and mortgage servicers in negotiations over a complex regulatory scheme whose goal, literally, is to fix their "business model."

The White House now says the free trade agreements with Colombia, Panama and South Korea will be delayed absent payouts of more money for "trade adjustment assistance." Ergo, the past two years of uncertainty for trade commitments will be extended.

It is sometimes unfair to tag presidents with blame for an underperforming economy. Not this time. This president made conscious policy choices during a deep recession to reorder vast swaths of American industry. Strong-performing economies need clarity. Barack Obama has given ours indecision stretching to the horizon. And economic growth, like a long gray day, sits still below 3%.

Write to henninger@wsj.com

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 04:28:32 AM »

O's jobs-export economy
Businesses afraid to hire here
Last Updated: 3:26 AM, June 3, 2011

More  Print Charles Gasparino




Wall Street economists I speak to feel pretty confi dent that -- for all the news about housing prices falling, gas prices rising and the stock market zig-zagging and a possible downgrade of US -- the chances of a "double dip" recession are pretty remote. After all, companies are still profitable two years after the financial collapse, and judging by the job listings even at banking basket-case Citigroup, people are finding work on Wall Street.

But that doesn't mean the broader economy, defined by how many people are working, is getting noticeably better anytime soon. In fact, don't expect any major hiring sprees by corporate America in the next two years -- and, if policies don't change in Washington, possibly not in our lifetimes.


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Well, Wall Street's doing fine: Much of the private sector, like this store in Harlem, is finding it harder to get buy.

The problem for the average American worker: Businesses have learned to make money by cutting costs (i.e., jobs) or relocating to China and India. And it's not merely that it's cheaper to operate overseas; a huge part of the problem is the fear that it's going to keep getting more expensive to hire here.

Both small-business owners, and analysts who cover these companies tell me that many American businesses would like to stay here, but they see no letup in sight in the endless stream of taxes and regulations coming from an administration most of them consider anti-business.

And now the weakness of the Republican presidential field raises the chances for President Obama's re-election in 2012 -- and even more Washington-imposed woes.

Veteran analyst Peter Sidoti covers the stocks of small corporations -- those that have traditionally been the engines of hiring and growth, particularly coming out of a recession. He points to the experience of AT Cross Co., the manufacturer of the famous Cross pen.

Sidoti, who covers Cross' stock, notes that the company shut down one of its manufacturing plants in Rhode Island a few years back, and set up shop in China. "The move seemed so unnecessary," he says. "The plant was small and it costs money to relocate to China." That is, until Sidoti began adding up the costs of staying in a high-tax state like Rhode Island: Not just federal ones, but state and local, too.

And those problems have only been compounded now: ObamaCare's on track to add serious costs; the administration may yet give us some crazy energy plan; the president's reaffirmed his desire to reverse the Bush-era tax rates, which would amount to one of the largest tax-hikes in history.

Sidoti's actually an example of the problem. With federal, state and city taxes, Sidoti & Co. gets hammered with around a 75 percent tax rate. With his health-care costs rising 10 percent alone this year, he estimates that the first $1 million his company earns goes toward paying those costs.

"That's why I'm looking to open an office in Austin, Texas, where taxes are lower," he tells me.

He adds: "Washington has to decide what they want the country's future to be. Is it going to be Detroit, which did nothing to help business, so people and capital have fled, or will it be Texas, which at least for the moment is attracting people and capital because taxes are low?"

If there's good news in any of this, it's that more businesses can recover -- it's easier than ever to move a factory to China or the Philippines and slash your operating costs. Stocks of these companies will rise as they become more efficient. Take a look at a one-year stock chart of Cross pen and you'll see what I'm saying.

The bad news is that not everyone in this country is wealthy enough to own stocks or can afford to move to China for a factory job.

Charles Gasparino is a Fox Business Network senior corre spondent.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/jobs_export_economy_68cw8tK1iwVYYEd2dJUxmL#ixzz1ODAE4IhM




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Nothing wil change until obama is gone at the minimum.   He is the tyhoid mary of the economy.   


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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 05:27:16 AM »
In fairness the jobs number today was not near as bad as was originally thought, but still not good enough to make any kind of serious dent in the unemployment rate. - 160,000 jobs.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 05:40:33 AM »
It was 54k and the rate rose.   

What a friggen disaster this admn is. 

Hope and change bitches - you morons voted for this.

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2011, 08:06:17 AM »
He's so arrogant..

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2011, 08:11:34 AM »
Terrible combo of ignorance, incompetence, arrogance, illiteracy, and unwarranted self assuredness. 



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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 10:33:41 AM »
It was 54k and the rate rose.   

What a friggen disaster this admn is. 

Hope and change bitches - you morons voted for this.

Oops. Your'e right. My bad. I dont know where I read that today that it was 160,000. I guess that is what they were expecting. Man, that really sucks. Make no mistake, this is a piss poor recovery.
Jan. Jobs: 36,000!!

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2011, 07:21:53 AM »
Bump for anyone to tell me what policy Obama has enacted that has helped the economy. 

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2011, 07:37:11 AM »
It was 54k and the rate rose.   

What a friggen disaster this admn is. 

Hope and change bitches - you morons voted for this.

Not only that, but half them were McDonald's jobs.

Barack Obama - fixing America's economy one minimum wage, burger-flipping job at a time.

Here's to hoping Blacken was one of those lucky few who gets to wear the uniform with the golden arches.

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2011, 07:54:28 AM »
Not only that, but half them were McDonald's jobs.

Barack Obama - fixing America's economy one minimum wage, burger-flipping job at a time.

Here's to hoping Blacken was one of those lucky few who gets to wear the uniform with the golden arches.

I have been screaming about these crazy policies forever and now the chickens are coming home to roost. 

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2011, 08:02:32 AM »
I have been screaming about these crazy policies forever and now the chickens are coming home to roost.  

Yup. The Obama regime has clearly shown that they haven't the faintest fucking idea what they're doing. And when that becomes apparent then it's time to go.

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2011, 08:05:18 AM »
Obamacare alone is causing massive economic chaos. 

If businesses now have to pay a shot load more to cover part time people - guess what happens? 


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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2011, 08:06:51 AM »
Obamacare alone is causing massive economic chaos. 

If businesses now have to pay a shot load more to cover part time people - guess what happens? 



Obama and the left thinks they can force business to hire by putting a gun to their heads.  :-\

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2011, 08:08:08 AM »
Obama and the left thinks they can force business to hire by putting a gun to their heads.  :-\

They take their ball and go to another field. 

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2011, 08:14:49 AM »
They take their ball and go to another field. 

That's far too complex a concept for your typical Dem to comprehend.

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 08:15:41 AM »
The near collapse of the banking industry is what caused this problem and the glut of foreclosures and the strict credit market continues unabated.

let's hear what a Republican POTUS would have done differently to address these issues

keep in mind that I think the Dodd Frank legislation sucks but the Republican POTUS would have had to do something to address these problems regardless

Let's hear the solution to this very easy problem

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2011, 08:17:16 AM »
I'd rather hear the Dems present a budget of their own to counter Ryan's. Or is that too hard for the left?

Typical leftist like Straw Man: "Big budget numbers scary and hard to read. Credit cards good. Repubs evil. Spend, spend."

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2011, 08:19:42 AM »
The near collapse of the banking industry is what caused this problem and the glut of foreclosures and the strict credit market continues unabated.

let's hear what a Republican POTUS would have done differently to address these issues

keep in mind that I think the Dodd Frank legislation sucks but the Republican POTUS would have had to do something to address these problems regardless

Let's hear the solution to this very easy problem

Obama has spent trillions so far straw.   Other than cap and trade he got everything he wanted.   Blaming bush considering Obama appointed summers geithner bernake liu et al is ridiculous. 

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2011, 08:22:01 AM »
Obama has spent trillions so far straw.   Other than cap and trade he got everything he wanted.   Blaming bush considering Obama appointed summers geithner bernake liu et al is ridiculous. 

Modus operandi for the left. They've got nothing left. No accomplishments to tout, no economic recovery to reference. Nothing but OBL to praise and Bush to vilify.


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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2011, 08:34:04 AM »
The near collapse of the banking industry is what caused this problem and the glut of foreclosures and the strict credit market continues unabated.

let's hear what a Republican POTUS would have done differently to address these issues

keep in mind that I think the Dodd Frank legislation sucks but the Republican POTUS would have had to do something to address these problems regardless

Let's hear the solution to this very easy problem
LMFAO wtf did obama do to address those issues?

finreg?

really?

tell me how finreg is going to help...

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2011, 08:36:26 AM »
Obama has spent trillions so far straw.   Other than cap and trade he got everything he wanted.   Blaming bush considering Obama appointed summers geithner bernake liu et al is ridiculous.  

he did ?

the stimulus was less than ~ 900 billion and as of Jan 2011 only about 429 billion had been spent.

http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/

Maybe you're thinking of TARP or the Auto Bail Outs or the Wars

All of which were costs incurred by the Bush Administration

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2011, 08:37:14 AM »
Obama and the Dems won't even present a budget, let alone do anything to actually fix the economy. They're much more content to keep taking the billions China hands out to keep their unions and other benefit-leeches in check.

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2011, 08:40:44 AM »
I'd rather hear the Dems present a budget of their own to counter Ryan's. Or is that too hard for the left?

They SHOULD but they won't. 

Politically, it's better for Dems to just let the repub hang themselves with the Ryan plan, and not introduce their own plan which can be criticized.  Morally, it's corrupt, but this is the political board and not the morals board :)

Just like the repubs never got behind an alternative to obamcare for 12 years - they just shit on the dem version.

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2011, 08:42:32 AM »
LMFAO wtf did obama do to address those issues?

finreg?

really?

tell me how finreg is going to help...

it didn't

I've always said that

you're an idiot if you think otherwise

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Re: Obama's policies are the cause of the bad economy.
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2011, 08:46:41 AM »
it didn't

I've always said that

you're an idiot if you think otherwise
I agree, so you agree that obama did nothing to help the issues you talked about then?