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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2011, 02:23:39 PM »
Liar. You've bragged openly about being a major distributor, and so major, in fact, that you noted that you don't even consider orders of under $1,000 because it wasn't worth your time or effort.  ::)

well ,,and you said i was svestes? was it true? ,, : )  life is strange like this eh friend?

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« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2011, 02:23:49 PM »
Hahah... brutal.

Nah, I don't want to get involved in this. Not going to post my information   :D




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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2011, 02:24:25 PM »
well ,,and you said i was svestes? was it true? ,, : )  life is strange like this eh friend?

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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2011, 02:28:39 PM »
I don't think ,what you have to say(concerning drugs)should be out in the open for anyone to see...

What is the reason for this?

If it is that you think that what GH15 says is not true then most threads and forums should be closed. Gossip, lies, thrash-talk and name calling is sadly (just like with people in real life) a key-part of interacting. Just like a forum where mothers and fathers discuss how to bring up their child (biggest responsibilty and possible ill effects) should not be closed. Discussion is key.

Is it that these drugs are in some countries illegal and so people should not be told about them? This is a forum that is visited by people not restricted by those rules and where these things can be bought on the market next to milk. If illegal things and potentialy dangerous things are not open for discussion then most of internet should be closed: porn websites, nazi gatherings, KKK parties, sex with dogs and worms and most other content on the internet is 'not average' to say the least. Still no reason to hide and lock the information.

In the end all people are responsible for their own actions. If not then McDonalds, Marlboro and basically all companies and governments should be shut down in the name of false advertising and conviently 'forgetting' about all those ill effects from their 'wholesome' mothermade products.

In these cases I see that McDonalds promoting salads and low-fat burgers is more in violation then GH15 saying how much GH pro's use.

All should see and know that McDonalds in this case is selling pure lies and bullshit for the sake of money (like most people in general) and with little logic one should see and know that most pro's do indeed use 10+IU of GH a day.

So there is more reason to not talk about food, sex, cars, booze, gambling and most things people like, then not to talk about usage of steroids by a very small minority in society.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2011, 02:29:01 PM »
First off.... Settle down.. I don't think ,what you have to say(concerning drugs)should be out in the open for anyone to see... If you're so concerned with truth,let's start with your truth, put your real name,so we can look up truth for ourselves... Problem here is,we all have a different definition of truth....
 Better yet,start your own website,then when people are tired of lies,they can go on your site.. ? I see you in a thread,and I avoid you,not for any other reason than,you and I already did this,and you are on high repeat.. So I accepted  that you are what you are,and you have ZERO affect on my life.. I came here to (sort of)side with you,then you Phag up and attack me?  Not cool GH..

you dont understand what the gh15 is all about,,i dont make friend,,or budd or sisters or brother here,,i do gh15 for the truth ,,SO NEVER EVER WILL THERE BE ONE MORE BODYBUILD WHO COME INTO GYM AND BEING MADE FUN OF ,,EVER AGAIN ,,BUT ANYONE IN THE CULT,,SO HE KNOWS FROM THE GETGO WHAT IT TAKES,,AND THE ONES WHO ABOUT TO MAKE FUN OF HIM KNOW THAT HE MOST LIKLEY BEEN THROUGH THE GOD OF HORMONE UNIVERSITY AND LET HIM BE! ,,

there shall be no more a bodybuild who get in the gym and being the laughin stock of drug addicts,,there shall be no more bodybuild who want to build muscle and quality and tackle bunch of filthy drug addicts whl lie to him about meals and 3 hour a day work outs,,there shall be no more of that,,

why?

BECAUSE  THE ALL NEW GENERATION BEEN THROUGH

THE GH15 HORMONE UNIVERSITY ,,THEY ALL READ THE BIBLE,,

I GOT TO A POINT I AM WORSHIPPED ,,i just went to a gym 2 day ago ,,and in that gym they were talking about gh15 infront of my damn eyes ,,i was doing chin ups when on the back 2 fellas were discussing gh15 hormone protocols,,

now this! is glory

when you got that famos from internet this is big,,and for a reason ,, i didnt lie to them or sold them balonie,,i gave them what they wanted,,

THE TRUTH!

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2011, 02:38:27 PM »
There are laws governing the internet, and they are changing with the trend moving towards responsibility and liability.  Instructing people towards illegal behavior and death is an undertaking that should be reconsidered carefully by all parties.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2011, 02:38:38 PM »
What is the reason for this?

If it is that you think that what GH15 says is not true then most threads and forums should be closed. Gossip, lies, thrash-talk and name calling is sadly (just like with people in real life) a key-part of interacting. Just like a forum where mothers and fathers discuss how to bring up their child (biggest responsibilty and possible ill effects) should not be closed. Discussion is key.

Is it that these drugs are in some countries illegal and so people should not be told about them? This is a forum that is visited by people not restricted by those rules and where these things can be bought on the market next to milk. If illegal things and potentialy dangerous things are not open for discussion then most of internet should be closed: porn websites, nazi gatherings, KKK parties, sex with dogs and worms and most other content on the internet is 'not average' to say the least. Still no reason to hide and lock the information.

In the end all people are responsible for their own actions. If not then McDonalds, Marlboro and basically all companies and governments should be shut down in the name of false advertising and conviently 'forgetting' about all those ill effects from their 'wholesome' mothermade products.

In these cases I see that McDonalds promoting salads and low-fat burgers is more in violation then GH15 saying how much GH pro's use.

All should see and know that McDonalds in this case is selling pure lies and bullshit for the sake of money (like most people in general) and with little logic one should see and know that most pro's do indeed use 10+IU of GH a day.

So there is more reason to not talk about food, sex, cars, booze, gambling and most things people like, then not to talk about usage of steroids by a very small minority in society.
Because,they are drugs...Kids are idiots these days..  McDonalds has been Sued,as well as the tobacco companies..Who and why do you think those commercials are up,and they're paying for it.? When someone gets sick ,at least they know who to go to and place blame(even though they're to blame).. If GH gives info,and it does not agree wit the individual,who do they go to ?  McDonald and Cigarettes are legal,steroids are not..

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« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2011, 02:41:10 PM »
 GH15 is a troll and a retard. Everything that he has to say is refuted by the fact that the basic idea that all of his other ideas revolve, that pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of drugs and only drugs, is prima fasce wrong because there are thousands of bodybuilders in the World that take the exact same drugs as the pros in exact the same dosages and they do not look like the pros. Case closed.  

you need to retake basic logic friend

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2011, 02:44:36 PM »
you dont understand what the gh15 is all about,,i dont make friend,,or budd or sisters or brother here,,i do gh15 for the truth ,,SO NEVER EVER WILL THERE BE ONE MORE BODYBUILD WHO COME INTO GYM AND BEING MADE FUN OF ,,EVER AGAIN ,,BUT ANYONE IN THE CULT,,SO HE KNOWS FROM THE GETGO WHAT IT TAKES,,AND THE ONES WHO ABOUT TO MAKE FUN OF HIM KNOW THAT HE MOST LIKLEY BEEN THROUGH THE GOD OF HORMONE UNIVERSITY AND LET HIM BE! ,,

there shall be no more a bodybuild who get in the gym and being the laughin stock of drug addicts,,there shall be no more bodybuild who want to build muscle and quality and tackle bunch of filthy drug addicts whl lie to him about meals and 3 hour a day work outs,,there shall be no more of that,,

why?

BECAUSE  THE ALL NEW GENERATION BEEN THROUGH

THE GH15 HORMONE UNIVERSITY ,,THEY ALL READ THE BIBLE,,

I GOT TO A POINT I AM WORSHIPPED ,,i just went to a gym 2 day ago ,,and in that gym they were talking about gh15 infront of my damn eyes ,,i was doing chin ups when on the back 2 fellas were discussing gh15 hormone protocols,,

now this! is glory

when you got that famos from internet this is big,,and for a reason ,, i didnt lie to them or sold them balonie,,i gave them what they wanted,,

THE TRUTH!

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Who cares about friends? We're not friends and will never be.. I don't like you ,and you know this.... Second,you're not famous,and who cares about going to the gym and being made fun of? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!!   Being in the gym is 1 maybe 2 hrs.of a persons day..What kind of idiot hates going to the gym because he isn't the biggest guy there? @ guys talking about you,and now you're a star? I've been here a very long time,and you have not given 1 piece of useful information ,when it comes to busting your  ass in the gym.. Everything is drugs,cheating and shortcuts..!  

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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2011, 02:45:21 PM »
McDonald and Cigarettes are legal,steroids are not..

My point indeed.

We should not look as to what something is, but WHY it is that way.

If you could give me a good reason as to why steroids are illegal and bad food and cigarettes are not?

I have not found a single person being able to give valid response and usually fall back to 'steroids are illegal because experts say so, who are we to interfere'. This is not a valid or logic response especially in light of all the information known about substances involved. It is not super-nova quantum mechanics where most people wander in the dark and have to rely on specialists.

Hopefully we can all agree that if one has to make a choice and take 20IU GH everyday or smoke 2 packs a day, he would, based on all evidence, choose to take GH with eyes closed.

And because youngsters are little slow with these things we should be open and talk about them and compare them with other things they allready know like bad food, no manners, cigarettes and alcohol.

The fact that smoking is permitted and using test is not, has no validity in any discussion or real life consequences.

Only validity is how things really are and not how fellow humans present them to be.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2011, 02:47:29 PM »
 GH15 is a troll and a retard. Everything that he has to say is refuted by the fact that the basic idea that all of his other ideas revolve, that pro bodybuilders look the way they do because of drugs and only drugs, is prima fasce wrong because there are thousands of bodybuilders in the World that take the exact same drugs as the pros in exact the same dosages and they do not look like the pros. Case closed. GH15 is a snake oil salesman who sells the idea to envious individuals that they aren't as big and ripped as pros only because of drugs, and that they would be if they only took as much drugs. It makes a lot of failed bodybuilders feel good about themselves and makes him popular in the boards, but it is a lie, and many people could get seriously sick or even die for following his advice.

   Do you want some kid to die of insulin shock or remain brain damaged for life because they listened to GH15? Do you want some kid to have a stroke or need a new kidney in less than 6 months for taking trenbolone in the ridiculous amounts that GH15 recommends? Do you want some kid to have to undergo painful surgery to remove part of his intestines that have grown too large to fit the body because he listened to GH15? Ban this troll. He abuses the board's bandwidth by starting multiple threads a day, every day, day after day.

  Starting a thread is a big deal. Most posters do not start threads at all, and some post here for years without starting a thread. Starting a thread means taking the board's bandwidth and is a very big deal. I am a veteran poster and I start a few threads a year at the most. GH15 starts several threads every day, day after day after day, for 5 years now. Make this bitch stop, please.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2011, 02:47:44 PM »
My point indeed.

We should not look as to what something is, but WHY it is that way.

If you could give me a good reason as to why steroids are illegal and bad food and cigarettes are not?

Hopefully we can all agree that if one has to make a choice and take 20IU GH everyday or smoke 2 packs a day, he would based on all evidence he would choose to take GH with eyes closed.

And because youngsters are little slow with these things we should be open and talk about them and compare them with other things they allready know like bad food, no manners, cigarettes and alcohol.

The fact that smoking is permitted and using test is not, has no validity in any discussion or real life consequences.

Only validity is how things really are and not how fellow humans present them to be.
You can't live without food(good or bad)..You can live your whole life without steroids,and not need it for anything..

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2011, 02:49:04 PM »
There are laws governing the internet, and they are changing with the trend moving towards responsibility and liability.  Instructing people towards illegal behavior and death is an undertaking that should be reconsidered carefully by all parties.

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And there things like "freedom of speech" regarding GH and "personal responsibility" regarding his readers/pupils.
Stop being a naive moron trying to censor things you don't like, it's simply pathetic.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2011, 02:52:36 PM »
"Pupils"?  You really are a horse's ass.

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« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2011, 02:55:39 PM »
GH15 is probably the longest running gimmick on here.
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« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2011, 02:55:46 PM »
"Pupils"?  You really are a horse's ass.

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Hey, it wasn't me who came with that term and btw, I only read his stuff.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2011, 02:55:53 PM »
peeps complaining about gh15 speaking truths would rather remain ignorant....

then dont read his threads! go watch fox news and take your antidepressants you tools

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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2011, 02:56:45 PM »
You can't live without food(good or bad)..You can live your whole life without steroids,and not need it for anything..

Not a valid argument to make steroids illegal, but a valid argument to make bad food illegal as it is a necessity and what people must have should be good for them as they have no choice whether to buy it or not. Extra things people dont need can possibly be bad but it is their own choice. Food is not a choice and therefore it should be good. Why is unhealthy food not banned then?

Gambling, women, cars, dogs, alcohol, cigarettes etc all form small or big dangers in our lives and we certainly can live without them.

Why are these things not banned?

The reason that something is banned must come from its qualities to endanger people. 500k people die from cigarettes yearly in USA alone and we certainly can live without smoking, why is smoking not banned is the question?

There is no proof that steroids are more bad then cigarettes, yet steroids are banned and people smoke freely, why is the question?


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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2011, 02:57:31 PM »
My god ! What a retarded thread ! Last I checked, Gh15 gave advice to those who ASKED for it ! " Pm answered " means just that, suckmymuscle ! He's not writing to himself ! I'd rather read 1000 threads started by Gh15 then 3 threads started by Stark and / or Decide ! Gh15 ISN'T forcing ANYONE to stick a needle in their ass ! Is he ? I don't think so ! He's only showin' HIS way to get to the top echelon of bb'ing. Here's some advice for some of you :


If you don't like what someone has to say ( in this case, Gh15 ) then, BY GOD, DON'T READ IT !!! IGNORE IT !! MY GOD, WHAT AN AMAZING CONCEPT !!

You lousy fucks are losin' sleep over somethin' so miniscule ! Lololol !!! This is the internet ! Heellloooooo !!! If some kid sticks himself with 20 iu's of insulin and goes into a diabetic coma we're goin' to blame Gh15 ???? Uhhhhhhh .... ok ! Why not blame the asshole who MADE THE DECISION to do it ??? Nah ... let's just blame some anon. poster on a forum ! You guys are pathetic ! Get a life !

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2011, 02:58:56 PM »
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.

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« Reply #45 on: June 06, 2011, 02:59:53 PM »
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.
   ::)


one time where you think gh15 has been wrong


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« Reply #46 on: June 06, 2011, 03:00:57 PM »
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.

You mad because he gives away advice for free, bro? ;)

Think of it this way, at least he's not supplying your clients. You can still rob them and mutate your female clients into full blown trannies all day long. Don't sweat it.

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #47 on: June 06, 2011, 03:02:19 PM »
First of all if you're young, naive and gets discouraged over the reality of bodybuilding you shouldn't be posting on getbig

second....People in the past would go through extreme measures to find the truth out about hormones and most of the time the hard way, so I think people are benefitting on the "get to the point" information GH15 offers

Third GH15 discourages all recreational drugs...makes fun of people who use recreational drugs and if you think this doesn't have an impact on his "followers"( for lack of a better term) then you're dumb

Fourth.....He is good entertainment for people like me, especially when he gets a rise out of the ones who think some top of the food chain athletes ( a handful out of 7 000 000 000) are natural..kind of reminds me of when I made a kid cry when I told him there was no Santa in grade 2

You don't like him, don't read his post..simple

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2011, 03:02:39 PM »
Not a valid argument to make steroids illegal, but a valid argument to make bad food illegal as it is a necessity and what people must have should be good for them as they have no choice whether to buy it or not. Extra things people dont need can possibly be bad but it is their own choice. Food is not a choice and therefore it should be good. Why is unhealthy food not banned then?

Gambling, women, cars, dogs, alcohol, cigarettes etc all form small or big dangers in our lives and we certainly can live without them.

Why are these things not banned?

The reason that something is banned must come from its qualities to endanger people. 500k people die from cigarettes yearly in USA alone and we certainly can live without smoking, why is smoking not banned is the question?

There is no proof that steroids are more bad then cigarettes, yet steroids are banned and people smoke freely, why is the question?


Cigarettes should absolutely be banned,as well as alcohol.. But they are not... So what do I care? Can't answer why they are legal,that's a question for the higher ups..

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Re: Open Letter To Mr. Avidan: A Call For gh15's Removal
« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2011, 03:03:18 PM »
My biggest problem with him is he's so bitter and his info is wrong alot of the time, he uses the same steroid protocols with everyone and the real world is not like that.

Luckily no one gives a fuck what you think 'Noel'.