Sting

[mass 04]

I haven't really watched TNA in a while. I guess Sting has a joke like gimmick. For the guys that watch, what is your opinion of it?

[nasht5]

he's playing the "joker" from batman ala: heath ledger makeup and chaos ... don't like it.

[tu_holmes]

I haven't really watched TNA in a while. I guess Sting has a joke like gimmick. For the guys that watch, what is your opinion of it?

I have actually enjoyed it... His "Joker" gimmick is pretty good.

Sting has actually shown himself to be kind of a versatile storyteller. He really does get into the bit and makes it work.

[Montague]

he's playing the "joker" from batman ala: heath ledger makeup and chaos ... don't like it.

Yes; instead of ripping off James O'barr, he's now ripping off DC Comics.
Such originality!
 

[tu_holmes]

I'm glad he never came to the Federation.

Funny, Vince has wanted him for years, but he has no desire to work for VKM.

[tu_holmes]

VKM wants everybody he can make a buck off of. I have never watched one match with Sting. Cannot ever actually see myself doing it. He would have gone no where in the Federation. He knows it and he has always been afraid of the Big Stage. Wrestlemania. Maybe one match against Undertaker. But besides that he couldn't draw a penny. He knows it and that's why he's always been afraid of coming up North. Stings a nothing. He'd have zero chance against Hulkster. Macho would have beaten him. Warrior would have ripped his head off. Bret, 3:16, HHH, Rock, and Cena would all beat him. His only hope in the Federation would have been against HBK. Shawn could have believeably put this clown over. That Crow gimmick wouldn't last a second with us Federation fans.

Chef, let's keep it real here... I get you're a  VKM mark like no other, but his Crow gimmick was the best gimmick between 96 and 98 period. No one stood a chance against that gimmick.

That's why WCW obliterated WWE in the ratings during that time... The gimmick ran it's course, as did the NWO gimmick, but at the time, the Sting Crow silent gimmick was the king.

EVERYONE wanted to see what Sting was going to do... was he WCW or NWO... etc.

You think Earthquake or Koko B. Ware were better gimmicks than the Crow sting? Come on man... Sting would have been just as over in the WWF.

Sting and Flair had hour long matches that put most WWF stuff to shame during their heyday.

Why do you Shill for Vince?

Who the fuck considers themselves a "Federation Fan" besides you around here anyway? Most of us are "wrestling fans" and watched both of them and whichever one was the most entertaining at the time is the one we watched the most.

[Montague]

Sting has confessed that a major reason he’s avoided going to the Fed is that he’s witnessed how they’ve used and what they’ve done with a lot of the talent that’s achieved stardom outside the WWF.

Whether it’s ego or just plain foolishness, the old man has a habit of not just underutilizing these guys, but COMPLETELY MISUSING THEM and drastically tarnishing their industry image.

Who knows how Vince would have used Sting?
It may have been better…may have been worse…may have been the same.
Sting was never willing to take the risk, and fortunately for him, he’s never had to.

[The Showstoppa]

So Tim has by his own admission "never watched a Sting match" yet thinks he didn't come to the WWF because he couldn't make it.....ummmmmm, okaayyyyyyyy.......


I've never been a big Sting guy, mostly from his fueding with Flair back in the day.....but he certainly had a huge fanbase and if used properly would have been a big draw in ANY federation he went to.  Otherwise VKM wouldn't have wanted him all these years.

[funk51]

So Tim has by his own admission "never watched a Sting match" yet thinks he didn't come to the WWF because he couldn't make it.....ummmmmm, okaayyyyyyyy.......


I've never been a big Sting guy, mostly from his fueding with Flair back in the day.....but he certainly had a huge fanbase and if used properly would have been a big draw in ANY federation he went to.  Otherwise VKM wouldn't have wanted him all these years.

a young sting was almost as popular as hulk hogan and had better ring skills.

[The Showstoppa]

a young sting was almost as popular as hulk hogan and had better ring skills.

The hardcore WWF fans from the northeast that I have met from that time period are BY FAR the least knowledgeable fans as far as ANY other territories go.  If it wasn't spoon fed to them by Vince, they know nothing about it.  Its actually kinda sad because during the 80's it was so much fun following, even if only thru magazines, what was happening in Florida, Texas, Memphis, Minnesota, etc...

[tu_holmes]

The hardcore WWF fans from the northeast that I have met from that time period are BY FAR the least knowledgeable fans as far as ANY other territories go.  If it wasn't spoon fed to them by Vince, they know nothing about it.  Its actually kinda sad because during the 80's it was so much fun following, even if only thru magazines, what was happening in Florida, Texas, Memphis, Minnesota, etc...

They were great times... I miss them.

Going to see the different guys from around the country... good stuff.

[The Showstoppa]

They were great times... I miss them.

Going to see the different guys from around the country... good stuff.

I loved when a new guy came to the area.  They would run those cheesy little movies to introduce them.  Still remember Magnum TA's video set to "Born to be wild..." hahaha   good times!

[tu_holmes]

I loved when a new guy came to the area.  They would run those cheesy little movies to introduce them.  Still remember Magnum TA's video set to "Born to be wild..." hahaha   good times!

Haha... him on that damn motorcycle.

There's a guy whose career was cut terribly short.

That guy would have been huge had his accident not happened.

[tu_holmes]

Maybe better ring skills but nowhere near as popular. How many times did young Sting sell out MSG?

How many times did Hogan sell out in New Japan or the Georgia dome? About as many as Goldberg.

Trust me, Sting has sold out plenty of places all over the world.

[Montague]

I've never been a big Sting guy...

Show, I know you were really a "Little Stinger."
It's okay, man... you don't have to hide it.
As I've said before: we're ALL accepted down here.







































 

[The Showstoppa]

Show, I know you were really a "Little Stinger."
It's okay, man... you don't have to hide it.
As I've said before: we're ALL accepted down here.







































 

    Man,when he would no-sell and do that stupid yell against Flair I would go ballistic..... 

[tu_holmes]

   Man,when he would no-sell and do that stupid yell against Flair I would go ballistic..... 

And then do the gorilla chest beat.

Hahaha!!! I remember those days.

They had the best matches though. Hogan has never had a match to rival Sting and Flair at Clash of the Champions.

[tu_holmes]

No disrespect at all. Hogan could have sold out anything. Hulkamania is the strongest force in the universe. You would have to see what Hulkster was capable of doing to a crowd. Listen to what the Gorilla used to say. "This place feels like its gonna cave in" Hogan could cause border line Earthquakes in the center of NYC! This guy set it off like no other. You would have to see it to believe it. Sting is a World Class "B" superstar of wrestling. Be real here fellas. Mania is the Main Stage.

Sting is a straight up AAA superstar in wrestling.

Arguably the 4th or 5th greatest wrestler of all time. Behind Hogan, Flair, and maybe HHH.

No one else touches Sting.

Gorilla Monsoon screaming over a crowd track doesn't make it so.

I've seen them both in the big events in their prime... To say that Sting couldn't hang with Hogan is just false.

[mass 04]

split this topic (no homo). Good debate going on.

[Montague]

split this topic (no homo). Good debate going on.

Pfft...

Fag!!

[Montague]

Oh, sorry man.

I just saw the "no homo."

[mass 04]

Oh, sorry man.

I just saw the "no homo."

I think that you have to put Sting in the top 10 North American wrestlers of all time. I never really liked him after he ditched the blonde hair and became Crow Sting. He was the whole package. He did have the advantage of working with Flair pretty early in his WCW run. Put his best matches up against Austin, Rock, Taker's best....and I say Sting's are just as good.

[Montague]

Sometimes I have to remind myself that Sting and "Ultimate Jim" came up at the same time under the same trainers.
Total opposites insofar as skills and attitude.

[mass 04]

Sometimes I have to remind myself that Sting and "Ultimate Jim" came up at the same time under the same trainers.
Total opposites insofar as skills and attitude.

What does Warrior think of Sting? I watched that shoot he did a while back but don't really remember.

[Montague]

What does Warrior think of Sting? I watched that shoot he did a while back but don't really remember.

I don't recall ever hearing Jim mention anything about Sting.
But then again, I don't pay much attention to anything Hellwig ever says about wrestling.