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What Changes Would you make
« on: September 03, 2011, 09:17:19 AM »
If you were a WWE writer, what would you change/add?

1. Tag Team Division reboot - I know this has been talked about....SHOW ME
2. Finish Storylines
3. Create more storylines, make them last longer
4. Go back to the 2 minute promos right before the match.......do away with 20 minute diatribes in the ring.
5. Stop title changes as frequently as we change our oil
6. Stop pushing bad talent like Mark Henry, he is not a main eventer
7. Every week/every other week, promote a legends match, participants announced right before the bout. Piper, Snuka, Valentine, Steamboat, Volkoff etc. I know alot of these guys are old but many still wrestle on the indies

Your thoughts?

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 10:08:24 AM »
All good recommendations.
I especially like and agree strongly with 1, 2, and 4.

As far as 3 & 5, I think I'd like to see fewer angles and storylines that last longer, including title runs.
Remember how long Hennig held the I-C belt; or how long RVD had the ECW TV title?
Vince, especially, always could make his titles "mean something."

Hell - even as a little mark kid, I used to look at the I-C belt as more prestigious than the big belt because of the guys feuding over it.
Hulk was "the guy," but you've got to admit that matches with Steamboat, Savage, Hennig, & HBK were A LOT MORE EXCITING.
Hogan as champion almost had become a paradigm, but a match like Bret vs. Hennig kept you on the edge of your seat!

As for 6: cut your losses.
I'm under the impression that Henry is a good, devoted, cooperative employee, but that shouldn't merit a huge push over more deserving guys.
It sounds like the Fed's got a TON of developmental talent.
Bring'em in.
Try them out.
If they don't work, MOVE ON.
It's not like you've got slim pickings to chose from!

Is the problem with the talent, or not knowing what to do with the talent?

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 01:26:40 PM »
I am going to go for.........

  • Abandon the silly gimmicks
  • Bring back the "families", a'la Heenan, Hart etc to reignite genuine feuds
  • Lift the PG rating, it doesnt work for this generation (absolutely NO crowd reaction)
  • Blood some genuine tag teams - we had everything from LOD vs Demolition to Beverly Brothers vs Bushwhackers and they were all entertaining
  • Plan around angles for 3 - 6 months of work, dont just try to improvise because they dont think their random, last minute twist isnt working.

I could go on and on about the problems with the industry today however it would be a very lengthy discussion which would stale the subject. Even the simplest angles which should have been era defining, superstar making cash cows like the WCW takeover / invasion have failed miserably.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2011, 01:30:10 PM »
I heard years ago WWf/WWE was under some scrutiny from NAACP or one of those organizations for not pushing more "diversity" wrestlers which is why I think Henry always comes up. Besides Kofi and Henry, who else is there.

I also think they gift Henry a little biit due to being a loyal employee, 15 yrs or so.

Would love someone at WWE to see this thread.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2011, 01:38:06 PM »
Would love someone at WWE to see this thread.

Normally i wouldnt entertain the idea of wasting my time doing so, but i have just sent WWE corporate the link to this thread with a brief description as to what the discussion is about. Not that they'll ever look or care but sometimes the little man has to take a stand and make his voice heard.....

http://corporate.wwe.com/company/contact_form.jsp?dept=fan

I implore you to join me!

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 01:41:25 PM »
I heard years ago WWf/WWE was under some scrutiny from NAACP or one of those organizations for not pushing more "diversity" wrestlers which is why I think Henry always comes up.


WCW also faced backlash from several "minority" employees who filed formal complaints in a suit.
I don't remember if it actually went to court, but suddenly, they put the big belt on Booker T, made Ernie Miller the commisioner, pushed Steivie Ray to calling the B-shows & some PPV's, Sonny Ono was given more TV time doing some horse-shit.

There were other examples, but those are the ones I remember best.


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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2011, 01:46:21 PM »
I wonder why Sato & Tanaka never won the straps lol

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2011, 03:37:14 PM »
loosen the no blood rule a bit. The blading was getting crazy before they banned it, but done a few times a year could really add to a match.

revamp the whole announce team.

I agree..build up tag teams, but stop splitting them up for absolutely no reason. You break up the Harts, who were pretty over, for example, and do what with them?


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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2011, 06:57:35 PM »
Normally i wouldnt entertain the idea of wasting my time doing so, but i have just sent WWE corporate the link to this thread with a brief description as to what the discussion is about. Not that they'll ever look or care but sometimes the little man has to take a stand and make his voice heard.....

http://corporate.wwe.com/company/contact_form.jsp?dept=fan

I implore you to join me!

Great job. Thx for taking the initiative

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2011, 02:43:12 AM »
loosen the no blood rule a bit. The blading was getting crazy before they banned it, but done a few times a year could really add to a match.

revamp the whole announce team.

I agree..build up tag teams, but stop splitting them up for absolutely no reason. You break up the Harts, who were pretty over, for example, and do what with them?



How about stop putting random wrestlers together that you cant write for as a singles competitor. Bourne came back with some good momentum and disappeared in the pack immediately, Kofi if up and down in regards to TV time and stories so they put them together and give them the straps! Its surpassing ridiculous.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 03:22:36 PM »
How about stop putting random wrestlers together that you cant write for as a singles competitor. Bourne came back with some good momentum and disappeared in the pack immediately, Kofi if up and down in regards to TV time and stories so they put them together and give them the straps! Its surpassing ridiculous.

I dont know if we will ever have true tag teams with the fluidity of Bulldogs, LOD, Harts etc........Lets remember some of the singles that were put together and did damage - New Age Outlaws, Tully & Arn Rotundo & Windham....etc

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 08:22:19 PM »
- Much better build to the storylines.  Don't start something 2 weeks before a PPV.

- More personal issues into the storylines.  The best ones in recent years have had that element, from Orton vs HHH (although the match at WM wasn't much good), HBK vs Jericho a couple of years back, where they brought the wife into it.

- Get away from the 'If It's Not Main Event It's Just Filler' mentality, where mid-card guys get thrown into the ring to just fill time, without any real storylines behind what they're doing.

- Reform the Cruiserweight Division, but drop one of the top titles.  Push the US and IC titles back to the fore.

- If the PG is going to stay, look at doing a proper 'Late Night' edition, which airs at a later time, where they can allow more of the Attitude-style programming.

- Bring more development talents to the TV shows.  I can remember an endless stream of guys who would appear one week, job to a Superstar, and then either go back to the Indy's or developmental.  It builds the legitimacy of the Superstar, and gives a young guy a wealth of experience.

- Bring more of the Legend's back to TV in some kind of role.  Get the ones who can talk to become on-screen mentor's or trainers to the younger guys.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 05:59:36 AM »
I like how they are given mid-card guys like Bourne, Ziggler, Ryder etc....little video packages to help them get over. The ratings breakdown shows that segments and matches with Punk, Cena, Triple H etc.. do very well, but they lose a ton of viewers during other parts of the show. I have noticed a big difference in the past month or so, though.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2011, 03:25:30 AM »
Just read the Raw GM angle has fallen to the waist side.....once again another Angle gimmick built up and wiped away.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2011, 08:13:16 AM »
Just read the Raw GM angle has fallen to the waist side.....once again another Angle gimmick built up and wiped away.
This was from today...I never thought they were going to reveal who it was.


F4WOnline.com is reporting that the WWE creative team has been given no information on the Raw GM character/angle except to leave it be for the time being. While there are some within the company who feel the angle is finished, there has been no confirmation of this. As we've noted in the past, the GM podium still shows up sporadically at WWE events, but hasn't been used.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2011, 08:25:21 AM »
This was from today...I never thought they were going to reveal who it was.


F4WOnline.com is reporting that the WWE creative team has been given no information on the Raw GM character/angle except to leave it be for the time being. While there are some within the company who feel the angle is finished, there has been no confirmation of this. As we've noted in the past, the GM podium still shows up sporadically at WWE events, but hasn't been used.

haha, are they still doing that stupid "you have mail" crap? I saw that at least a year ago and thought how dumb it was then.  they need to drop the idiotic "GM" angles and focus more on the in-ring performance.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2011, 07:05:15 AM »
haha, are they still doing that stupid "you have mail" crap? I saw that at least a year ago and thought how dumb it was then.  they need to drop the idiotic "GM" angles and focus more on the in-ring performance.

Maybe they will reveal Hugh Jackman as the anonymous gm as he is rumored to host a show next month

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2011, 08:45:46 AM »
Maybe they will reveal Hugh Jackman as the anonymous gm as he is rumored to host a show next month

Those guest hosts were terrible...they knew nothing about wrestling and were just there to shill. The only decent ones were Bob Barker and Shaq.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2011, 06:29:59 PM »
drop the divas division.  None of them can wrestle.  None can speak.  Waste of time.  If I want T&A I will look at online porn.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2011, 04:45:27 AM »
drop the divas division.  None of them can wrestle.  None can speak.  Waste of time.  If I want T&A I will look at online porn.

I am on the fence with this. I think they are a draw at live shows.....

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2011, 05:31:55 AM »
I am on the fence with this. I think they are a draw at live shows.....

As a wrestling purist i would have to agree with MB, i see no attraction in watching glamour models / tarts skimping about in revealing clothing and making an absolute c*nt out of the business. Its a part of the show i will never watch for the very reasons he listed.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2011, 06:08:15 PM »
- No false starts with "Money in the Bank". If you say you're going to cash the briefcase, you CASH THE BRIEFCASE (Miz, Swagger, and Del Rio got away with that).

- Go back to three titles. Unites the IC/US titles and the World/WWE titles. Keep the brands separate but make the champions the only ones who can appear on both shows.

- Quit letting Raw rape Smackdown every time there's a WWE draft.

- I like the anonymous GM thing. Keep Triple H off TV as much, unless you take away his Chief Operations Officer gig. The COO doesn't need to be present every week.

- Ditch Bragging Rights and Fatal-4 Way PPVs. Survivor Series can be about "bragging rights" with a Raw vs. Smackdown battle.

- Let a new jack (i.e. someone who's never been a World Champion) win the Rumble and for the first time since 2006, that winner goes forward to win one of the titles at WrestleMania. The last 4 Rumble winners have FAILED to win gold at WM.

- Go back to one "Money In The Bank" winner.


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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2011, 11:43:33 AM »
drop the divas division.  None of them can wrestle.  None can speak.  Waste of time.  If I want T&A I will look at online porn.
I think the main problem is who the actual performers are. With the exception of a few, they are bikini models. There are talented women wrestlers out there, but while some of them are attractive, don't looks like Kelly Kelly or The Bellas. The current champ can't even run the ropes...it looks like it's her second day of training.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2011, 11:45:34 AM »
I've said this a million times.

Cut down the PPVs to 4 or 6 per year... This will allow story lines to build up and will allow you to have them mean something.

Stop making the champ wrestle for the belt all the damn time, it makes it kind of worthless.

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Re: What Changes Would you make
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2011, 07:32:14 AM »
I've said this a million times.

Cut down the PPVs to 4 or 6 per year... This will allow story lines to build up and will allow you to have them mean something.

Stop making the champ wrestle for the belt all the damn time, it makes it kind of worthless.

Go back to the big 4 (SummerSlam, Survivor Series, Royal Rumble, WrestleMania). All other other PPVs morphed from the "In Your House" series in 1995, which originally were only two hours long.

As, as stated earlier, unify the IC and US titles, as well as the World and WWE titles. Keep the brand separate, with only the champions being able to wrestle on both shows.