Hunting...

[che]

I don't have any problem with hunting (I really don't give a fuck ) but except for a few Indians that still hunt for food, most hunters in the U.S. hunt for recreation for the  pleasure of stalking and killing animals ,  so stop with that bullshit ,''I hunt for the meat'' '' “I hunt to interact with nature.”  blah , blah ........................ ..

[G_Thang]

how about these mother fuckers? I want to skin them alive.

WTF?  how about killing the animals first? 

[che]

how about these mother fuckers? I want to skin them alive.

That's worse than the chainsaw video WTF?

[SF1900]

Its weird, I had no problem watching the mexican chainsaw video, but I refuse to watch the above video.

[Nails]

i have never personally have hunted anything in my life, but i do wanna go to africa for a big game cat and canada for a moose to stuff them and put them in my cabin.... ill be selling some of the meat her on getbig when its all grinded down to burger size patties.

the closest i got to killing anything was a chicken that my grandmother made me break its neck on the farm back in the days when i went to visit her.

[delta9mda]

That's worse than the chainsaw video WTF?

i feel more sorry for the animals than the drug dealing scumbags that get beheaded. chinese are savages that are good at math.

[Board_SHERIF]

Its weird, I had no problem watching the Mexican chainsaw video, but I refuse to watch the above video.

I actually watched that video a few months ago, could not stop thinking about it  
and will not watch that damn Mexican chainsaw video.
Gooks suck ~!

[Nails]

I actually watched that video a few months ago, could not stop thinking about it  
and will not watch that damn Mexican chainsaw video.
Gooks suck ~!

have you seen the video that swede posted a while back of the teens that picked up some old guy took him to the woods and beat him to death with a hammer and repeatedly stabbed him with a screwdriver?

i felt bad for that guy because he didnt do anything wrong, on the other hand these drug runners know exactly what will happen if they slip up

[Board_SHERIF]

have you seen the video that swede posted a while back of the teens that picked up some old guy took him to the woods and beat him to death with a hammer and repeatedly stabbed him with a screwdriver?

i felt bad for that guy because he didnt do anything wrong, on the other hand these drug runners know exactly what will happen if they slip up

no, I can not watch that stuff................men in thongs turns my stomach enough.

[makaveli25]

I appreciate that fact that you butthurt anti hunting fellas love animals. I to love animals I consider my dogs my best friends they're part of my family. A guy going out once a year with his son or other buddies to kill a couple of bucks isn't a huge deal though. You guys point out the worst people! I don't like the guys who go to Africa and kill lions and animals like that for fun it doesn't make much sense to me.

Hunting deer and smaller game in North America shouldn't hurt your feeling so much. You see how many of those deer get hit by cars. There's  to many of them! Any where I've lived in the country I see tons of deer running around in populated areas. They're just animals! As long as you don't torture them or kill them for the hide only who cares. A lot of great men through the ages have been hunters.

This is the last post I'm gonna make in this thread. Sorry Coltrane for taking personal shots at you and Mr. Magoo to. I'm sure I will be disagreeing with you in many other threads we can keep it civilized.

I've never actually been hunting I love to fish. I really enjoy being in the outdoors out in the woods. A lot of hunters enjoy the peace, serenity, and beauty the outdoors offer. They're not a bunch of cold blooded killer. My buddies step dad would trade deer sausage and steaks for the trout my dad would catch. It was really awesome!

[che]

I appreciate that fact that you butthurt anti hunting fellas love animals. I to love animals I consider my dogs my best friends they're part of my family. A guy going out once a year with his son or other buddies to kill a couple of bucks isn't a huge deal though. You guys point out the worst people! I don't like the guys who go to Africa and kill lions and animals like that for fun it doesn't make much sense to me.

Hunting deer and smaller game in North America shouldn't hurt your feeling so much. You see how many of those deer get hit by cars. There's  to many of them! Any where I've lived in the country I see tons of deer running around in populated areas. They're just animals! As long as you don't torture them or kill them for the hide only who cares. A lot of great men through the ages have been hunters.

This is the last post I'm gonna make in this thread. Sorry Coltrane for taking personal shots at you and Mr. Magoo to. I'm sure I will be disagreeing with you in many other threads we can keep it civilized.

 

[Nails]

I never leave home without my Genuine leather lifting belt

[MikMaq]

I don't have any problem with hunting (I really don't give a fuck ) but except for a few Indians that still hunt for food, most hunters in the U.S. hunt for recreation for the  pleasure of stalking and killing animals ,  so stop with that bullshit ,''I hunt for the meat'' '' “I hunt to interact with nature.”  blah , blah ........................ ..

Aren't you like a mexican or some shit how the fuck do you know what we do?

[dantelis]

Yeah, let's ban hunting.  That way the already overpopulated deer and elk herds can grow even larger and then starve during brutal winters when their populations overwhelm their ecosystems.   

There is a good reason that there is still regulated hunting...it is to keep the animal populations in check.  As we've continued to increase the size of our developed cities and towns and farms and ranches, there is less land for these animals to graze.  The herds need to be responsibly culled, something that used to be done by predators, which are too few to do the job.  (And, if you want to argue for allowing predators to be reintroduced into all of these environments with no checks, take a look at what is happening in Yellowstone with the reintroduction of the wolf.  They are reproducing at an increasing rate and are moving out into ranches where the domestic livestock is easy prey.)

I definitely don't agree with those who hunt only for sport, who just want a trophy.  Much better if they take the meat so the animal doesn't die in vain.  If you don't want the meat, donate it to a homeless shelter.  I am sure those people would love some wild game as a change from their regular fair.

[Nails]

Yeah, let's ban hunting.  That way the already overpopulated deer and elk herds can grow even larger and then starve during brutal winters when their populations overwhelm their ecosystems.   

There is a good reason that there is still regulated hunting...it is to keep the animal populations in check.  As we've continued to increase the size of our developed cities and towns and farms and ranches, there is less land for these animals to graze.  The herds need to be responsibly culled, something that used to be done by predators, which are too few to do the job.  (And, if you want to argue for allowing predators to be reintroduced into all of these environments with no checks, take a look at what is happening in Yellowstone with the reintroduction of the wolf.  They are reproducing at an increasing rate and are moving out into ranches where the domestic livestock is easy prey.)

I definitely don't agree with those who hunt only for sport, who just want a trophy.  Much better if they take the meat so the animal doesn't die in vain.  If you don't want the meat, donate it to a homeless shelter.  I am sure those people would love some wild game as a change from their regular fair.

Elk burgers at FUDDRUCKERS are damn good, and i also had buffalo burgers at buffalo bill ranch in Denver colorado... good eating

[leadhead]

I find it quite ironic when hunting threads pop up here and so many bb are against it, yet most here consume more meat than normal humans.

I hunt for recreation and for meat. I mainly hunt deer and venison is a great lean protein. We have 2 deep freezers and we eat the venison year around. I'm not a fan of a lot of the 'canned' hunts or African safari hunts but I don't look down on them. As with all sports there's bad apples in it.

[SF1900]

I actually watched that video a few months ago, could not stop thinking about it  
and will not watch that damn Mexican chainsaw video.
Gooks suck ~!

I cant stand when animals get abused 

[Nirvana]

I've shot several spotted fawns and just left em' laying.

[doison]

I've shot several spotted fawns and just left em' laying.

Mortally wounded, but still alive to suffer the full brunt of death by blood-loss, or dead where they drop? 

[Nirvana]

Mortally wounded, but still alive to suffer the full brunt of death by blood-loss, or dead where they drop? 

got one with a 22 coming out of the womb.  the other a longbow. the second ran quite a ways

[Mr. Magoo]

If you kill an animal and eat it, that means you have replaced the meat you were going to buy in the store right? So if no additional animals are killed in the big slaughterhouses because of you not buying meat during that period, doesn't that make it equal? You get my point? Total number of animals killed are the same, if no one hunted, then more people would buy meat, and more animals would be killed by the industry. No?

I hope I don't seem obsessed but I try to respond to every post directed at me. Plus I've had the hunting argument many times before.

But I will say this to your post, I think I do get your point, and you're right, a meat eater who hates hunting yet buys dead animals in the grocery will have to paddle fast (as they say) to make that action justified using the "we shouldn't inflict unnecessary pain" argument.

At the worst, they would just be a hypocrite, but their claim that "Hunting is immoral" could still be true. Don't make the mistake (like many others have in this thread) of thinking Person A being a hypocrite has anything to do with the truth/falsity of Argument Z that person A made.

But yea you are right that the meat eating anti-hunter while claiming NOT to be a hypocrite has a lot of arguing to do, I will just say that it would be easier for the anti-hunting person to resort back to a pure vegan or vegetarian stance and argue from there.

Does that make any sense?

[Lord Humungous]

I love these homo girls that cry about killing bambi in between bites of their hamburger. The vegen queers fail to realize that every time grain is harvested in a field for their veggie diet animals are killed by the plow. You anti hunting queens need to get over it. If it bugs you so much stick to your high protein, man meat diets.

[Mr. Magoo]

I love these homo girls that cry about killing bambi in between bites of their hamburger. The vegen queers fail to realize that every time grain is harvested in a field for their veggie diet animals are killed by the plow. You anti hunting queens need to get over it. If it bugs you so much stick to your high protein, man meat diets.

is this another hypocrite argument?

If there is less unnecessary pain and suffering through the harvesting of grain, than by the factory farms or killing in the wild, then won't you agree that we need to persue the former and not the latter? You do accept that we should, as best as we can, try to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering? Or do you think pain and suffering is a good thing?

I'm typing this post while eating a hamburger patty along with some almonds. I'm being a hypocrite. I have contributed to the pain and suffering of a being that can feel pain that was completely unnecessary. I didn't have to eat this burger in front of me, there are other forms of calories that could keep me full for the rest of tonight. I have contributed to an immoral action. But I still believe that we have a moral duty to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering. That's still true despite what I do. I can smoke all the cigarettes that i want and still say "Smoking is unhealthy", and if somebody says "You're a hypocrite, you smoke!" then i could reply "so what? I'm a hypocite, but smoking is still unhealthy despite what I personally do"

[tonymctones]

is this another hypocrite argument?

If there is less unnecessary pain and suffering through the harvesting of grain, than by the factory farms or killing in the wild, then won't you agree that we need to persue the former and not the latter? You do accept that we should, as best as we can, try to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering? Or do you think pain and suffering is a good thing?

I'm typing this post while eating a hamburger patty along with some almonds. I'm being a hypocrite. I have contributed to the pain and suffering of a being that can feel pain that was completely unnecessary. I didn't have to eat this burger in front of me, there are other forms of calories that could keep me full for the rest of tonight. I have contributed to an immoral action. But I still believe that we have a moral duty to prevent unnecessary pain and suffering. That's still true despite what I do. I can smoke all the cigarettes that i want and still say "Smoking is unhealthy", and if somebody says "You're a hypocrite, you smoke!" then i could reply "so what? I'm a hypocite, but smoking is still unhealthy despite what I personally do"

LOL magoo if your against pain and suffering then you should be hunting and not buying your food from the super market.

you ever see how the cows and chickens we eat from the market live?

you ever see how the wild animals live?

you tell me which one has a better life?

it is hypocritical for a meat eater to chastise a hunter for hunting b/c the feel they are against unnecessary pain and suffering...EXTREMELY HYPOCRITICAL.

[Mr. Magoo]

LOL magoo if your against pain and suffering then you should be hunting and not buying your food from the super market.

you ever see how the cows and chickens we eat from the market live?

you ever see how the wild animals live?

you tell me which one has a better life?

it is hypocritical for a meat eater to chastise a hunter for hunting b/c the feel they are against unnecessary pain and suffering...EXTREMELY HYPOCRITICAL.

Do I REALLY have to explain why the "You're a hypocrite!" is stupid statement to make AGAIN? Are people on here really that stupid? Good lord, I've done it 4 times in this thread I think and people are still using that line like it is some valid logical objection that proves the position of said hypocrite to be false. IT DOESNT.

If I was CONSISTENT then I wouldn't buy meat at all. I think it is morally desireable to not buy meat at all. Why? Because it prevents unnecessary pain and suffering. I shouldn't be eating meat at all. My personal actions have nothing to do with the truth/falsity of my argument.