NYC arrest records: Many Occupy Wall Street protesters live in luxury

[Emmortal]

WRONG!   WRONG!   WRONG!


The first tea party protests were about all the bailouts and the media and far left liberal pieces of shit shat upon the Tea Party.    Tea Party protested ObamaCare, protested Cap & Trade, Protested Dodd Frank , etc etc.   


WHERE WERE THESE WHINERS THEN?   
     

The Tea Party started on the premise of bailouts, nothing else was even on the radar.  It wasn't until it was hijacked by the right that all that other shit came in.

You are falling hook line and sinker into what the right MSM wants you to believe about this movement.  Exactly the same thing the liberal media wanted people to believe about the Tea Party when it first started.

You're just too fucking dumb and too partisan to realize it.

[Soul Crusher]

The Tea Party started on the premise of bailouts, nothing else was even on the radar.  It wasn't until it was hijacked by the right that all that other shit came in.

You are falling hook line and sinker into what the right MSM wants you to believe about this movement.  Exactly the same thing the liberal media wanted people to believe about the Tea Party when it first started.

You're just too fucking dumb and too partisan to realize it.

LOL   



OWS is a joke.   They are a collection of communists, anarchists, socialists, eco-nazis, etc.   

[tu_holmes]

"Among addresses for which information is available, single-family homes listed on those police intake forms have a median value of $305,000 — a far higher number than the $185,400 median value of owner-occupied housing units in the United States."

Well duh, it's fucking NY, $305,000 will buy you a basement 1 room in the Bronx.

2 bedroom basement actually, but you're right, the bronx is more expensive than everywhere else.

[Emmortal]

OWS is a joke.   They are a collection of communists, anarchists, socialists, eco-nazis, etc.   

Yea because no media outlet would ever go down there and cherry pick people until they found some bat shit crazy person to fit their agenda.  As if the left wasn't doing the same thing when the Tea Party started?  It's exactly the same shit happening and OWS will end up being hijacked by the left just like the Tea Party was with the right.

This shit is too predictable.

[Soul Crusher]

Yea because no media outlet would ever go down there and cherry pick people until they found some bat shit crazy person to fit their agenda.  As if the left wasn't doing the same thing when the Tea Party started?  It's exactly the same shit happening and OWS will end up being hijacked by the left just like the Tea Party was with the right.

This shit is too predictable.

Very funny bro - I went down there myself in person.  From my phone. 

[Emmortal]

What's your point? There were people that latched on to the Tea Party when it started who had nothing to do with the original message either.  I'll just point you back to this post in another thread:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400364.msg5682684#msg5682684

[Soul Crusher]

What's your point? There were people that latched on to the Tea Party when it started who had nothing to do with the original message either.  I'll just point you back to this post in another thread:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=400364.msg5682684#msg5682684

So tell me exactly what the core message is and why they are not protesting Obama & Reid? ?     

[Skip8282]

So tell me exactly what the core message is and why they are not protesting Obama & Reid? ?     

He can't.  Another CT tard that has yet to substantiate any of his bullshit claims. 

[Soul Crusher]

He can't.  Another CT tard that has yet to substantiate any of his bullshit claims. 

These morons need to protest obama - tell me the issue these turds are complaining about various issues and they all have obama's hands all over them. 

[Emmortal]

He can't.  Another CT tard that has yet to substantiate any of his bullshit claims. 

"Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future."

It's easy for simple minded people such as yourself to attempt to label someone who disagrees with you because engaging in a discussion would be far too much work for what little brain matter you have sitting between your ears.

Now quick, turn on Fox news, you'll miss your daily dose of brain washing.

[Emmortal]

These morons need to protest obama - tell me the issue these turds are complaining about various issues and they all have obama's hands all over them. 

While I agree, they should be protesting Washington, as I've already stated, at least they are doing something instead of sitting on a message board and complaining.

[Skip8282]

"Occupy Wall Street is a people-powered movement that began on September 17, 2011 in Liberty Square in Manhattan’s Financial District, and has spread to over 100 cities in the United States and actions in over 1,500 cities globally. #ows is fighting back against the corrosive power of major banks and multinational corporations over the democratic process, and the role of Wall Street in creating an economic collapse that has caused the greatest recession in generations. The movement is inspired by popular uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia, and aims to expose how the richest 1% of people are writing the rules of an unfair global economy that is foreclosing on our future."

lol, thanks for proving my point tard.  Much appreciated.

He can't.  Another CT tard that has yet to substantiate any of his bullshit claims. 

It's easy for simple minded people such as yourself to attempt to label someone who disagrees with you because engaging in a discussion would be far too much work for what little brain matter you have sitting between your ears.

Now quick, turn on Fox news, you'll miss your daily dose of brain washing.

Yes, so far you've been calling people dumbasses, sheeple, etc. and accusing them of watching Fox...all so original. 

And still can't back up your bullshit.

Yep, that's some meaningful discussion. 

Well, maybe for someone on your level it is....my bad.

[Emmortal]

lol, thanks for proving my point tard.  Much appreciated.

Yes, so far you've been calling people dumbasses, sheeple, etc. and accusing them of watching Fox...all so original. 

And still can't back up your bullshit.

Yep, that's some meaningful discussion. 

Well, maybe for someone on your level it is....my bad.

I've never called anyone a dumbass, and yes you're a sheep for believing the same thing the liberal media was saying about the tea party that the right is saying about OWS.  Because you know, there wasn't any liberal media saying the teat party was just a bunch of old gun toting angry white people made about social security and medicare when those had nothing to do with anything the movement represented 

You called me a CT retard as your first retort to my post which is deserving of what I replied with.  You already dismissed yourself from any rational conversation with that comment, thus why you are just another sheep marching to the drum of the right wing media pulling your strings like a mindless puppet.  Now run along and have a nice day.

[Fury]

I've never called anyone a dumbass, and yes you're a sheep for believing the same thing the liberal media was saying about the tea party that the right is saying about OWS.  Because you know, there wasn't any liberal media saying the teat party was just a bunch of old gun toting angry white people made about social security and medicare when those had nothing to do with anything the movement represented  

You called me a CT retard as your first retort to my post which is deserving of what I replied with.  You already dismissed yourself from any rational conversation with that comment, thus why you are just another sheep marching to the drum of the right wing media pulling your strings like a mindless puppet.  Now run along and have a nice day.

What are you rambling about? I posted a study in 333's gigantic thread showing that the MSM coverage of this has been OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE. Not only that, but they’ve gotten ten-fold the amount of coverage that the Tea Party did.

Nothing in the media has been negative about this. The leftist media is completely infatuated with these people. They’ve done nothing but make excuses for their bullshit for a month now. Rape someone? Good luck hearing about it on the nightly news. Racist rant? Won’t hear about it. Rioting? Nothing to see here, move along folks.

The polls showing the far-left slant, the riots, the sexual assaults, the racism, the cries for wealth redistribution and on and on are doing wonders to shut down the stupid fucking argument you people keep trying to make.  

Try as you might to lie and convince us otherwise, this “movement” is nothing more than a union-controlled leftist meltdown. As the crashing poll numbers of people supporting it (down from nearly 50% to less than the Tea Party’s 31% now) show, the average American is tiring of this comical joke.



Oh, and both a Duke and UCLA professor have conducted studies showing that the MSM is heavily slanted to the left. Gallup polling of Americans shows that 50% of Americans believe the media to be 'too liberal' whereas something like 15% believe it to be 'too conservative'.

[Skip8282]

I've never called anyone a dumbass, and yes you're a sheep for believing the same thing the liberal media was saying about the tea party that the right is saying about OWS.  Because you know, there wasn't any liberal media saying the teat party was just a bunch of old gun toting angry white people made about social security and medicare when those had nothing to do with anything the movement represented 

You called me a CT retard as your first retort to my post which is deserving of what I replied with.  You already dismissed yourself from any rational conversation with that comment, thus why you are just another sheep marching to the drum of the right wing media pulling your strings like a mindless puppet.  Now run along and have a nice day.

Yes, the douchebag who can't back up his CT bullshit is calling other people sheep.

See you're still keeping it original.

Yes, regal us with stories of infiltrators and how much in the know you are. 

When you can actually put forth a cohesive and coherent argument without resorting to making shit up, let us know.  Otherwise...better keep that football helmet on.






Guideline #1 in full play. 


1.  Make Shit Up

Don't know what the fuck you're talking about?  Can't quite keep up with the conversation?  Or maybe you're just completely lost but want to contribute to the board anyway?

Don't worry, just make some shit up. 

It really looks impressive if you throw out some statistics too.  Do you know what the Vice President of Engineering for Cisco makes each year and pays in taxes?  Nope.  But it doesn't matter.  Just claim all rich people only pay 8% in taxes and that everybody else is getting screwed over.  It always looks good when you make shit up while portraying yourself as the underdog.

Do you really know how many people actually need food?  Have you been actively keeping up with abortion statistics in the United States?  Do you really follow oil futures?  Who cares?  Just make a claim and use a high enough percentage to be plausible, but low enough that nobody will probably question. 9 times out of 10, nobody's going to bother checking your bullshit.  If they do, just move to Rules #2-4.

[Emmortal]

Yes, the douchebag who can't back up his CT bullshit is calling other people sheep.

See you're still keeping it original.

Yes, regal us with stories of infiltrators and how much in the know you are. 

When you can actually put forth a cohesive and coherent argument without resorting to making shit up, let us know.  Otherwise...better keep that football helmet on.






Guideline #1 in full play. 


1.  Make Shit Up

Don't know what the fuck you're talking about?  Can't quite keep up with the conversation?  Or maybe you're just completely lost but want to contribute to the board anyway?

Don't worry, just make some shit up. 

It really looks impressive if you throw out some statistics too.  Do you know what the Vice President of Engineering for Cisco makes each year and pays in taxes?  Nope.  But it doesn't matter.  Just claim all rich people only pay 8% in taxes and that everybody else is getting screwed over.  It always looks good when you make shit up while portraying yourself as the underdog.

Do you really know how many people actually need food?  Have you been actively keeping up with abortion statistics in the United States?  Do you really follow oil futures?  Who cares?  Just make a claim and use a high enough percentage to be plausible, but low enough that nobody will probably question. 9 times out of 10, nobody's going to bother checking your bullshit.  If they do, just move to Rules #2-4.

When you can't argue about anything relevant, bring up a bunch of other topics that have nothing to do with the previous posts.

A simplistic tactic used by those that have no grounds to stand on.  Baseless name calling and inundating the topic with useless drivel that's irrelevant.  You bore me.

[Skip8282]

When you can't argue about anything relevant, bring up a bunch of other topics that have nothing to do with the previous posts.

A simplistic tactic used by those that have no grounds to stand on.  Baseless name calling and inundating the topic with useless drivel that's irrelevant.  You bore me.

You think because you make shit up it's relevant?


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA


Keep validating that mental retardation.

[Emmortal]

You think because you make shit up it's relevant?

AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Keep validating that mental retardation.

Making stuff up? Is Ron Paul making stuff up? - http://www.dailypaul.com/181788/occupy-wall-street-what-wars-and-socialism-for-corporations-is-costing-you

What is clear is that despite right-wing media organs labeling the Occupy Wall Street protesters as bums and socialists looking for a hand-out, given the bailouts, the trillions of dollars in non-market driven, essentially cost-plus defense contracting over the years, the gradual erosion of whatever mild progressiveness may have existed in the bewildering system of federal, state, and local taxes which must include ever-present write-offs, deductions, depletion allowances, and loopholes, the "hand-outs" in this country are not flowing downward. They are flowing upward.

Or maybe one of the many viral signs they are using straight out of their own mouths:



Or maybe straight from their list of demands, AGAIN, since you seem to think the 1% they are refering to is wealthy individuals, which it is not, and not the corporations who received bailouts which is clearly outlined straight from the protestors:

1. Repeal of the Patriot Act

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." — Fourth Amendment to the Constitution

Forty-five days after 9/11, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act without reading it. This new law was supposed to protect you from terrorism, but it has really left you unprotected against lawless federal agents. The Patriot Act contains numerous violations of the Fourth Amendment. It gives federal agents vast new powers that have been abused to investigate innocent Americans.

2. ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS

3. Forced Acquisition of the Federal Reserve for $1Billion

No Congress, no President has been strong enough to stand up to the foreign-controlled Federal Reserve Bank. Yet there is a catch - one that President Kennedy recognized before he was slain - the original deal in 1913 creating the Federal Reserve Bank had a simple backout clause. The investors loaned the United States Government $1 billion. And the backout clause allows the United States to buy out the system for that $1 billion. If the Federal Reserve Bank were demolished and the Congress of the United States took control of the currency, as required in the Constitution, the National Debt would virtually end overnight, and the need for more taxes and even the income tax, itself. Thomas Jefferson was concise in his early warning to the American nation, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Article I, Section 8, Clause 5, of the United States Constitution provides that Congress shall have the power to coin money and regulate the value thereof and of any foreign coins. But that is not the case. The United States government has no power to issue money, control the flow of money, or to even distribute it - that belongs to a private corporation registered in the State of Delaware - the Federal Reserve Bank.

4. Re Investigate the Attacks of 9-11-2001

More and more evidence is being released to the public surrounding the suspicious circumstances surrounding 911. This measure would be included in the list of demands to show that the original investigation was significantly flawed.

5. CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION

which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media.

6. End the War On Drugs

The war on drugs has been going on for more than three decades. Today, nearly 500,000 Americans are imprisoned on drug charges. In 1980 the number was 50,000. Last year $40 billion in taxpayer dollars were spent in fighting the war on drugs. As a result of the incarceration obsession, the United States operates the largest prison system on the planet, and the U.S. nonviolent prisoner population is larger than the combined populations of Wyoming and Alaska. 21 Sep 2011 - 15:17 21 Oct 2011 - 17:17 6570

7. Require all Corporations to have Labour Representatives on Company Boards


8. National Repeal of Capital Punishment


9. CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489 ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act#Repeal .


10. Outlaw flash trading

11. End Gender Discrimination - Equal Pay for Women

12. Office of the Citizen

13. The United States must sign and ratify all human rights agreements with all other countries

14. USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS

We want indictments and prosecutions of all crimes committed by banks, brokerage firms and insurance companies. We want a clear message sent to the entire financial industry, this will no longer be tolerated.

Or from another OWS site clearly stating they are not democratic and expressing concerns over being hijacked by the left:

http://october2011.org/blogs/kevin-zeese/tea-party-movement-and-occupy-movement-suffer-same-economic-insecurity-same-reason

The article below by Irving Wesley Hall shows that some of the original Tea Party members understood the damage of Wall Street and that they have much in common with the Occupy Movement.  Of course, the Tea Party movement has been hijacked by FOX News, the Republican Party and Republican operatives like Dick Armey; but we may find ourselves hijacked by Democratic Party operatives and media outlets.  All Americans are suffering from the same economic insecurity for the same reasons, and some Americans see it more clearly than others.

Economists from Zerohege disagree with you Skip, in fact, completely disagree with you, but somehow everyone else besides you is wrong and they are just a bunch of socialist tards wanting handouts, right? right? right?

http://www.zerohedge.com/guy-useful-idiots

So now the Occupy Wall Street protests have begun and the EXACT same thing is happening.  Yet this time most of the ridicule and contempt is spewing from what I would call “fake conservatives.”  The MSM of course is playing their traditional role as is to be expected.  Fortunately for me, I hold no attachment to any fake political party in America and I never have.  I stand for a free and fair market system for the economy, for a fierce defense of Constitutional rights in all circumstances NO MATTER WHAT threat we supposedly face, and a cessation of the brutal violence and war we perpetrate abroad.  As a result of this non-partisan stance I have an excellent group of friends and contacts across the entire ideological spectrum.  From this standpoint, I think I can see things for what they really are and what I am here to say is that Occupy Wall Street represents in part a rebellion within the Democratic Party (ie, the other side of the tea party coin).  This is why most of the attacks are coming from the “right” side of the fake political divide.  Just like the fake liberals couldn’t understand the tea party, the fake right can’t understand Occupy Wall Street.  This is alright.  It is all part of the process.  Next they will fight us.  Just like Gandhi said

Any more questions or would  you like for me to continue owning your simple little brainwashed mind? I can do this all day long, although I'd suggest backing out of this discussion since you have nothing to stand on.

[whork25]

So the protesters is poor job-less leaches and now they are rich

[Dos Equis]

4. Re Investigate the Attacks of 9-11-2001

More and more evidence is being released to the public surrounding the suspicious circumstances surrounding 911. This measure would be included in the list of demands to show that the original investigation was significantly flawed.

Seriously?  If this is one of their "demands" they will be completely marginalized.  They will absolutely not be taken seriously.  This can't be right. 

[tonymctones]

You know what's really funny? That the US government can practically shit on us with these ridiculous corporate bailouts that had no criteria, no oversight, and we watched those same corporate honchos getting million dollar golden parachutes, bonuses and when we complained, the government looked us in the eye and said "Well they had prior contracts that they must honor" and we DIDN't take to the streets in mass.. we DIDN'T protest, we DIDN'T do a damn thing. So while these people in these Occupy Whatever protests may be spinning their wheels, may be making a fool out of themselves for all of us brilliant folks to comment on... at least they did SOMETHING..   

what have they done?

theyve shown what utter hypocrites they are by protesting these corporations while using products and services from the very same ppl they are protesting.

If they want to make a difference they need to take a page out of the tea party's book and protest govt not wall street.

[andreisdaman]

So tell me exactly what the core message is and why they are not protesting Obama & Reid? ?     

thats the problem...they are NOT protesting Obama...thats whats really bugging the hell out of you

[tonymctones]

thats the problem...they are NOT protesting Obama...thats whats really bugging the hell out of you

lol, they arent protesting the problem only the symptom...

YES YOU MORON OBAMA IS PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!

he got more donations from wall street than any other candidate last election...

[andreisdaman]

lol, they arent protesting the problem only the symptom...

YES YOU MORON OBAMA IS PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!

he got more donations from wall street than any other candidate last election...

I don't see the tea party protesting the republican party for basically destroying our credit rating, and saying no to every single initiative that Obama  presents to try and help people..such as the jobs bill....they are misguided as well by your standards......

let OWS protest what they want to protest...who cares?

[tonymctones]

I don't see the tea party protesting the republican party for basically destroying our credit rating, and saying no to every single initiative that Obama  presents to try and help people..such as the jobs bill....they are misguided as well by your standards......

let OWS protest what they want to protest...who cares?

LMFAO so only the reps are to blame for the downgrade? got it geezzz youre delusional.

there are 15 jobs bills on the floor of the senate that they dems refuse to vote on.

why dont they vote on them?

why doesnt obama rant and rave for the senate to pick these bills up and vote on them?

its really sad to see your ignorance but then again as someone who thinks that black ppl that vote for obama b/c he is black has nothing to do with race I guess I cant really expect to much...