This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress

[dave19]

Very good post dyslexic .. only one thing to add to that :

Don't compare your bodybuilding progress with others all the time. It is a highly individual thing and the only thing that should matter to you is your own progress. Comparing yourself to someone who's got gorilla genes is only going to make you frustrated..

Also some people should check out on the pareto distribution .. it's pretty accurate for most aspects of life - the main statement is that you can get 80% of the success or gains with just 20% of the effort. Pretty much true for bodybuilding. Muscles are not everything , no point in putting in a huge extra effort just for 20% better success when a lot less effort will almost give you the same results.

[aesthetics]

Oh brotha! So, get into a debate, then when asked for proof, attack person. Yeah, so awesome. 

so get into a debate, then when asked to meet a conditional requirement before proof is presented, attack the person? your lips are moving and nothing valuable is coming out, i just want to change that by putting something valuable into your mouth, that's all. you'll get your proof, as the saying goes, the proof is in the pudding and i have loads of pudding for your stupid ass.

[Ursus]

Perfectly possible and also likely he is natural.

[apply85]

the black guys standing around looking like drug dealers who are huge are not natural

blacks in the ghetto want to get the hell out, especially when they are young, and since they dont relate to professionals like doctors or whatever, they take the sports way out and they understand very well that the rode to sports stardom is paved with steroids

I've seen it in the gym, 15 year old black kids passing pills to one another

this roids?

yeah das roids

you sure dis is roids bro?

yeah im sure guy!

13 year olds

that's how it goes, and dyslexic is anothe rguy who claims natural but isn't, he's just a small guy in general and passes it off well

[supernick]

im the first guy that will point out a liar, but this guy has a natural look to him.  The last pic in the gym he deff has a pump. Could be natural If hes 5-11 or taller.  Many of u havnt trained hard naturally with a good diet for for 7 years.

[mesmorph78]

A perfectly reasonable claim in my humble opinion.

the real question is why do they care... randomly surfing the net for guy who say there are natural then reposting the pics on these forms
the mods need to start deleting these garbage threads

[#1 Klaus fan]

im the first guy that will point out a liar, but this guy has a natural look to him.  The last pic in the gym he deff has a pump. Could be natural If hes 5-11 or taller.  Many of u havnt trained hard naturally with a good diet for for 7 years.

Good diet? Is that eat as much as you can or eat as little as you can?

[SaltShaker]

1 yr of lifting

3 years
 

7 years




dat ronnie coolman genetics??

sure.. his "after" picture doesnt look too freaky, it can certainly be acheievd.. and 7 years is a believable timeframe

[Borracho]

Looks better than me so he can't be natural.

[Cutlet767]

Guy looks average for a black person. Why the fuck do you fucktards believe this is impossible to achieve naturally? Barely even has abs lol. These are average negro genetics.

[jprc10]

Looks natural to me, I could believe it. No one will know whether or not he used drugs to achieve that physique, but in my opinion it is a naturally achievable build for someone with those genetics.

I forgot we are on getbig though, where a good physique isn't possible without drugs.
True naturals according to getbig standards:



 

[#1 Klaus fan]

Guy looks average for a black person. Why the fuck do you fucktards believe this is impossible to achieve naturally? Barely even has abs lol. These are average negro genetics.

Where were these genetics before steroids?

[Borracho]

^ Both on massive amounts of gh. You can tell by the over sized craniums.

[Mawse]

Not natural but he looks bigger because he has a child sized body as a life-support system for those overgrown arms.

 because he's black I would be more likely to believe his lies than some of the other genetic garbage on bodybuilding.com. There's a curry muncher on there who's juiced out of his mind but 'only' 200lbs because of terrible indian genetics. The guy has a flock of teenage skinnyfats who defend him to death everytime he's called out and in fact might even come here if I posted his photo

[kevcat]

That last pic is a pussy slaying physique.  Respect goes out to him even if he is a dirty liar.    

Yawn ! I wish men would stop saying other men have 'pussy slaying physique's' .This place gets gayer everyday

[Parker]

you have seriously no clue what you are talking about.

22, 27 or 34 he ain't natural.

after 3-5 years of training you ain't growing.

That is an emphatic statement, it could even be a "dogma" of sorts.

And you know that after 3-5 yrs of training, a person is NOT going to grow anymore?
I want to see the data to support this. Case studies, done on various diff people.

Maybe you didn't grow anymore.

[Galvatron]

That is an emphatic statement, it could even be a "dogma" of sorts.

And you know that after 3-5 yrs of training, a person is NOT going to grow anymore?
I want to see the data to support this. Case studies, done on various diff people.

Maybe you didn't grow anymore.

3-5 years of serious training as a natural

this does not necessarily mean year 1-5 of your whole training career.

[aussiepro]

fuck people on here are stupid, everyone claiming he isnt natural because he gained a couple of pounds in 7 years. i sometimes wonder if anyone on here has actually trained clean before getting on the gear. or if people actually know how to train and diet correctly. this look could be attained naturally in 7 years. im NOT saying he is natural i have no idea who the guy is and what if anything he is using, but this look could be achieved within 7 years of HARD training and proper EATING.

[abijahmaniaco]

3 and 7 year pics not natural. no question about 7 year pic. i trained for ten years straight as a natty balls to the wall. if you haven't done this then you don't know what's possible and what's not.

fuck people on here are stupid, everyone claiming he isnt natural because he gained a couple of pounds in 7 years.

no, not "a couple of pounds". stop playing it down. a couple of pounds is not even noticeable!

this look could be attained naturally in 7 years. im NOT saying he is natural i have no idea who the guy is and what if anything he is using, but this look could be achieved within 7 years of HARD training and proper EATING.

no, you absolutely max after four years. you will only maintain from that point on without exogenous hormones in the blood.

[supernick]

fuck people on here are stupid, everyone claiming he isnt natural because he gained a couple of pounds in 7 years. i sometimes wonder if anyone on here has actually trained clean before getting on the gear. or if people actually know how to train and diet correctly. this look could be attained naturally in 7 years. im NOT saying he is natural i have no idea who the guy is and what if anything he is using, but this look could be achieved within 7 years of HARD training and proper EATING.

thank u.... I agree

[aussiepro]

thank u.... I agree

finally someone with a bit of brains, if always gets me when someone posts a pic and everyone comes roaring out saying he is on this and on that. i really believe that there is a very very small group on here that actually train and eat and see results, the rest must just be wasting there time

[Stavios]

it's weird cause he looks pretty smooth tho

smooth everywhere and big ass tigh arms

[Palpatine Q]

I'm bigger and more muscular than him so i don't care

[el numero uno]

As natural as a gay guy getting anally fisted to death at a gay orgy.

lol

[kiwiol]

That is an emphatic statement, it could even be a "dogma" of sorts.

And you know that after 3-5 yrs of training, a person is NOT going to grow anymore?
I want to see the data to support this. Case studies, done on various diff people.

Maybe you didn't grow anymore.

Bingo. What he said is wrong and I know it for a fact from personal experience. Your gains will slow down, but won't stop altogether. There's always room for improvement for size & strength up until you hit your mid-late 40s.