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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2011, 08:18:12 AM »
Herman Cain told FOX News’ Greta Van Susteren on Monday night that any and all sexual harassment claims, past and future, were “baseless” and “not credible.”

Cain told the FOX host that he believed the claims were coming out now “because I’m doing so well in this Republican presidential campaign.”

“I’m in the top tier,” he said, adding that “a lot of people have a problem with the fact that I’m doing so well and I’m so likable.”

The awkward half-hour interview capped a long day of public appearances and shifting explanations over a report in Politico that the National Restaurant Association reached financial settlements with two women who claimed Cain had sexually harassed them.


Whereas earlier in the day, Cain said that he wasn’t aware there was any deal reached with any of the women in question, he told Van Susteren that in fact he was aware of one of the settlements.

According to Cain, his general counsel told him at the conclusion of the incident that “this started out where she and her lawyer were demanding a huge financial settlement — I dont remember the number… but then he said the good news is because there was no basis for this we ended up settling for what would have been a termination settlement, quite frankly, maybe three months salary or something like that.”


And what was awkward about the interview again? Cain's name isn't even on the agreement and, consistent with what the lawyer, Joe Bennett, found (when he finally got a copy of the agreement) Cain was gone with the settlement was reached.


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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2011, 08:19:21 AM »
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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #77 on: November 08, 2011, 08:19:54 AM »
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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #78 on: November 08, 2011, 08:20:22 AM »
Recap:

The settlement agreement between the National Restaurant Association and a woman who accused Herman Cain of sexual harassment was reached in September 1999--and was not signed by Cain himself, according to Joel Bennett, a lawyer for the woman.

Bennett, who has a copy of the settlement agreement, said four people signed it: the woman, two lawyers representing the association and Bennett himself.

Bennett said the agreement was resolved relatively quickly, about two or three months after she complained.

That means it may have been reached after Cain left the association, and Bennett said it's conceivable that Cain didn't even know about it.

Bennett also told CBS News Friday morning he is hoping to issue a public statement reaffirming the accuser's claim within hours, if the restaurant group agrees to ease the confidentiality agreement that was part of the deal.

Bennett plans to issue the statement in his name, not in his client's name. It will not identify her, nor will it detail specific events of sexual harassment or the amount of settlement.

"It will insist the complaints were in good faith, and she's going to stand by her complaints," Bennett told CBS News. "It's her response to Herman Cain's statements that the complaints are baseless."

Cain left the association June 30, 1999, according to the NRA. Under that timeline, Cain would have been gone when the settlement was reached--and may well have been gone when she filed the complaint.

Cain has insisted he only knew of one complaint, and says he knew of no legal settlements--only what he calls a severance agreement with one woman. This timeline could well bolster his claims.

When Cain ran to represent Georgia in the Senate four years later, he told his advisers there was one complaint against him at the Restaurant Association, and that it was "baseless." One former staffer on the Senate campaign told CBS News that he and other advisers in the campaign knew about that complaint and believed it was meritless, but thought it could crop up in possible opposition research.




http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57318500-503544/cain-did-not-sign-settlement-accusers-lawyer-says/


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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #79 on: November 08, 2011, 08:22:25 AM »
When Politico dropped a thinly sourced bombshell story about sexual harassment allegations against Cain back when he ran the National Restaurant Association, I thought it might actually help the former Godfather Pizza CEO. Anything would be better than trying to answer questions about his “9-9-9″ tax plan, I reasoned, and early this morning it looked as though Republicans were rallying around Cain as a victim of “liberal media.” Laura Ingraham suggested her talk show listeners should “Occupy Politico,” and Rush Limbaugh insisted the publication is racist. Listening to conservatives denounce Politico as liberal is great fun given Politico’s ties to the Republican Party.

But after refusing to answer Politico’s questions for at least 10 days, Cain began addressing the allegations on Monday, and as the old political cliché goes, the coverup, or the cover story, may wind up being worse than the crime. First he insisted he didn’t know about any settlements paid by the restaurant group.  “If the Restaurant Association did a settlement I wasn’t even aware of it and I hope it wasn’t for much because nothing happened,” Cain told Fox. Then he said he knew about the allegations and the settlements, but “recused himself” and let the group’s human relations director handle them. But Politico followed up with former HR director Mary Ose, who said she had nothing to do with handling any allegations against Cain. Told that Cain said she did, Ose insisted, “He did not say that.” When reporter Jonathan Martin read her Cain’s claims, Ose then replied, “You and I have talked and I have nothing to say.”

Toward the end of the day, Cain sat down with Fox’s Greta von Susteren and told a different and much more detailed story. He even remembered the women who made the claims; one worked in the communications department, and another in the governmental affairs division. He knew that the communications staffer had complained about a particular gesture, according to Byron York:

She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying — and I was standing close to her — and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife.  And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, ‘My wife comes up to my chin.’ And that was put in [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable… something that was in the sexual harassment charge.

(Note to male bosses: It’s really never a good idea to compare a female staffer to your wife.)

Cain also went from not knowing about a settlement to even knowing roughly how much money was involved. “Maybe three months’ salary.  I don’t remember.  It might have been two months,” he sold Van Susteren.  “I do remember my general counsel saying we didn’t pay all of the money they demanded.” Note that Cain isn’t saying he didn’t know about any of this, but he was briefed about the settlements today, after Politico broke the news; he’s now recounting memories he didn’t seem to have this morning.

Cain insisted he didn’t know anything about a sexual harassment allegation by the NRA governmental affairs staffer.  Politico reported it involved an “unwelcome sexual advance” while on a business trip to Chicago. Cain told Van Susteren, “When we were at the restaurant show, I was constantly talking with different staff members about different issues.  If I had a private conversation with her, I don’t recall it.” I thought it was interesting that Cain mentioned a specific “restaurant show,” when Politico didn’t specifically mention what the business trip in question involved. I’d look for Cain to recall more memories about that woman’s allegations as well in the days to come.

I don’t know what went on between Cain and the RGA staffers. Pro Publica’s Stephen Engelberg raises some good points about unanswered questions in the Politico “scoop.” Although the publication said it knew the names of the women who made the allegations, it didn’t share them. It relied entirely on anonymous sources, who mainly seemed to know about the charges secondhand. The allegations are almost 15 years old. And the news that the RGA made a settlement that was in “five figures” is suspicious. Engelberg asks:

Were the settlements $99,999 each (to borrow some of Cain’s favorite numbers)? Or a buck more than $9,999? The former would suggest, but not prove, that something seriously untoward had occurred. The latter would sound like what lawyers term nuisance settlements – the money corporations routinely shell out to make frivolous claims go away.

But Cain’s handling of the allegations is making the Politico scoop an even more legitimate story. Once again, he can’t get his facts straight; he doesn’t even seem to think he needs to. Cain seems to think he can treat the facts about the sexual harassment charges as haphazardly as he treats the facts about his “9-9-9″ plan. Like it or not, the media seem to care more about sex stories than tax fairness, and Cain may pay for his sloppiness this time. Will his anyone-but-Romney supporters care? We’re about to find out.

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #80 on: November 08, 2011, 08:24:59 AM »
"an independent private investigator, who wishes to remain  anonymous at this time"


To be clear - a private eye who was able to prove this would be the greatest private eye in american politicla history.

You're believing anonymous unsourced claims about secret bank accounts - but completely discounting the word of 3 anonymous claimants?

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #81 on: November 08, 2011, 08:29:27 AM »
"an independent private investigator, who wishes to remain  anonymous at this time"


To be clear - a private eye who was able to prove this would be the greatest private eye in american politicla history.

You're believing anonymous unsourced claims about secret bank accounts - but completely discounting the word of 3 anonymous claimants?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm

Ummm.......what part of the word "rumored" don't you get? Supposedly, this source plans to come forward when she has "empiricial evidence" that this went down.

As for the word of three anonymous claimants, what "word" would that be? That's precisely why the Politico story fizzled. There were NO SPECIFICS of what Cain supposedly said or did. And all three of them were either cleared to talk or had nothing to stop them from doing so, in the first place.

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #82 on: November 08, 2011, 08:31:13 AM »
rush told him it's true  :D

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #83 on: November 08, 2011, 08:48:35 AM »
Cain Accuser Sharon Bialek Lived In Same Building As David Axelrod
Real Clear Politics ^ | 11-08-2011 | Fox News



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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #84 on: November 08, 2011, 08:51:07 AM »
whats your point

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #85 on: November 08, 2011, 08:53:21 AM »
whats your point


This woman is a lying cvnt and is being used to divert attention away from the disaster presidency of maobama who is embarassing the nation in Europe, collapsing the economy, collapsing the American business spirit, etc. 



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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2011, 08:57:14 AM »
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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2011, 09:02:27 AM »

This woman is a lying girls and is being used to divert attention away from the disaster presidency of maobama who is embarassing the nation in Europe, collapsing the economy, collapsing the American business spirit, etc. 




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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2011, 09:16:30 AM »
I guess any woman who has ever declared bankruptcy is fair game for harassment huh?

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2011, 09:28:47 AM »
I guess any woman who has ever declared bankruptcy is fair game for harassment huh?

Damage control in full effect hahaha

Watch the GOP run!

Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred?  And why did she wait 15 years?

None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?  

See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.  

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2011, 09:33:41 AM »
he should take a polygraph.   hopefully he is doing that today and releasing the results today.

or, he's writing a speech about being the victim, delivering vague speech of "no harassment by any legal definition has taken place..."

Play lawyerball with people.  They love that shit.   What the definition of "is" is.  Run with that.

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2011, 09:34:14 AM »
Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred?  And why did she wait 15 years?

None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?  

See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.  

Hugging a guy who tried to sexually assault her 14 years ago? Yep, that makes sense.

Credibility? You mean like her history of screwing her bosses (i.e. the one that fathered her 13-year-old boy, who sued her for joint custody for that boy after dropping a settlement deal, once his wife left him)?


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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2011, 09:38:02 AM »
Why was she hugging Cain a month ago, years after the sexual assault she is claiming now, occurred?  And why did she wait 15 years?

None of that bothers you in the least bit or even cause you to raise any questions regarding her credibility?  

See folks, this is why liberals and Democratic party nuthuggers are the stupidest people in the world.  

Jennifer Flowers tapes - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH

Monica blue dress - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH

Wiener in a photo - WIENER TELLING THE TRUTH

Bielak hugging Cain a month ago - CAIN LYING



Got it yet?   


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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2011, 09:47:01 AM »
Jennifer Flowers tapes - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH

Monica blue dress - CLINTON TELLING THE TRUTH

Wiener in a photo - WIENER TELLING THE TRUTH

Bielak hugging Cain a month ago - CAIN LYING



Got it yet?   


To be a democrat in todays age means being the biggest sucker on the planet. 

Bialek, not telling her father or her boyfriend 14 years ago - but Cain's lying?


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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2011, 09:48:51 AM »
Report: Bialek Fired from NRA for False Accustations of Sexual Assault
Many bloggers via Pat Dollard ^ | 11-8-11 | toro520




Report: Bialek Fired from NRA for False Accustations of Sexual Assault November 8th, 2011 (3) Posted By Toro520.

One might be asking themselves why Ms. Bialek was fired from the National Restaurant Association. After all, being fired, quite unlike simply being laid off, is a serious issue with serious ramifications; since leaving the Restuarant Association, Ms. Bialek has been unable to maintain regular employment. So why was this woman let go? Why has it seemingly affected her ability to remain employed for so long?

Perhaps it might have something to do with the reason she was fired from the National Restaurant Association…

FILING FALSE CLAIMS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT

“She was fired from her job, and her boyfriend suggested she contact Cain in hopes he could help her find employment.”.

In this particular incident she was fired for falsely accusing her boss of sexual harassment, a charge denied by co-workers, as well as being pretty much a pain in the ass to work with.

“I remember her as a time-waster, and rabble-rouser. If she didn’t get her way she cried about sexual harassment”. A former co-worker, a female no less, emailed me. “She was trouble with a capital “T”. The fact that she waited 13 years and never said a word not even during Cain’s earlier forays into politics. She only now magically appears because Cain is leading in some polls and proving a threat to Barack Obama?


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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2011, 09:51:18 AM »
Source that claim, 333386.

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2011, 09:56:39 AM »
http://patdollard.com/2011/11/bialek-deconstructed-accustations-quickly-erode-under-scrutiny



why isn't FOX picking up on the story?
Why isn't cain's campaign tweeting this out a mile a minute.

because you just posted a link that doesn't cite the source - they don't tell us "so-and-so said".

Who said that?  Proof?  I'm seeing a couple of blogs citing each other.  This is the story of the year. 

i don't wanna call bullshit, 33, but you gotta source us with the person making the quote please.

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #98 on: November 08, 2011, 10:00:49 AM »
Hugging a guy who tried to sexually assault her 14 years ago? Yep, that makes sense.

Credibility? You mean like her history of screwing her bosses (i.e. the one that fathered her 13-year-old boy, who sued her for joint custody for that boy after dropping a settlement deal, once his wife left him)?


There is more than one?
Here is the thing, she may not have been attracted to Cain---that is the thing about "sexual harassment", if a woman is attracted to the man, what he says may not be offensive to her, and what he does, she may go along with it.

What happens with custody is just that...and by the way it takes two to tango...that CEO and her had that. Women have been screwing their bosses forever. The problem is, if they are not attracted to a certain boss, and he thinks he can get some of the pie.

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Re: Who is Cain accuser Sharon Bialek?
« Reply #99 on: November 08, 2011, 10:21:03 AM »
There is more than one?
Here is the thing, she may not have been attracted to Cain---that is the thing about "sexual harassment", if a woman is attracted to the man, what he says may not be offensive to her, and what he does, she may go along with it.

What happens with custody is just that...and by the way it takes two to tango...that CEO and her had that. Women have been screwing their bosses forever. The problem is, if they are not attracted to a certain boss, and he thinks he can get some of the pie.

It's called synecdoche, a figure of speech where the plural can be used for the singular or vice versa.

Case in point, you say you have children. But, it turns out actually have one kid. Is your statement accurate?

In one case, it is....IF the point of the question is to establish your possession of offspring.

Same goes here. Even if Bialek humped just one head honcho, she has a history of screwing her bosses, for the purposes of this discussion.