The biggest losers are the ones that tell kids to take alot of drugs to acheive a muscular physique. Everyone should train for 5 yrs before they even think of a steroid. Without building a base they will always be on a roller-coaster of drug use their whole life.
Granted the ifbb pros may need ridiculous cycles but who the hell wants to look like that? Bloated cartoon freaks that repulse people wherever they go

Go see wes's "Mecca" thread for some acheivable physiques.....yes they may have used steroids but god gawd 5 other chemicals have been invented since then.
And do you guys notice you follow like sheep when gh15 says "Up the dose". Do you realize hes a drug dealer and says he controls the supply thru the steroid boards....so ask yourself who profits "Moneywise" when he says you need 5 times more than your on...He does, thats who!
Stay clean and make it a life-long journey thats a hobby and youll be better in the long run,
