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Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« on: November 29, 2011, 12:42:29 PM »
This guy is 240 and looks like a pro bodybuilder and he does something called "muscle ups" which look way harder than regular pull ups (not the diaper).




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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 12:44:29 PM »
This guy is 240 and looks like a pro bodybuilder and he does something called "muscle ups" which look way harder than regular pull ups (not the diaper).





Wow this is really a full upper body workout in one exercise.... 8)

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 12:46:51 PM »
The ethos for most bodybuilders is to focus on training musces individually, not together.  As they are growing and getting heavier they are not traning dynamic movements (like a muscle up) so to expect them to actually able to perform a movement they probably haven't  done since they were considerably lighter when having done no specific training in these areas is unrealistic.
Bodybuilders usually are training for appearance not functionality.
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 12:47:31 PM »
Kali spent years in California state prisons perfecting the muscleup and other bodyweight exercises.

While is a non athletic steroid abuser with "show muscles" that have nothing behind them.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 12:53:15 PM »
because they get used to hang in trees for a long time

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 12:57:34 PM »
Kali spent years in California state prisons perfecting the muscleup and other bodyweight exercises.

While is a non athletic steroid abuser with "show muscles" that have nothing behind them.

Is Kali natural?

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 01:03:43 PM »
Is Kali natural?

As natural as these. ( and yes id hit it )


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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 01:14:19 PM »
BBers usually have much much bigger lower and overall bodies than that guy, who has all his weight in arms/chest...harder to lift up

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 01:20:09 PM »
because they get used to hang in trees for a long time

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Hahaha...  :-\

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 01:23:21 PM »

I don't know the science behind it, but this is another one of those areas where women mysteriously seem to be able to outperform the men relative to the amount of test in their systems. 

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 01:24:51 PM »
because they get used to hang in trees for a long time

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Yeah, that's why Tarzan is very good at it too...

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 02:01:39 PM »
because most men (bbers) are ego trainers
chins are a bitch to do so they avoid them prefering to put the pin at the bottom of the stack lean back and yank the weight down....
then they use the excuse because i weigh X amount now i cant do pull ups ..... nonsense...
i do the same amount of chins as i used to do when i was 50 lbs less....
in my gym the chinning bar is always empty and accessible... in contrast you can NEVER get the pull down station or cable crossover station..
like i said guys are lazy .... and look for the easiest way to work out... where as the old school bbers looked for the hard stuff ...
coleman arnold etc etc..
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 02:07:31 PM »
Bodybuilders are unbeatable at glute pulls - which also happen to be good for the wallet.
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 02:07:58 PM »
Also: That's probably not Jay's first exercise / set, knowing him he does a shit load of volume. At the end part of a training session chins get a bit difficult. And Kali is comparatively all upper body, no legs.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 02:08:04 PM »
Bodybuilders are unbeatable at glute pulls - which also happen to be good for the wallet.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2011, 02:34:00 PM »
Bodybuilders are unbeatable at glute pulls - which also happen to be good for the wallet.


lol,

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2011, 04:56:07 PM »
Also: That's probably not Jay's first exercise / set, knowing him he does a shit load of volume. At the end part of a training session chins get a bit difficult. And Kali is comparatively all upper body, no legs.
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 04:59:31 PM »
BBers usually have much much bigger lower and overall bodies than that guy, who has all his weight in arms/chest...harder to lift up
Kali is a national level competitive bodybuilder.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2011, 05:07:59 PM »
arnold use to do chins...
these pros nowadays are lazy....
they will do anything to get around doing hard work.... thats why coleman whupped there azz for many years ... and he still hasnt been surpassed....
that show of chins by jay is a disgrace....
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2011, 05:11:55 PM »
arnold use to do chins...
these pros nowadays are lazy....
they will do anything to get around doing hard work.... thats why coleman whupped there azz for many years ... and he still hasnt been surpassed....
that show of chins by jay is a disgrace....


Spot on. I laugh when some of the guys here say lifting is irrelevant and it's all about the drugs you take. That might be right if you want to look like the bloated meat bags that pass for pros nowadays, but if you're juicing, you're better off lowering the dosage and lifting harder/heavier, so your muscle quality looks more like that of the guys from the 70s, who had the best look, IMO.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2011, 05:21:45 PM »
not that hard using a bar. try em on rings. mucho mas dificil. crossfit style.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2011, 05:23:32 PM »
never watched that cutler chinning vid before. I wonder how much  benefit he got from those half assed assisted reps, what a joke.

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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2011, 05:26:13 PM »
Spot on. I laugh when some of the guys here say lifting is irrelevant and it's all about the drugs you take. That might be right if you want to look like the bloated meat bags that pass for pros nowadays, but if you're juicing, you're better off lowering the dosage and lifting harder/heavier, so your muscle quality looks more like that of the guys from the 70s, who had the best look, IMO.

exactly..
in actual fact these guys ...movment and functionality is just like an obese person... in most cases they look obese....
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2011, 05:32:35 PM »
never watched that cutler chinning vid before. I wonder how much  benefit he got from those half assed assisted reps, what a joke.

hany probably told him these stress the back more... (being facetious here) ::)
 
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Re: Why Do Pro Bodybuilders Struggle With Pull Ups/Chin Ups?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2011, 05:37:33 PM »
jay trains high volume and weighs 300 pounds. he probably already did tons of rows and pulldowns before he did the chins which is a kind of dumb order to do them in but whatever, not like it matters when he's on $50,000 worth of hgh and gear a year