insane pic of coleman 2003

[NarcissisticDeity]

His bottom half is fine and he's not even completed the pose in the top half, giving the illusion that he's softer. Next time, try posting a pic when he's fully flexed everywhere and give your opinion. You know better than that...

Are you seriously attempting to claim Ronnie wasn't soft in 04? and BTW he was fully flexed in that pic , I know I've watched the video

here is Ronnie 98 compared 03 both fully flexed and he's softer in 03 than 98 the difference is blatant and the discrepancy is even more so in 04

[hench]

yep, nowhere near as deeply defined, he looked glossy and smooth in 03

Are you seriously attempting to claim Ronnie wasn't soft in 04? and BTW he was fully flexed in that pic , I know I've watched the video

here is Ronnie 98 compared 03 both fully flexed and he's softer in 03 than 98 the difference is blatant and the discrepancy is even more so in 04

[Immortal_Technique]

This pic is interesting, I know the left Ronnie is more shredded but which Ronnie would win this pose?

[QuakerOats]

This pic is interesting, I know the left Ronnie is more shredded but which Ronnie would win this pose?

looks better by a mile in the first pic from 98.

[purenaturalstrength]

This pic is interesting, I know the left Ronnie is more shredded but which Ronnie would win this pose?

left pic had more flattering lighting

[NarcissisticDeity]

This pic is interesting, I know the left Ronnie is more shredded but which Ronnie would win this pose?

According to the criteria 1998 , drier , harder , and more detailed , and he has better balance & proportion , in 03 all of his strong points were amplified , his quads blew up making his calves look even smaller , his gut was insane , etc

Ronnie has said many times 98 was his best Olympia showing because he was spot-on

[Immortal_Technique]

Yeah but in real life who would win?

Bob Paris never won the Olympia, Munzer never won the Olympia, neither came particularly close despite their amazing shape and conditioning. Markus Ruhl came closer than either in their respective careers. So..... application of the criteria is clearly a subjective thing.

Dex has generally always been harder and drier etc than Ronnie..... but if you are a lot thicker in every muscle group plus still have the most shredded glutes and hams on stage then what choice do the judges have?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yeah but in real life who would win?

Bob Paris never won the Olympia, Munzer never won the Olympia, neither came particularly close despite their amazing shape and conditioning. Markus Ruhl came closer than either in their respective careers. So..... application of the criteria is clearly a subjective thing.

Dex has generally always been harder and drier etc than Ronnie..... but if you are a lot thicker in every muscle group plus still have the most shredded glutes and hams on stage then what choice do the judges have?

Ronnie 1998 would win in ' real life '

We're comparing Ronnie to Ronnie not anyone else. 1998/2001 are considered his all-time best because he was spot-on condition-wise

stop confusing ' thicker ' with better Ronnie 03 was a deserving winner but he was eons better lighter

[Nirvana]

I was at the 03 Olympia prejudging sittin 3 seats away from Dorian.  He said quote "Goddamn man."  when Ronnie walked out. When Lee Priest walked out with those hair extensions Dorian also said quote "His body must think he's a woman with that hair, look at all that water retention." True story.

see but that's just a memory of yours and not reality.  also dorian is not a judge and therefore knows nothing about bodybuilding.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look at 98 compared to 04 the difference in quality , detail and conditioning is staggering

[Nirvana]

Look at 98 compared to 04 the difference in quality , detail and conditioning is staggering

there is clearly a "muscletime" logo in the top right corner.  In real life that would not be there so this is not a good representation of reality.

[NarcissisticDeity]

see but that's just a memory of yours and not reality.  also dorian is not a judge and therefore knows nothing about bodybuilding.

Dorian has always been complementary towards Ronnie , said he was only one of the few guys who really impressed him after he retired.

[NarcissisticDeity]

there is clearly a "muscletime" logo in the top right corner.  In real life that would not be there so this is not a good representation of reality.

This is reality 

[Nirvana]

This is reality  

different lighting, different time, not on stage together at the same time standing the same distance apart.  and you're not a judge.


WAIT  are you saying you can clearly see that ronnie is bigger in the color picture despite the fact that it is not "reality"?

[Immortal_Technique]

Ronnie 1998 would win in ' real life '

We're comparing Ronnie to Ronnie not anyone else. 1998/2001 are considered his all-time best because he was spot-on condition-wise

stop confusing ' thicker ' with better Ronnie 03 was a deserving winner but he was eons better lighter

I'm not disputing which is better, rather which would win a modern day Olympia. Everyone knows Jay is a fridge and Dexter had a better back and was more shredded for years, but only meant anything on the one occasion, because Jay was so much bigger.


As Jay said after 2003, it is bodyBUILDING after all. Thickness is pretty important you know. And you also underestimate the importance of shredded glutesand hams.

[NarcissisticDeity]

different lighting, different time, not on stage together at the same time standing the same distance apart.  and you're not a judge.


WAIT  are you saying you can clearly see that ronnie is bigger in the color picture despite the fact that it is not "reality"?

This is NOT reality , this is laughable , this appeals to fanboys like yourself who think this would be reality

[Immortal_Technique]

Dorian has always been complementary towards Ronnie , said he was only one of the few guys who really impressed him after he retired.

Indeed. He even went as far as saying Ronnie would probably win if they competed at the their respective bests. Of course you were in his brain at the time and also wrote the article so you know what he really meant and that the context was imperceptably totally different to how it came across.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm not disputing which is better, rather which would win a modern day Olympia. Everyone knows Jay is a fridge and Dexter had a better back and was more shredded for years, but only meant anything on the one occasion, because Jay was so much bigger.


As Jay said after 2003, it is bodyBUILDING after all. Thickness is pretty important you know. And you also underestimate the importance of shredded glutesand hams.

You're putting WAY , WAY to much emphasis on shredded glutes and hams. It all depends on who you're competing with , I think either version of Ronnie (98/03) would beat Heath

[NarcissisticDeity]

Indeed. He even went as far as saying Ronnie would probably win if they competed at the their respective bests. Of course you were in his brain at the time and also wrote the article so you know what he really meant and that the context was imperceptably totally different to how it came across.

He also said he didn't know and it was a very hard question to answer. We also know Ronnie said Dorian would beat him at least 3 times 

[Shockwave]

Look at 98 compared to 04 the difference in quality , detail and conditioning is staggering

Looks like shit, honestly in 04 he doesnt even look that much bigger than 98, except in the quads, stomach, delts, but the loss of conditioning and the gut is NOT worth the added thigh and delt size.

I cant believe I actually thought Ronnie looked good in 04 when I first started following bodybuilding.
98 = teh win.
04 = needs to commit suicide.

[Immortal_Technique]

Ronnie's head appears smaller, his feet are slightly higher than Dorian's if anything it's a tad biased towards Dorian scale-wise, who is getting killed there.

[Shockwave]

His bottom half is fine and he's not even completed the pose in the top half, giving the illusion that he's softer. Next time, try posting a pic when he's fully flexed everywhere and give your opinion. You know better than that...

Dude, quit being blind, he looks like utter garbage in 04, hes soft everywhere, terribad balance... just huge and soft.

[aesthetics]

This is reality 

wow, his physique is absolutely perfect in the first picture. he should have never touched insulin

[Shockwave]

Ronnie's head appears smaller, his feet are slightly higher than Dorian's if anything it's a tad biased towards Dorian scale-wise, who is getting killed there.

You really think a pic where Ronnies calves appear the same size or bigger as Dorians is biased towards Dorians favor?

[Immortal_Technique]

He also said he didn't know and it was a very hard question to answer. We also know Ronnie said Dorian would beat him at least 3 times 

Fail.