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crossroads - Guitar Duel
« on: December 03, 2011, 10:58:24 AM »
Legendary scene from the 1986 movie "crossroads"

Guitar hero Steve Vai and the Karate kid Ralph Macchio go head to head trading guitar solos. Eventually Macchio pulls out this incredible classically inspired piece.


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Re: crossroads - Guitar Dual
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 10:59:12 AM »
nothing worse than being the bass player, standing between two jerkoffs having a volume duel on lead guitar.

STFU and let me slap/pop fellahs.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Dual
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 11:01:38 AM »
nothing worse than being the bass player, standing between two jerkoffs having a volume duel on lead guitar.

STFU and let me slap/pop fellahs.
Tell them switch from "distorted" to clean, you'll see who has the superior technique

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 11:04:42 AM »
Tell them switch from "distorted" to clean, you'll see who has the superior technique


It's like I wish I had a nice decibel meter, so we could see each guy slowly bumping up their levels with their pinkie when it's their turn.

Imagine "Fight for your Right" by beastie boys with 2 lead guitarists shredding over A at the same time.  *shudder*

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 11:30:12 AM »
Ralph's solo on the tele is pretty clean really I reckon, all natural valve gain. Ry Cooder, who's doing the actual playing, was no fret wanking shredder really, proper dopper guitar playing.

I always wonder how Vai felt having to pretend not to be able to do that bend at the end.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 11:42:15 AM »
Ralph's solo on the tele is pretty clean really I reckon, all natural valve gain. Ry Cooder, who's doing the actual playing, was no fret wanking shredder really, proper dopper guitar playing.

I always wonder how Vai felt having to pretend not to be able to do that bend at the end.
Ry Cooder really ? I always thought Vai did both...

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Dual
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 02:04:38 PM »
nothing worse than being the bass player, standing between two jerkoffs having a volume duel on lead guitar.

STFU and let me slap/pop fellahs.

hi bass player
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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 02:27:23 PM »
Ry Cooder really ? I always thought Vai did both...

Vai played the classical piece at the end, inspired by Paganini's various Caprices, mostly number 5 but there's other parts of the remaining Caprices too, while Ry Cooder did the more bluesier slide work and the basic stuff compared to Vai who took over at the end.

Arlen Roth (founder of Hot Licks Videos, if you remember those) was supposed to be the guy that Vai got but when they found Vai, the rest as they say, is history. 


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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 03:18:54 PM »
Ha ha! Vai was ecstatic at the thought of making a movie. He bent the note alright, he just didn't bend it the way he would have in the studio or on stage. He tried to fake mistakes throughout the solo, but there is actually a guy on Youtube that calls his videos by the name of "shred" and he is really good at playing like he can't... look for : Steve Vai shreds, EVH shreds, Slash shreds.. you'll see what I mean.

Steve got to play the epitome of a rock star on the biggest stage in the world... a classic movie.


Steve wrote, composed, taught and performed most of the music, much like he did for Frank Zappa back in the day.


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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 04:03:19 PM »
I play Eugene's Trick Bag daily during my practice regimen. That, and Flight of the Bumblebee.
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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 04:08:35 PM »
Vai played the classical piece at the end, inspired by Paganini's various Caprices, mostly number 5 but there's other parts of the remaining Caprices too, while Ry Cooder did the more bluesier slide work and the basic stuff compared to Vai who took over at the end.

Arlen Roth (founder of Hot Licks Videos, if you remember those) was supposed to be the guy that Vai got but when they found Vai, the rest as they say, is history.  



I did not know this. It does go noticeable more fiddly diddly on the final solo, so I guess that would make sense.

I have the Michael Angelo hotlicks vid! haha, supposedly the biggest selling one.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 04:10:06 PM »
but there is actually a guy on Youtube that calls his videos by the name of "shred" and he is really good at playing like he can't... look for : Steve Vai shreds, EVH shreds, Slash shreds.. you'll see what I mean.

That is awesome.   ;D

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 04:11:01 PM »
Ha ha! Vai was ecstatic at the thought of making a movie. He bent the note alright, he just didn't bend it the way he would have in the studio or on stage. He tried to fake mistakes throughout the solo, but there is actually a guy on Youtube that calls his videos by the name of "shred" and he is really good at playing like he can't... look for : Steve Vai shreds, EVH shreds, Slash shreds.. you'll see what I mean.

Steve got to play the epitome of a rock star on the biggest stage in the world... a classic movie.


Steve wrote, composed, taught and performed most of the music, much like he did for Frank Zappa back in the day.




So Steve Vai wrote, taught, composed and performed most of Zappa's music? ? .....

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 05:39:18 PM »

So Steve Vai wrote, taught, composed and performed most of Zappa's music? ? .....

I'm not sure how much he wrote, co-wrote or what have you, but he was in Zappa's band for quite awhile.

Check out Vai's website, I thought it was interesting. One thing I particularly remember about it was how Vai described two of his bands; (iirc) Vai and Whitesnake (which he was in for a short time but not on the famous recordings). Vai he said the band of his own name "was what it was." In the next picture of him with Whitesnake the caption read "it wasn't what it was." ;D

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 06:02:13 PM »
I'm not sure how much he wrote, co-wrote or what have you, but he was in Zappa's band for quite awhile.

Check out Vai's website, I thought it was interesting. One thing I particularly remember about it was how Vai described two of his bands; (iirc) Vai and Whitesnake (which he was in for a short time but not on the famous recordings). Vai he said the band of his own name "was what it was." In the next picture of him with Whitesnake the caption read "it wasn't what it was." ;D

I saw VAI at a small club when Devin Townsend was the singer.  That was a great concert and album.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 07:08:37 PM »
I saw VAI at a small club when Devin Townsend was the singer.  That was a great concert and album.

Now THAT would have been something to see.
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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 09:09:32 PM »
Steve Vai did more for Zappa than he will ever admit.. and vice versa. Steve Vai is a musical genius and he doesn't brag about it ~ except through his playing.

And for the record, not only did he transpose and write for Frank Zappa, he also came up with many of his own tunes at that time. The problem was: Vai was a childhood prodigy and was not allowed into clubs at his young age.

Read between the lines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Vai

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 11:26:40 PM »
steve vai is probably the best all round guitarist in the world.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2011, 12:02:45 AM »
I can play  this its not technical just fast.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2011, 12:18:31 AM »
Steve Vai did more for Zappa than he will ever admit.. and vice versa. Steve Vai is a musical genius and he doesn't brag about it ~ except through his playing.

And for the record, not only did he transpose and write for Frank Zappa, he also came up with many of his own tunes at that time. The problem was: Vai was a childhood prodigy and was not allowed into clubs at his young age.

Read between the lines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Vai

He also taught Dweezil Zappa, how to play all the fast legato techniques. Here is Dweezil demonstrating how to play eruption note for note.



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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2011, 12:23:14 AM »
He also taught Dweezil Zappa, how to play all the fast legato techniques. Here is Dweezil demonstrating how to play eruption note for note.



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great video there!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2011, 12:29:51 AM »
He also taught Dweezil Zappa, how to play all the fast legato techniques. Here is Dweezil demonstrating how to play eruption note for note.



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Dweezil is awesome.  I started listening to him with "My Guitar want to kill your mamma" way back in the day.  Everyone else was into Iron Maiden but me and my buddy would find the obscure.

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2011, 12:41:44 AM »
He also taught Dweezil Zappa, how to play all the fast legato techniques. Here is Dweezil demonstrating how to play eruption note for note.



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that was cool, not quite as fluid as eddie but they have the tone setup down very well 

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2011, 12:46:54 AM »
that was cool, not quite as fluid as eddie but they have the tone setup down very well 

Dweezil, is Dweezil, & Eddie is Eddie.

I have never seen a youtube vid of some bedroom guitar hero that gets as close as that.
Dweezil, nails it. & the Eddie story before the shred is pretty fucking funny also  ;D

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Re: crossroads - Guitar Duel
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2011, 02:31:20 AM »