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No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« on: December 22, 2011, 09:13:36 PM »
Must be the same kind of reasoning that leads to this idiocy...

"- 41 percent of African-Americans list Michael Vick as their favorite quarterback"

"Vick was voted the NFL's least popular quarterback, with 26 percent of the vote, beating out Ben Roethlisberger's 15 percent."

LOL seriously Vick is your fav qb?

cue andre, lurker and KC to call me racist

Andreisadousche: "black ppl vote for obama b/c he is black but race has nothing to do with it"

Im sure vicks race has nothing to do with him getting 41% of the black vote right?



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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2011, 05:04:59 AM »
And they thought oj was framed. 

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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 10:45:56 AM »
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Ohio unemployment falls, but so does support for Obama


Even though the economy looks better, many blue-collar workers seem less inclined to vote for him this time around.
By Alana Semuels, Los Angeles Times


January 3, 2012

Reporting from Canton, Ohio

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Reg Rozell and Kim C. Sweitzer seem like they'd be sure-fire Obama 2012 supporters.

Both have good-paying union jobs at a busy steel mill here and are benefiting from a manufacturing surge that's keeping their employer operating three shifts and granting overtime to whoever wants it.

But though both voted for Barack Obama in 2008, they say they won't vote to reelect him, even though they're noticing positive signs in the economy. They already voted Republican in 2010, helping elect Gov. John Kasich, who has been battling with public employee unions ever since.

"I've basically been a Democratic voter, but I won't vote for Obama again," said Rozell, 61, standing outside the steel plant, which was belching smoke into a drizzly Ohio afternoon. "I don't like the bailout, I don't like taxes, I don't like talking about trillions of dollars of deficit."

Here in Stark County, which has voted for the winner in every presidential election but one since 1980, the concerns of people like Rozell and Sweitzer reflect the challenge confronting President Obama. Despite blue-collar job creation in steel mills, ball-bearing manufacturers and meatpacking companies, many working-class white voters here, and in much of Ohio, say they have reservations about him this time around.

Although this swing state's 20 electoral votes went to Obama in 2008, the latest poll from Quinnipiac University suggests a tight battle, though it is still 10 months before election day. In head-to-head matchups against the president, Romney and Gingrich each were favored by 43% of those surveyed to 42% for Obama.

"I just don't think he's doing the job," Sweitzer said.

On Wednesday, the president will make his 17th trip to Ohio. He will be talking about the economy, though voters here have other concerns too.

They are increasingly choosing the candidates with whom they most identify, says David Wasserman, an editor specializing in House races for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. "Lifestyle and culture is driving politics more than regional economic circumstances," he said. "Obama is more arugula than chicken and dumplings, and that's a problem."

It's true that many white-collar workers still stand behind Obama. They include Steve Moroney, a self-identified independent voter who teaches philosophy at a local college.

"He'd just represent the United States in a better way," said Moroney, who is 49 and white, and was shopping for Christmas presents at a mall in the upscale Belden Village here recently.

Kelly Bafler, a 42-year-old business owner who isn't optimistic about the economy, says she prefers Obama over any of the Republican contenders.

"I know a lot of people are suffering jobwise," said Bafler, who has two children. "But I'm more frustrated with the Republicans."

Among the positive economic signs here is unemployment, which has fallen to 8.5% from a statewide high of 10.6% two years ago. In Stark County, the unemployment rate has fallen to 8.2% from 10.1% a year ago.

That's in part due to blue-collar job growth. In the first quarter of 2011, the number of jobs in the Canton metropolitan area grew 1.9% from the same period the year before, the second-fastest growth rate of any metro area in Ohio, according to George Zeller, an independent economic researcher. Manufacturing employment grew 5.3% in Canton — and 12.4% in Youngstown — he said.

"We've had a real big year this year, quite an uptick in all kinds of positions, actually, especially manufacturing," said Debbie Lindsay, a spokeswoman for Mancan Inc., a staffing agency in Canton. "I actually don't understand why there are people who aren't working."

Job growth isn't the only factor that would normally be helping Democrats in 2012. When Kasich signed a bill that limited collective bargaining for public employees, organized labor canvassed the state, raising enough money and support to vote down the bill in a referendum by a 2-1 ratio.

But union support for the president seems to have faded in the working-class neighborhoods of southwestern Canton, across from the hulking Timken Co. plant, which makes ball bearings and other parts.

"Nobody's happy with Obama," said George Barnes, 70, a retired steelworker and union member who sat at the bar of Frame's Tavern drinking Busch from a small glass and watching the news. He's quick to point out that "it's not because he's African American," but he said he wouldn't vote for Obama, although he did in 2008.

But the color of Obama's skin remains a factor in the views of some voters in Ohio, according to John Russo, co-director of the Center for Working-Class Studies at Youngstown State University.

"Obama has not been real popular; there are a lot of lingering feelings about him, not the least of which, after you clear away all the smoke, is race," he said.

On a recent weekday, three voters were filling out job applications at a Mancan office. Though all three are unemployed, they plan to vote for Obama again.

"He's the lesser of two evils right now," said Mazette Atkins, who is African American, as is 25% of the population of Canton. "Who else are you going to vote for? Donald Trump? Newt Gingrich? No way."

Within a few minutes, a representative for Mancan told Atkins there were no jobs available for him that day. He shrugged his shoulders and walked away.

alana.semuels@latimes.com

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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 10:46:57 AM »
But the color of Obama's skin remains a factor in the views of some voters in Ohio, according to John Russo, co-director of the Center for Working-Class Studies at Youngstown State University.

"Obama has not been real popular; there are a lot of lingering feelings about him, not the least of which, after you clear away all the smoke, is race," he said.

On a recent weekday, three voters were filling out job applications at a Mancan office. Though all three are unemployed, they plan to vote for Obama again.

"He's the lesser of two evils right now," said Mazette Atkins, who is African American, as is 25% of the population of Canton. "Who else are you going to vote for? Donald Trump? Newt Gingrich? No way."

Within a few minutes, a representative for Mancan told Atkins there were no jobs available for him that day. He shrugged his shoulders and walked away.








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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2012, 11:13:55 AM »
there are a lot of white kids wearing Kobe jerseys... and he assraped a pretty 18 year old girl and wouldn't let her leave when blood was leaking out her ass.


americans have a goldfish memory. 

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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 01:10:04 PM »


cue andre, lurker and KC to call me racist



I have never called you a racist.

I have called you stupid, as evidence warrants, but I have never called you racist.  So guess you have to try again here bitch.

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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 04:06:53 PM »
Fuck....Ben's only polling at 15%.

Bastard needs to start reforming his image.  This is a team pride thing.

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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 04:12:52 PM »
Serial rapist and now a gimp.......jump on the Brady bandwagon, you won't feel dirty in the morning.
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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 04:16:37 PM »
Oh hey....are the Patriots going to do their usual fuck it up in the playoffs?

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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 04:22:29 PM »
ESPN says it a new league....year of the QB and all that. We may win just because our guy is heathy. I worry about the Ravens but their O sucks...if Ben was 100%...I'd say we'd be in alot of trouble.
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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 09:56:03 PM »
Must be the same kind of reasoning that leads to this idiocy...

"- 41 percent of African-Americans list Michael Vick as their favorite quarterback"

"Vick was voted the NFL's least popular quarterback, with 26 percent of the vote, beating out Ben Roethlisberger's 15 percent."

LOL seriously Vick is your fav qb?

cue andre, lurker and KC to call me racist

Andreisadousche: "black ppl vote for obama b/c he is black but race has nothing to do with it"

Im sure vicks race has nothing to do with him getting 41% of the black vote right?





Well, you can say the same thing for every other U.S president who is white....one has nothing to do with the other.  As I've stated in the past, no black man is going to vote for someone who is calling them a n i g g e r on a regular basis. 
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Re: No wonder obama still polls good among african americans...
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 10:06:33 PM »
ESPN says it a new league....year of the QB and all that. We may win just because our guy is heathy. I worry about the Ravens but their O sucks...if Ben was 100%...I'd say we'd be in alot of trouble.

The problem is that the Patriots let the Ravens literally run all over them, the last time they faced each other in the playoffs (an 89-yard TD run on the first play from scrimmage).

But, at least your team made it. Mine just tanked 10 straight and got our head coach WHACKED!!