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Powerful new painkiller setting off bells and whistles
« on: December 27, 2011, 02:26:11 PM »
Great, just what this country needs... ::) :-X ::) :-X ::)


Great so instead of a 10mg Lortab with 500mg of aceteminaphin it's like 100mg of Lortab minus the aceteminaphin so the potential for abuse is there and it WILL be abused.  And they aren't making it tamper proof so addicts will crush and chew, snort or shoot up. ...Just what we fucking need...not good at all.... :-X :-X :-X

Just lovely...

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45791556/ns/today-today_health/t/new-powerful-painkiller-has-abuse-experts-worried/?ocid=ansmsnbc11

NEW YORK — Drug companies are working to develop a pure, more powerful version of a highly abused medicine, which has addiction experts worried that it could spur a new wave of abuse.

The new pills contain the highly addictive painkiller hydrocodone, packing up to 10 times the amount of the drug as existing medications such as Vicodin. Four companies have begun patient testing, and one of them — Zogenix of San Diego — plans to apply early next year to begin marketing its product, Zohydro.
 
If approved, it would mark the first time patients could legally buy pure hydrocodone. Existing products combine the drug with nonaddictive painkillers such as acetaminophen.
 
Critics say they are especially worried about Zohydro, a timed-release drug meant for managing moderate to severe pain, because abusers could crush it to release an intense, immediate high.
 
"I have a big concern that this could be the next OxyContin," said April Rovero, president of the National Coalition Against Prescription Drug Abuse. "We just don't need this on the market."
 
OxyContin, introduced in 1995 by Purdue Pharma of Stamford, Connecticut, was designed to manage pain with a formula that dribbled one dose of oxycodone over many hours.
 
Abusers quickly discovered they could defeat the timed-release feature by crushing the pills. Purdue Pharma changed the formula to make OxyContin more tamper-resistant, but addicts have moved onto generic oxycodone and other drugs that do not have a timed-release feature.

Oxycodone is now the most-abused medicine in the United States, with hydrocodone second, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration's annual count of drug seizures sent to police drug labs for analysis.
 
The latest drug tests come as more pharmaceutical companies are getting into the $10 billion-a-year legal market for powerful — and addictive — opiate narcotics.
 
"It's like the wild west," said Peter Jackson, co-founder of Advocates for the Reform of Prescription Opioids. "The whole supply-side system is set up to perpetuate this massive unloading of opioid narcotics on the American public."
 
The pharmaceutical firms say the new hydrocodone drugs give doctors another tool to try on patients in legitimate pain, part of a constant search for better painkillers to treat the aging U.S. population.
 
"Sometimes you circulate a patient between various opioids, and some may have a better effect than others," said Karsten Lindhardt, chief executive of Denmark-based Egalet, which is testing its own pure hydrocodone product.
 
The companies say a pure hydrocodone pill would avoid liver problems linked to high doses of acetaminophen, an ingredient in products like Vicodin. They also say patients will be more closely supervised because, by law, they will have to return to their doctors each time they need more pills. Prescriptions for the weaker, hydrocodone-acetaminophen products now on the market can be refilled up to five times.
 
Zogenix has completed three rounds of patient testing, and last week it announced it had held a final meeting with Food and Drug Administration officials to talk about its upcoming drug application. It plans to file the application in early 2012 and have Zohydro on the market by early 2013.
 
Purdue Pharma and Cephalon, a Frazer, Pennsylvania-based unit of Israel-based Teva Pharmaceuticals, are conducting late-stage trials of their own hydrocodone drugs, according to documents filed with federal regulators.
 
Hydrocodone belongs to family of drugs known as opiates or opioids because they are chemically similar to opium. They include morphine, heroin, oxycodone, codeine, methadone and hydromorphone.
 
Opiates block pain but also unleash intense feelings of well-being and can create physical dependence. The withdrawal symptoms are also intense, with users complaining of cramps, diarrhea, muddled thinking, nausea and vomiting.
 
After a while, opiates stop working, forcing users to take stronger doses or to try slightly different chemicals.
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Re: Powerful new painkiller setting off bells and whistles
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 02:29:00 PM »
 damn...

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 02:32:01 PM »
damn...


They know EXACTLY what they are doing...and it's not for people that need it.  BTW the stock is 1.91...I suggest everyone buy, buy buy cause you WILL be rich...Refer to my posting in two years....This is assuming the FDA passes it and they will.

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Re: Powerful new painkiller setting off bells and whistles
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 02:33:20 PM »
But they outlaw steroids  ???

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Re: Powerful new painkiller setting off bells and whistles
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 02:34:45 PM »
 just saw an msnbc episode on pills in florida...

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 02:35:49 PM »
just saw an msnbc episode on pills in florida...

Florida is epiccenter of pills.
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Re: Powerful new painkiller setting off bells and whistles
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 02:37:04 PM »
Florida is epiccenter of pills.
Tons of old retired and sick people in Fla. = a ton of money for pill pushing doctors and pharm companies.

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2011, 02:39:18 PM »
Tons of old retired and sick people in Fla. = a ton of money for pill pushing doctors and pharm companies.

I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country.  More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 02:39:35 PM »
paracetamol is as strong as you can get over the counter here.

i tried to buy some nightnurse from the chemist the other day. they gave me the fucking 3rd degree for fucking nightnurse  ::). i gave up in the end lol

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 02:41:30 PM »
I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country.  More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.
I hear ya` dude. 

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2011, 02:43:24 PM »
I don't think your average joe realizes how deep the opiod game is in this country.  More pills are taken for other than their intended purpose than for their intended purpose...it's really fucked up...I could write a book.

Yeah most of the pill poppers are women  :-\

I know a fucking ton of women who pop pills like they're going out of style

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2011, 02:44:53 PM »
Yeah most of the pill poppers are women  :-\

I know a fucking ton of women who pop pills like they're going out of style

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Re: Powerful new painkiller setting off bells and whistles
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2011, 02:47:26 PM »
Ever visit other peoples houses and see some of the shit they are on?

I`ve gone to people houses and they are on like 10-20 different pills for different shit......kinda` like some of the drug cycles posted here.  :(

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2011, 03:27:00 PM »
ive never understood how people get hooked on Vikes or percocet or Oxy's, etc., i can take one when i have extreme pain and it zaps the pain but i dont feel "high" from it so i dont want another one after the pain is gone, all of you guys who crush and snort this stuff are nuts.

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2011, 03:30:23 PM »
ive never understood how people get hooked on Vikes or percocet or Oxy's, etc., i can take one when i have extreme pain and it zaps the pain but i dont feel "high" from it so i dont want another one after the pain is gone, all of you guys who crush and snort this stuff are nuts.

It never starts that way bro...It's all fun and games at first, next thing you know a bitches are turning tricks for pills...crazy world.
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2011, 03:33:06 PM »
It never starts that way bro...It's all fun and games at first, next thing you know a bitches are turning tricks for pills...crazy world.
believe me man i can understand it thats why you have to limit yourself, i go into it understanding the power these things have and take the absolute MINIMUM needed and only when my pain is so extreme that Motrin wont cover it, i feel for you and anyone who has had to deal with addiction to pain pills, its a bitch, i know it more than you can imagine.

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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 03:33:38 PM »
ive never understood how people get hooked on Vikes or percocet or Oxy's, etc., i can take one when i have extreme pain and it zaps the pain but i dont feel "high" from it so i dont want another one after the pain is gone, all of you guys who crush and snort this stuff are nuts.

 Like steroids, some people respond better to certain ones.... its the same thing with regular drugs.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 03:34:25 PM »
It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.

Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them


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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 03:36:12 PM »
It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.

Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them



good post 100% correct
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2011, 03:37:29 PM »
It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.

Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them


that "eating healty" stuff is all well and good when you're healthy already but when youve had a bone broken, torn ligaments, surgery, extreme illness, etc. that bullshit aint doing anything and you need some fucking relief, the key is using the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to get by, using 4-5 tablets at a time is dooming yourself to addiction gauranteed.

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2011, 03:39:09 PM »
that "eating healty" stuff is all well and good when you're healthy already but when youve had a bone broken, torn ligaments, surgery, extreme illness, etc. that bullshit aint doing anything and you need some fucking relief, the key is using the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to get by, using 4-5 tablets at a time is dooming yourself to addiction gauranteed.

okay I should of been more clear. I meant more for diagnosis of diseases like autism and MS. You're right about hurt muscles and/or bones

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2011, 03:41:37 PM »
like anything else its the abusers who put the responsible users and more importantly DOCTORS at risk.

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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2011, 03:42:20 PM »
It's fucking sad that drug companies, our own govt and the world things drugs cure all. All people need to do is a little research. Eating healthy and changing lifestyle is the better option.

Why is it that 1 out 11 births, the child is autistic. Fucking drug companies put mercury in the child shots. If parents did a little research, ask for shots without mercury. Fucking baffling. Insurance companies, doctors, et all, they wants us sick and dependent on their crap. Fuck them


did you hear about the denver international airport? its a secret government facility with miles and miles of underground tunnels where the elite will hide out when the 2012 apocalypse the government has a hand in creating will come about..  the reptilians are coming runningmomm..  !!!

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« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2011, 03:43:54 PM »
like anything else its the abusers who give the responsible users and more importantly DOCTORS at risk.

Problem is with these drugs is that that are prescribed like candy turning normal people into addict. There are more abusers than there are responsible users...that is a problem. But too much money is being made and nothing will be done until things are much worse and it's very bad right now.
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2011, 03:45:21 PM »
did you hear about the denver international airport? its a secret government facility with miles and miles of underground tunnels where the elite will hide out when the 2012 apocalypse the government has a hand in creating will come about..  the reptilians are coming runningmomm..  !!!

oh great, does this mean I should give fuck all and be my old obese self by the end of 2012.. ;D