my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26

[armchairifbbjudge]

i say no no no


he say yes yes yes


 

[mass243]

Friend of peace 

[JZMB]

he doesnt know the thunderdome

[armchairifbbjudge]

i tell him i read that you need to be on the juice definitely by age 22-23 MAX

[nasht5]

i say no no no


he say yes yes yes


 

he is wrong. you are right.
too many f'n reasons to explain why your right and he is wrong.

[armchairifbbjudge]

he is wrong. you are right.
too many f'n reasons to explain why your right and he is wrong.

yes i feel this is very sad now i have to pretend like he may be right to keep the peace

[_bruce_]

Friend of peace 

Never gets old  

[Swlabr]

b-boy...was...natural...until...30...

look...at..him...now...t hickest...mofo...you...w ill...ever...see...

[Tito24]

savages

[howardroark]

Most pros started juicing young... Even with steroids you need time to grow and mature into a new physique. You can't just slap on 100lbs of muscle in a few years.

[oldtimer1]

A pro bodybuilder?  Maybe ten guys make decent money and even that is short lived.

[greeneyes]

stfu  

[armchairifbbjudge]

stfu  

hot!!!!

 

[local hero]

most pros would have been abusing a good 5 to 10 yr before turning pro... alot of them were fully developed in early 20's such as levrone, ray, arnie, preist, yates etc etc   

[MAXX]

bullshit. all successful pro bb's started in their teens.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com

[armchairifbbjudge]

he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com

must be somewhere because he said he researched it extensively

[AlphaMaleDawg]

must be somewhere because he said he researched it extensively

well if you go to any site other than this one, you will get nothing but horrible information. So researching extensively typically is a bad thing due to the misinformation out there

[armchairifbbjudge]

well if you go to any site other than this one, you will get nothing but horrible information. So researching extensively typically is a bad thing due to the misinformation out there

i believe he is partly in denial and wants to postpone the drugs by any means


well maybe that is a projection 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

i believe he is partly in denial and wants to postpone the drugs by any means


well maybe that is a projection 

I started 2 months before my 25th birthday. Wish I had started during college at 20 years old

[armchairifbbjudge]

I started 2 months before my 25th birthday. Wish I had started during college at 20 years old

Imagine being steroid sized in college


seems much more fun than being steroid sized in day to day working life

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Imagine being steroid sized in college


seems much more fun than being steroid sized in day to day working life

I still try to live like a college kid these days but I obviously don't live in a campus of 16,000 undergrads anymore. But yea, I didnt know anything about roids back then. I was big and bloated and natural until I dieted down for spring break naturally my senior year and acquired some decent abs

[whitewidow]

I say 24. The male body grows till about that age then stops. you want to be done growing completely naturally before juicing and you also want to get as strong as possible without juicing. guys who wait seem to have better result. I looked like I juiced when I was 21 but never touched the stuff til 24 and It worked wonders. I know I didint get the strength gains some guys get. I put on 50 pounds on my bench press and added about the same alot more to my squats. but its not like my strength doubled or anything crazy like that. 25% in strength is not to bad. whta it mainly did was add thickness and helped me recover faster. I also got way better pumps. vascularity all the things you desire but the strength is nothing that fantastic. I was benching 335pds before I hit the juice and got up to around 380 so a 45 pound weight increase on the flat bench I gained more doing hammer strength I got up to 405 for 5-6 reps wich isnt anything that special but it def added thickness. I always do a super set the last set of every lift where I do 50-100 reps with light weight I picked up that tip from chris dim.

[Swlabr]

I say 24. The male body grows till about that age then stops. you want to be done growing completely naturally before juicing and you also want to get as strong as possible without juicing. guys who wait seem to have better result. I looked like I juiced when I was 21 but never touched the stuff til 24 and It worked wonders. I know I didint get the strength gains some guys get. I put on 50 pounds on my bench press and added about the same alot more to my squats. but its not like my strength doubled or anything crazy like that. 25% in strength is not to bad. whta it mainly did was add thickness and helped me recover faster. I also got way better pumps. vascularity all the things you desire but the strength is nothing that fantastic. I was benching 335pds before I hit the juice and got up to around 380 so a 45 pound weight increase on the flat bench I gained more doing hammer strength I got up to 405 for 5-6 reps wich isnt anything that special but it def added thickness. I always do a super set the last set of every lift where I do 50-100 reps with light weight I picked up that tip from chris dim.

Fuck that noise, I don't want to be lean and mean at 26 or so, I want to be a beast NOW!

[nasht5]

dude, he wants to be a pro-bodybuilder, period. if he waits to be 25 his career is over before it ever began. In BB they all start as amateurs and ya gotta finish certain shows in the top 5 some top 3 others ya gotta win to qualify for the next level of BB show. Ya gotta qualify to go to the show ya gotta WIN to gain your pro-card.
if he waits to be 25 to start - his career is already over.

powerlifting it's fine and I recomend waiting as long as you can, your right about better gains after reaching natural peaks, blah blah blah.

BUT HE WANTS TO BE A PRO BODYBUILDER!!!! Not some big gym rat who's almost 30.

He waits, he loses, the dream will never have a chance of becoming a reality.