Author Topic: my friend wants to be pro and claims it's best to stay natural to age 25-26 (Read 5602 times)

Obvious Gimmick · « **Reply #25 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:36:07 PM »

crossfit is wave of future anyway

Natural Man · « **Reply #26 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:42:05 PM »

I bet you re friend/life "partner" was raised by a single mom?

che · « **Reply #27 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:43:39 PM »

Quote from: uberman on December 30, 2011, 07:42:05 PM

I bet you re friend/life "partner" was raised by a single mom?

What's your point , retard ?

Natural Man · « **Reply #28 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:44:57 PM »

Quote from: che on December 30, 2011, 07:43:39 PM

What's your point , retard ?

My point is that sons raised by single moms often have stupid, extremistic lifegoals, like considering turning "pro bodybuilders" and injecting steroids, because of the lack of a decent father figure and because they pathologically need to compensate for this lack of a father figure by expressing over-exagerated "manly" attitudes at all costs.

Had they have a decent father figure who gave them healthy attention they would be studying and working good jobs, starting families instead of focusing on watching tv, mma, jersey shore, playing video games, abusing drugs and taking steroids after starting lifting weights 2 months ago. They basically want it all now using shortcuts and missing the path itself.

On a side note, next time you ask someone a question, dont finish the very same question with an insult, as this person might not want to answer you as a result.

Retard.

gh15 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:49:40 PM »

Quote from: AlphaMaleDawg on December 30, 2011, 11:39:28 AM

he most definitely gets his info from steroid.com

lol!

che · « **Reply #30 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:53:05 PM »

Quote from: uberman on December 30, 2011, 07:44:57 PM

My point is that sons raised by single moms often have stupid, extremistic lifegoals, like considering turning "pro bodybuilders" and injecting steroids, because of the lack of a decent father figure and because they pathologically need to compensate for this lack of a father figure by expressing over-exagerated "manly" attitudes at all costs.

Had they have a decent father figure who gave them healthy attention they would be studying and working good jobs, starting families instead of focusing on watching tv, mma, jersey shore, playing video games, abusing drugs and taking steroids after starting lifting weights 2 months ago. They basically want it all now using shortcuts and missing the path itself.

On a side note, next time you ask someone a question, dont finish the very same question with an insult, as this person might not want to answer you as a result.

Retard.

So it's not his fault it's his parents fault, now STFU retarded bitch.

Morsprincipium · « **Reply #31 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:53:44 PM »

It sounds terrible, but I've always recommended to up and comers to start by at least 18-20. Gotta go to extremes to get to extremes

gh15 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:56:17 PM »

anywhere between 18 and 25,, after that you will alwys chase the dream ,, some wil make it after but it will be in the masters ....

the comon thing to us bodybuild is the consistancy in usage of high quality dosed products for long enough time to develop the layers of 3 dimentional needed for profesional level,, you dont get it after couple months...it takes some time,, yes you can start when you are 28.... but chances of yuo to do damage are not good,, you will be mr local gymnasium though

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el numero uno · « **Reply #33 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:57:55 PM »

Quote from: uberman on December 30, 2011, 07:44:57 PM

My point is that sons raised by single moms often have stupid, extremistic lifegoals, like considering turning "pro bodybuilders" and injecting steroids, because of the lack of a decent father figure and because they pathologically need to compensate for this lack of a father figure by expressing over-exagerated "manly" attitudes at all costs.

Had they have a decent father figure who gave them healthy attention they would be studying and working good jobs, starting families instead of focusing on watching tv, mma, jersey shore, playing video games, abusing drugs and taking steroids after starting lifting weights 2 months ago. They basically want it all now using shortcuts and missing the path itself.

On a side note, next time you ask someone a question, dont finish the very same question with an insult, as this person might not want to answer you as a result.

Retard.

Sorry, but not everyone has the mental capacity to follow good careers, some people it's just too dumb, period. It's not just about how they were raised. Plus, most guys who were raised by single moms that I know, are kinda feminine. They are not trying to be exaggeratedly mainly.

Natural Man · « **Reply #34 on:** December 30, 2011, 07:58:58 PM »

Quote from: che on December 30, 2011, 07:53:05 PM

So it's not his fault it's his parents fault, now STFU retarded bitch.

You sure seem to have deep non adressed issues with what i write. That's your problem, not mine, and the more you insult me out of the blue for no reasons after every single of my post only proves it furthermore.

But maybe that's your immature way of asking for help ?

Natural Man · « **Reply #35 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:03:30 PM »

Quote from: el numero uno on December 30, 2011, 07:57:55 PM

Sorry, but not everyone has the mental capacity to follow good careers, some people it's just too dumb, period. It's not just about how they were raised. Plus, most guys who were raised by single moms that I know, are kinda feminine. They are not trying to be exaggeratedly mainly.

Genes, upbringings, education, faith, love, shape one's habilities. We all have a maximum physical, and intellectual plateau tho. But most of the time our best is way beyond what we imagine. Only those who were loved enough by caregivers have the required confidence to reach their maximum potential. Others just reproduce their caregivers , genitors mistakes subconsciously and when they find it out, they regret it and end bitter and frustrated at them and the whole world. Still even these people can accept their fate and contribute one way or another if they follow God's words. There is nothing in psychology or psychanalysis that hasnt alrdy been adressed by God's words.

el numero uno · « **Reply #36 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:37:35 PM »

Quote from: uberman on December 30, 2011, 08:03:30 PM

Genes, upbringings, education, faith, love, shape one's habilities. We all have a maximum physical, and intellectual plateau tho. But most of the time our best is way beyond what we imagine. Only those who were loved enough by caregivers have the required confidence to reach their maximum potential. Others just reproduce their caregivers , genitors mistakes subconsciously and when they find it out, they regret it and end bitter and frustrated at them and the whole world. Still even these people can accept their fate and contribute one way or another if they follow God's words. There is nothing in psychology or psychanalysis that hasnt alrdy been adressed by God's words.

I agree, except for the last part, I don't know about psychology thus I couldn't agree/disagree with the last sentence.

MikMaq · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:53:45 PM »

Lol ubermans actually making sense for once.

Anyhow fuck that noise, starting under 30 is fine, your odds are so low, that being older makes little difference, it's the networking, the look of your competition etc that have the greatest effect.

gh15 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 30, 2011, 09:29:34 PM »

if you have and i reapt if you have legit products,, and that mean LEGIT HGH AND LEGIT AAS... you will look no diff than the pros or in beter wording th etop amatuer who compete for profesional card,, the major diff is that the ones who compete for profesional card has deep deep contacts for legit hormones,,

30 days on kigtropin gh will teach you all you need to know about this scam of a cult,,notice what i say here 3 0 days not 6 months not 12 months 3 0 days 8-10 iu kigtropin and you understand exactly how bodybuild can eat so much balonie and never get much fat,, you undertsand how they get the vains and skin attached to muscle ,, you understand how their body look so elastic,, you understand how their abdominal wall grow into the skin ,, you understand how their delts are all fake ...you understand everything there is to understand...

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theheman · « **Reply #39 on:** December 30, 2011, 10:52:10 PM »

Quote from: gh15 on December 30, 2011, 09:29:34 PM

if you have and i reapt if you have legit products,, and that mean LEGIT HGH AND LEGIT AAS... you will look no diff than the pros or in beter wording th etop amatuer who compete for profesional card,, the major diff is that the ones who compete for profesional card has deep deep contacts for legit hormones,,

30 days on kigtropin gh will teach you all you need to know about this scam of a cult,,notice what i say here 3 0 days not 6 months not 12 months 3 0 days 8-10 iu kigtropin and you understand exactly how bodybuild can eat so much balonie and never get much fat,, you undertsand how they get the vains and skin attached to muscle ,, you understand how their body look so elastic,, you understand how their abdominal wall grow into the skin ,, you understand how their delts are all fake ...you understand everything there is to understand...

gh15 approved

Thanks for getting the cat out of the bag. Your advice in one way or another helps everyone on here. That's why you're the most loved poster on here.

gh15 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 30, 2011, 11:02:37 PM »

Quote from: theheman on December 30, 2011, 10:52:10 PM

Thanks for getting the cat out of the bag. Your advice in one way or another helps everyone on here. That's why you're the most loved poster on here.

none of them is special by the way ,, i have sen on the thunderdome here fellas who are uite much better than places 10-15 on o stage im being very honest,, they just didnt jump on the train on the right time,, they didnt have the hook up...so they neevr matched ,,

as i always say ....the big deep scam of the 20 thcentury is supplement companys but! behind it behind it ther eeis even deeper scam and it is the scam of your parents,, this is a sad sad scam of no morals who made many many fellas very very rich,, ALL of the fellas who get up in bodybuikld USE LEGIT HGH...look at kuko the kid...this fella woudnt even be 200lb with out gh ,, im very serious he would maybe be 200lb 10% on steroids alone nothing special and he wil be mr o due to hgh and insulina...look into putnem he shoud have never got profesional card even WITH gh! but he did ...look into all the fellas that advance in bodybuild...WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE COMMON THING TO THEM ALL ...WHAT IS THE COMMON THING BETWEEN EVAN CENTOFLONI AND KUKO THE KID? WHAT IS THE COMON THINS BETWEEN JASON HUH AND RODRAYMOND BROTHER? WHEE DOES THAT MORON FILT HERIS FIT IN ? WHERE IS LIAR PRIEST FIT IN ?

I WIL TELL YOU WHERE AND WHAT...

THEY ALL USE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE LEGIT LEGIT LIKE WARM BUNS OUT OF FACTORY ,, THEY WOULD BE ABSOLITLY NOTHING NOTHING! WITH OUT IT ,, AND THE DIFF IS THEY ADVANCE FOR THEY HAVE LEGIT HGH...IF YOU HAD LEGIT HGH YOU WOULD SEE HOW YOU GO TO WASH YOUR HANDS IN THE SINK AFTER TAKING A DUMP...AND EVERY WEEK YOU STAND THERE NODING YOUR HEAD FROM SIDE TO SIDE SMILING BUT IN REALITY WANT TO CRY FOR YOU UNDERSTAND EVERY WEEK HOW YOU BEEN MISLEAD FOR SO MANY YEADRS AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MADE YOUR PARENTS SPEND ON YOUR SORRY ASS...

it is very bad what some did to bodybuild,, the dumb notion of genetic lol BALONIE! it is all hgh ALL FUCKIN HGH if you have only decent level frame and respond decent which is not hard...and dedicated and dont give up YOU CAN GO PROFESIONAL PERIOD!

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NelsonMuntz · « **Reply #41 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:19:27 AM »

Fuck the so called 3-d look, yeah the pros have that today but they look like shit compared to the guys in the 70"s and 80's

People should train drug free until they stop making gains. Yeah you will be pudgy and not cut up but at least when you stop competing you will know how to train drug free or with less and always have that base.