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I thought Repubs were so concerned about voter fraud (even though there are have only been a handful of cases in the last 20 years or so and mostly people who weren't even doing it intentionally)

I guess there's no point in requiring a photo ID at a Republican caucus since we all know the real purpose of the law is to disinfranchise legitimate voters who would most likely vote Democratic

Oh yeah, you can register the same day for the Iowa caucus as well

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brad-friedman/republicans-require-no-ph_b_1173283.html

Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus

For all of their years of claims that massive voter fraud is going on at the polling place, such that photo ID restrictions are required to ensure the integrity of the vote, you'd think that when Republicans have a chance to run their own elections, they'd be sure to want it to be as "fraud"-free as possible.

Nonetheless, despite onerous polling place photo ID requirements now passed into law in about a dozen states where the GOP controls both the legislative and executive branches, voters will be able to cast their ballot in next Tuesday's "First-in-the-Nation" Republican Iowa caucuses without bothering to show a photo ID -- even though the Republican Party itself sets their own rules for voting there.

Unlike most primary elections where an official state election board or agency sets the rules and runs the registration and balloting processes, the Iowa Republican Party runs its own state caucuses, determines the rules, tabulates all the votes and announces the results to the public and media themselves. They have complete control over the entire process, and yet they don't bother to ask their own voters to show a state-issued photo ID before casting their ballot.

I wonder why that would be?

Actually, I don't. I know exactly why that's the case. Polling place photo ID laws, passed in states where Republicans took control in the wave election of 2010, are instituted for one purpose and one purpose only: to suppress the votes of voters such as the elderly, minorities and students, all of whom have a dastardly tendency to vote for Democratic candidates rather than Republicans. Since only Republicans are on the IA Republican caucus ballot, unlike general elections, the GOP has no interest in disenfranchising their own voters.

While the GOP likes to claim they're attempting to institute these laws to curb "voter fraud," they're unable to show evidence of virtually any polling place impersonation that would supposedly be prevented by such laws. For example, in rejecting the South Carolina GOP's new Photo ID restriction last Friday, finding that that the state's own statistics showed the law would be racially discriminatory, the U.S. Dept. of Justice noted [PDF] that the state failed to point to "any evidence or instance of either in-person voter impersonation or any other type of fraud that is not already addressed by the state's existing voter identification requirement and that arguably could be deterred by requiring voters to present only photo identification at the polls."

That, even as independent study after study has documented how hundreds of thousands of perfectly legal voters are likely to be disenfranchised by such laws.

Of course, if "voter fraud" was truly a concern of the Republican Party, surely they would require that Iowa caucus goers present a photo ID before casting their vote. But, because such laws have never been about "voter fraud," once again this year, the Party will not bother to require Iowa Republicans to present any such ID before voting in the all-important caucuses next week.

According to their own "Bullet-Point Guide to the 2012 Republican Party of Iowa Caucuses," as posted at the state party's website last week, only new registrants, those registering to sign up with the Republican Party and vote on the same day at the caucus, will be asked -- but not actually required -- to show photo ID:


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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 01:10:43 PM »
Think they will be crying about requiring ID come November?

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 01:11:24 PM »
yeah, repubs need to decide which side they're on.   they only harp on this issue when it comes to poor people voting obama.  they should absolutely require rich folks voting repub to have their IDs also.  

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 01:13:28 PM »
Voting is a state by state thing you leftist morons! 

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2012, 01:16:45 PM »
All voting is state by state, but weren't Republicans pushing for IDs for people to vote?


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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 01:21:51 PM »
All voting is state by state, but weren't Republicans pushing for IDs for people to vote?



Some states yes, some states already have it, other states no.   

My God - just when I thought civic illiteracy was high, 240 and Lurker never fail to surprise.   

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 01:23:31 PM »
Some states yes, some states already have it, other states no.   

My God - just when I thought civic illiteracy was high, 240 and Lurker never fail to surprise.   


As long as they don't try to make it an issue later on, I don't care.

I like the idea of voting 3 or 4 times... Remember... If both sides are cheating the system, then it's not cheating.

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 01:28:40 PM »
Voting is a state by state thing you leftist morons! 

no shit and Repubs run the Republican caucus in Iowa so why is there suddenly no need for a photo ID?

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 01:30:31 PM »
As long as they don't try to make it an issue later on, I don't care.

I like the idea of voting 3 or 4 times... Remember... If both sides are cheating the system, then it's not cheating.

I agree with voter id laws.   I also think we need a basic civics test as well.  

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 01:31:05 PM »
no shit and Repubs run the Republican caucus in Iowa so why is there suddenly no need for a photo ID?

Maybe there are already safeguards in place.

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 01:34:50 PM »
Some states yes, some states already have it, other states no.   

My God - just when I thought civic illiteracy was high, 240 and Lurker never fail to surprise.   


Boo Hoo.  Can't make any other excuse for the hypocrisy?

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 01:38:03 PM »
Boo Hoo.  Can't make any other excuse for the hypocrisy?


What are you talking about you ignorant fool?   Voting laws are different state by state.   

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2012, 01:46:04 PM »
Maybe there are already safeguards in place.

there aren't


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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2012, 01:46:58 PM »
What are you talking about you ignorant fool?   Voting laws are different state by state.   

Do you have a problem with not having to show ID in order to vote?

Or only when Dems do it?

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2012, 01:47:36 PM »
Do you have a problem with not having to show ID in order to vote?

Or only when Dems do it?

Yes.  I believe in voter ID as well as civics test(s).   

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2012, 01:51:46 PM »
Yes.  I believe in voter ID as well as civics test(s).   

considering Dems have higher education levels (as a group) than Repubs I don't the Republicans would go for this


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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2012, 01:53:06 PM »
Yes.  I believe in voter ID as well as civics test(s).   

Then I guess you will make a million threads condemning the GOP for doing this?

Will wait on the first one... any  minute now.

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2012, 01:55:01 PM »
considering Dems have higher education levels (as a group) than Repubs I don't the Republicans would go for this

33, he is right.

if you had an IQ test to vote - you may have more repubs sitting home.  think about the trailer park blocks, the mountains packed with cabins of religious repubs voters who can't read but sure do hates them some obama.

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2012, 01:55:08 PM »
Then I guess you will make a million threads condemning the GOP for doing this?

Will wait on the first one... any  minute now.


The states can do what they want according to the law, me personally - i favor voter id and extensive civics proficiency before being allowed to vote.  

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2012, 01:55:50 PM »
33, he is right.

if you had an IQ test to vote - you may have more repubs sitting home.  think about the trailer park blocks, the mountains packed with cabins of religious repubs voters who can't read but sure do hates them some obama.

LOL!!!!   You should see the welfare armies in the bronx and brooklyn that vote 99% demo every time regardless. 

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2012, 01:56:47 PM »
I disagree with any kind of IQ test, civics, whatever.

I like the "you have felony, you dont vote", but aside from that...


You KNOW whoever wrote the test would have a bias.  No doubt.

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2012, 01:57:07 PM »

The states can do what they want according to the law, me personally - i favor voter id and extensive civics proficiency before being allowed to vote.  

To bad there would never be another Repub POTUS is any kind of test is given.

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2012, 01:57:53 PM »
To bad there would never be another Repub POTUS is any kind of test is given.

LOL.   Peggy Joseph anyone?   

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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2012, 02:05:24 PM »

The states can do what they want according to the law, me personally - i favor voter id and extensive civics proficiency before being allowed to vote.  

Iowa Repubs passed a voter ID law for the general election so what possible reason could have have for not requiring it in the primaries.

btw - same day registration is allowed during the primary too but not during the general election (to the best of my knowledge)


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Re: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2012, 02:06:25 PM »
I agree with voter id laws.   I also think we need a basic civics test as well.  


Its been done before..... ::)  That's part of the Jim Crow Laws you racist piece of shit


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