Beware of the "Anti-Government" extremists!

[Xerxes]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-fbi-extremists-idUSTRE81600V20120207

(Reuters) - Anti-government extremists opposed to taxes and regulations pose a growing threat to local law enforcement officers in the United States, the FBI warned on Monday.

These extremists, sometimes known as "sovereign citizens," believe they can live outside any type of government authority, FBI agents said at a news conference.

The extremists may refuse to pay taxes, defy government environmental regulations and believe the United States went bankrupt by going off the gold standard.

Routine encounters with police can turn violent "at the drop of a hat," said Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director in the FBI's counterterrorism division.

"We thought it was important to increase the visibility of the threat with state and local law enforcement," he said.

In May 2010, two West Memphis, Arkansas, police officers were shot and killed in an argument that developed after they pulled over a "sovereign citizen" in traffic.

Last year, an extremist in Texas opened fire on a police officer during a traffic stop. The officer was not hit.

Legal convictions of such extremists, mostly for white-collar crimes such as fraud, have increased from 10 in 2009 to 18 each in 2010 and 2011, FBI agents said.

"We are being inundated right now with requests for training from state and local law enforcement on sovereign-related matters," said Casey Carty, an FBI supervisory special agent.

FBI agents said they do not have a tally of people who consider themselves "sovereign citizens."

J.J. MacNab, a former tax and insurance expert who is an analyst covering the sovereign movement, has estimated that it has about 100,000 members.

Sovereign members often express particular outrage at tax collection, putting Internal Revenue Service employees at risk.

(Reporting By Patrick Temple-West; Editing by Kevin Drawbaugh)

And so it begins....?

[njanvi]

You're an idiot...
Two words.....Timothy McVeigh
I'm sure those families in ok city very much appreciate you using that quote way out of context to push ur bullshit agenda

[JBGRAY]

Ron Paul voters 

[Xerxes]

You're an idiot...
Two words.....Timothy McVeigh
I'm sure those families in ok city very much appreciate you using that quote way out of context to push ur bullshit agenda

What's your point? Do you have one? What is your opinion? Do you have one?

How the hell is Timothy McVeigh relevant? 1995 is almost 20 years ago stud, and I live in Oslo, right next to the Breivik bombings, don't preach to me fucker.

[njanvi]

What's your point? Do you have one? What is your opinion? Do you have one?

How the hell is Timothy McVeigh relevant? 1995 is almost 20 years ago stud, and I live in Oslo, right next to the Breivik bombings, don't preach to me fucker.

20 years ago...yeah a lifetime
Once more...you're an idiot!

[A Professional]

What's your point? Do you have one? What is your opinion? Do you have one?

How the hell is Timothy McVeigh relevant? 1995 is almost 20 years ago stud, and I live in Oslo, right next to the Breivik bombings, don't preach to me fucker.

haha exactly. Some people accept their slavery and like it.

[Nomad]

So is GE and other corporations on the list ?! 

G.E.’s Strategies Let It Avoid Taxes Altogether
By DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI
General Electric, the nation’s largest corporation, had a very good year in 2010.

The company reported worldwide profits of $14.2 billion, and said $5.1 billion of the total came from its operations in the United States.

Its American tax bill? None. In fact, G.E. claimed a tax benefit of $3.2 billion.

That may be hard to fathom for the millions of American business owners and households now preparing their own returns, but low taxes are nothing new for G.E. The company has been cutting the percentage of its American profits paid to the Internal Revenue Service for years, resulting in a far lower rate than at most multinational companies.

Its extraordinary success is based on an aggressive strategy that mixes fierce lobbying for tax breaks and innovative accounting that enables it to concentrate its profits offshore. G.E.’s giant tax department, led by a bow-tied former Treasury official named John Samuels, is often referred to as the world’s best tax law firm. Indeed, the company’s slogan “Imagination at Work” fits this department well. The team includes former officials not just from the Treasury, but also from the I.R.S. and virtually all the tax-writing committees in Congress.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?pagewanted=all

[Voice of Doom]

If you are a threat to the machine you will be removed....as has always been the way.

[Xerxes]

So is GE and other corporations on the list ?! 


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/business/economy/25tax.html?pagewanted=all

I don't know. Who knows? Only the higher ups.

[aesthetics]

it's obviously a political statement. whichever party is in power at the time always abuse this kind of shit, doesn't make any damn difference though

[Bad Boy Dazza]

Mormon State gets a lot of free passes.

[240 is Back]

it's obviously a political statement. whichever party is in power at the time always abuse this kind of shit, doesn't make any damn difference though

good call man.

[Soul Crusher]

You're an idiot...
Two words.....Timothy McVeigh
I'm sure those families in ok city very much appreciate you using that quote way out of context to push ur bullshit agenda

You are fucking moron.   McVeigh was under the watchful eye of the FBI and ATF and they allowed that crap to happen.  They even supplied the bomb materials! 

Also - illegal alien DWI results in more deaths a year than so called right wing extremists. 
 

[Purge_WTF]

[howardroark]

You're an idiot...
Two words.....Timothy McVeigh
I'm sure those families in ok city very much appreciate you using that quote way out of context to push ur bullshit agenda

You're a fucking idiot if you don't see the difference between Timothy McVeigh, a few anti-police crimes in recent years, and "sovereign citizens" or other pro-liberty activists.

[Shockwave]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-usa-fbi-extremists-idUSTRE81600V20120207


And so it begins....?

Jesus Christ....
Its becoming blatant now...
People will wake up, after they cant go out after curfew.

V for Vendetta, here we come. 

[Xerxes]

Jesus Christ....
Its becoming blatant now...
People will wake up, after they cant go out after curfew.

V for Vendetta, here we come. 

What ever do you mean? Are you suggesting there is something dubious about declaring 100 000 citizens terrorist? Don't be silly mister!

[240 is Back]

You are fucking moron.   McVeigh was under the watchful eye of the FBI and ATF and they allowed that crap to happen.  They even supplied the bomb materials! 

You're saying the OK City attacks were an inside job, 33?

[Soul Crusher]

You're saying the OK City attacks were an inside job, 33?

no, I am saying that McVaigh was on their radar and they id not do a damn thing about it.   

[Shockwave]

What ever do you mean? Are you suggesting there is something dubious about declaring 100 000 citizens terrorist? Don't be silly mister!

This coupled with the signing of the NDAA which allows them to detain us (US citizens), and the whole FEMA camp thing... Im out. Fuck this place.

[240 is Back]

no, I am saying that McVaigh was on their radar and they id not do a damn thing about it.  

you actually said the FBI supplied the bomb materials:

McVeigh was under the watchful eye of the FBI and ATF and they allowed that crap to happen.  They even supplied the bomb materials!  

This implies a huge hand in the attacks.  This CT of yours is probably the 2nd biggest CT, second only to 911.

I'm starting to think you're a CTer on a lot of the issues - you believe the official story is BS.

What's your take on Waco?  (You do know what flashes the helicopters showed, and you do know they melted the door and bulldozed/buried the site and never investigated the scene)

Was waco "all the bad guys killed each other" or do you believe the CT that our guys wasted them?

[Soul Crusher]

you actually said the FBI supplied the bomb materials:

This implies a huge hand in the attacks.  This CT of yours is probably the 2nd biggest CT, second only to 911.

I'm starting to think you're a CTer on a lot of the issues - you believe the official story is BS.

What's your take on Waco?  (You do know what flashes the helicopters showed, and you do know they melted the door and bulldozed/buried the site and never investigated the scene)

Was waco "all the bad guys killed each other" or do you believe the CT that our guys wasted them?

WACO was mass murder by the govt.   Far better ways to deal with Koresh than how they pulled that off.   Same w Ruby Ridge.   

[240 is Back]

WACO was mass murder by the govt.   Far better ways to deal with Koresh than how they pulled that off.   Same w Ruby Ridge.   

How about WTC 1993? 

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtcbomb.html

CBS & NYT both reported on the contents of the audio tape recording between FBI handler and one of the bombers, in which the feds actually tell them where to park the truck and giave them 'fake' explosives which were obviously real ?
You can see the NYT article and CBS news broadcast at that link.

Do you balieve that one was an inside job too, 33?

[Soul Crusher]

How about WTC 1993? 

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtcbomb.html

CBS & NYT both reported on the contents of the audio tape recording between FBI handler and one of the bombers, in which the feds actually tell them where to park the truck and giave them 'fake' explosives which were obviously real ?
You can see the NYT article and CBS news broadcast at that link.

Do you balieve that one was an inside job too, 33?

I believe it was mass incompetence and govt red tape.   Not the same thing as inside job.   

[240 is Back]

I believe it was mass incompetence and govt red tape.   Not the same thing as inside job.   

So the FBI knew about it but accidentally gave them real bombs = mass incompetence?

That part is undeniable.  "We accidentally gave them real bombs" is their best case scenario.