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Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« on: March 03, 2012, 09:18:16 AM »
I know for a fact that most  of the shit for brains liberals who post here have never actually listened to the Rush Limbaugh show. Now, most won't admit that-- but just to educate the ill informed, know nothings on this website, here is the clip from this past week that caused the uproar.


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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2012, 09:21:50 AM »
Perfectly for someone who is filled with rage because woman find him disgusting and he can't get laid

Also perfectly for someone who doesn't understand the human reproductive system or how contraception works

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2012, 09:28:30 AM »
Perfectly for someone who is filled with rage because woman find him disgusting and he can't get laid

Also perfectly for someone who doesn't understand the human reproductive system or how contraception works

Are you going to print out your posts and send them to Fluke in the hopes of Fluking her later on? 

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2012, 09:31:40 AM »
Are you going to print out your posts and send them to Fluke in the hopes of Fluking her later on? 

that's something only a moron like you would think of doing


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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2012, 10:44:11 AM »
Are you going to print out your posts and send them to Fluke in the hopes of Fluking her later on? 


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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 08:14:48 AM »
Perfectly for someone who is filled with rage because woman find him disgusting and he can't get laid

Also perfectly for someone who doesn't understand the human reproductive system or how contraception works

Ummm....You apparently haven't seen Rush's new wife. He even got Elton John to play at his reception (which drove some liberals NUTS).

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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 08:27:53 AM »
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Rush Limbaugh Isn’t the Only Media Misogynist
The Daily Beast ^ | March 4, 2012 | Kirsten Powers
Posted on March 4, 2012 11:03:03 AM EST by Kaslin

Rush Limbaugh apologized on Saturday for calling a Georgetown Law student a slut for testifying about contraception and starting a firestorm of outrage. Kirsten Powers says the liberals who led the charge need to start holding their own side accountable.

Did you know there is a war on women?

Yes, it’s true. Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Matt Taibbi, and Ed Schultz have been waging it for years with their misogynist outbursts. There have been boycotts by people on the left who are outraged that these guys still have jobs. Oh, wait. Sorry, that never happened.

Boycotts are reserved for people on the right like Rush Limbaugh, who finally apologized Saturday for calling a 30-year-old Georgetown Law student, Sandra Fluke, a “slut” after she testified before congress about contraception. Limbaugh’s apology was likely extracted to stop the departure of any more advertisers, who were rightly under pressure from liberal groups outraged by the comments.

Let it be shouted from the rooftops that Rush Limbaugh should not have called Ms. Fluke a slut or, as he added later, a “prostitute” who should post her sex tapes. It’s unlikely that his apology will assuage the people on a warpath for his scalp, and after all, why should it? He spent days attacking a woman as a slut and prostitute and refused to relent. Now because he doesn’t want to lose advertisers, he apologizes. What’s in order is something more like groveling—and of course a phone call to Ms. Fluke—if you ask me.

But if Limbaugh’s actions demand a boycott—and they do—then what about the army of swine on the left?


During the 2008 election Ed Schultz said on his radio show that Sarah Palin set off a “bimbo alert.” He called Laura Ingraham a “right-wing slut.” (He later apologized.) He once even took to his blog to call yours truly a “bimbo” for the offense of quoting him accurately in a New York Post column.

Keith Olbermann has said that conservative commentator S.E. Cupp should have been aborted by her parents, apparently because he finds her having opinions offensive. He called Michelle Malkin a “mashed-up bag of meat with lipstick.” He found it newsworthy to discuss Carrie Prejean’s breasts on his MSNBC show. His solution for dealing with Hillary Clinton, who he thought should drop out of the presidential race, was to find “somebody who can take her into a room and only he comes out.” Olbermann now works for über-leftist and former Democratic vice president Al Gore at Current TV.


The grand pooh-bah of media misogyny is without a doubt Bill Maher.

Left-wing darling Matt Taibbi wrote on his blog in 2009, “When I read [Malkin’s] stuff, I imagine her narrating her text, book-on-tape style, with a big, hairy set of balls in her mouth.” In a Rolling Stone article about Secretary of State Clinton, he referred to her “flabby arms.” When feminist writer Erica Jong criticized him for it, he responded by referring to Jong as an “800-year old sex novelist.” (Jong is almost 70, which apparently makes her an irrelevant human being.) In Taibbi’s profile of Congresswoman and presidential candidate Michele Bachmann he labeled her “batshit crazy.” (Oh, those “crazy” women with their hormones and all.)


Chris Matthews’s sickening misogyny was made famous in 2008, when he obsessively tore down Hillary Clinton for standing between Barack Obama and the presidency, something that Matthews could not abide. Over the years he has referred to the former first lady, senator and presidential candidate and current secretary of state as a “she-devil,” “Nurse Ratched,” and “Madame Defarge.” Matthews has also called Clinton “witchy,” “anti-male,” and “uppity” and once claimed she won her Senate seat only because her “husband messed around.” He asked a guest if “being surrounded by women” makes “a case for commander in chief—or does it make a case against it?” At some point Matthews was shamed into sort of half apologizing to Clinton, but then just picked up again with his sexist ramblings.

Matthews has wondered aloud whether Sarah Palin is even “capable of thinking” and has called Bachmann a “balloon head” and said she was “lucky we still don’t have literacy tests out there.” Democratic strategist Jehmu Greene, who is the former president of the Women’s Media Center, told Fox News’ Megyn Kelly in 2011 that Matthews
“is a bully, and his favorite target is women.” So why does he still have a show? What if his favorite target was Jews? Or African-Americans?

But the grand pooh-bah of media misogyny is without a doubt Bill Maher—who also happens to be a favorite of liberals—who has given $1 million to President Obama’s super PAC. Maher has called Palin a “dumb twat” and dropped the C-word in describing the former Alaska governor. He called Palin and Congresswoman Bachmann “boobs” and “two bimbos.” He said of the former vice-presidential candidate, “She is not a mean girl. She is a crazy girl with mean ideas.” He recently made a joke about Rick Santorum’s wife using a vibrator. Imagine now the same joke during the 2008 primary with Michelle Obama’s name in it, and tell me that he would still have a job. Maher said of a woman who was harassed while breast-feeding at an Applebee’s, “Don't show me your tits!” as though a woman feeding her child is trying to flash Maher. (Here’s a way to solve his problem: don’t stare at a strangers’ breasts). Then, his coup de grâce: “And by the way, there is a place where breasts and food do go together. It’s called Hooters!”


Liberals—you know, the people who say they “fight for women”—comprise Maher’s audience, and a parade of high-profile liberals make up his guest list. Yet have any of them confronted him? Nope. That was left to Ann Coulter, who actually called Maher a misogynist to his face, an opportunity that feminist icon Gloria Steinem failed to take when she appeared on his show in 2011.

This is not to suggest that liberals—or feminists—never complain about misogyny. Many feminist blogs now document attacks on women on the left and the right, including Jezebel, Shakesville, and the Women’s Media Center (which was cofounded by Steinem). But when it comes to high-profile campaigns to hold these men accountable—such as that waged against Limbaugh—the real fury seems reserved only for conservatives, while the men on the left get a wink and a nod as long as they are carrying water for the liberal cause.

After all, if Limbaugh’s outburst is part of the “war on women,” then what is the routine misogyny of liberal media men?


It’s time for some equal-opportunity accountability. Without it, the fight against media misogyny will continue to be perceived as a proxy war for the Democratic Party, not a fight for fair treatment of women in the public square.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2012, 08:35:18 AM »
hahahahahahahahahaha this sounds like the blame bush syndrome, priceless

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2012, 08:52:39 AM »
California NOW Chief: Calling Whitman a 'Whore' is Accurate (Flashback)
Fox News ^ | October 15, 2010 | Fox News
Posted on March 4, 2012 11:51:44 AM EST by Qbert

The president of the National Organization for Women may have said it's wrong for anyone to call a woman a "whore," but the head of the California NOW affiliate says Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman is one.

California NOW President Parry Bellasalma told the TPM blog on Thursday that the description of the Republican candidate for governor of California is accurate.

"Meg Whitman could be described as 'a political whore.' Yes, that's an accurate statement," Bellasalma said after a TPM blogger called to ask her about a story that appeared on the Daily Caller website.

In the Daily Caller report, Bellasalma said a conversation recorded by a voicemail system after Whitman's Democratic opponent, Jerry Brown, thought he'd hung up on the Los Angeles Police Protective League demonstrates that Whitman is a sell-out and thus deserving of the description.

"The very troubling issue that is embedded in that call is what prompted the description of Meg as a 'whore' is basically that she sold out Californians for an endorsement and a $450,000 independent expenditure campaign," Bellasalma told the Daily Caller.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2012, 09:08:15 AM »
Ummm....You apparently haven't seen Rush's new wife. He even got Elton John to play at his reception (which drove some liberals NUTS).

Rush has another wife?  I not as caught up on his personal life as you are
Is she pregnant.  If not I assume she is using contraception paid for by her medical insurance.   I guess she's a prostitute and a slut

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2012, 12:42:56 PM »
Rush has another wife?  I not as caught up on his personal life as you are
Is she pregnant.  If not I assume she is using contraception paid for by her medical insurance.   I guess she's a prostitute and a slut

Rush and his wife probably pay for it themselves and dont believe that other people should pay for it, nor do they believe that insurance companies should be forced to cover it. All it would do is make contraception itelf MORE expensive and make insurance premiums unnecessarily more expensive.  Thats the point Strawman.

Limbaugh went to far here, but what he was trying to do is to convey to people how absurd it is for the government to pay for contraception.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2012, 01:10:05 PM »
Rush and his wife probably pay for it themselves and dont believe that other people should pay for it, nor do they believe that insurance companies should be forced to cover it. All it would do is make contraception itelf MORE expensive and make insurance premiums unnecessarily more expensive.  Thats the point Strawman.

Limbaugh went to far here, but what he was trying to do is to convey to people how absurd it is for the government to pay for contraception.

and who pays the insurance premiums for the group plan at Georgetown

presumably the students or their parents pay the premium

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2012, 01:12:55 PM »
rush is right on the issue and the woman is wrong.

however, politically, he does great damage to the GOP brand by calling her a slut.  it cannot be argued - he admits it was wrong now too.   To defend his words is to try to sell us a recalled car - even rush admits it was wrong.  so you guys dont have to defend his statement now.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2012, 01:17:04 PM »
rush is right on the issue and the woman is wrong.

however, politically, he does great damage to the GOP brand by calling her a slut.  it cannot be argued - he admits it was wrong now too.   To defend his words is to try to sell us a recalled car - even rush admits it was wrong.  so you guys dont have to defend his statement now.

what is Rush right about?

what is Fluke wrong about?

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2012, 01:19:27 PM »
what is Rush right about?

what is Fluke wrong about?

i believe an organization should be able to decide if condoms/BC is included in plans or left out in bathrooms.

she knew that going in, and attended anyway, just to sue, right?  See, that's some lame shit to me.

But calling her a slut is politically stupid, and stupid on the business side too, as sponsors are jumping and it's not like the new ones are going to pay top dollar to be known as "the company that joined AFTER he called this girl a slut".

Just a bad idea all around, IMO.

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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2012, 01:31:39 PM »
 :)

This entire shit show was orchastrated months and months ago by obama pelosi fluke and the left wing govt media complex. 

Want proof?   Remember george stephanopolous bringing this up at one of the debates months ago?   Shortly thereafter obama and sebellius announced their decision on menglecare and the church.   

This is pure alinsky communist street thug theatre to divert attention away from obamas failed presidency and spiking energy prices. 

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2012, 01:32:00 PM »
i believe an organization should be able to decide if condoms/BC is included in plans or left out in bathrooms.

she knew that going in, and attended anyway, just to sue, right?  See, that's some lame shit to me.

But calling her a slut is politically stupid, and stupid on the business side too, as sponsors are jumping and it's not like the new ones are going to pay top dollar to be known as "the company that joined AFTER he called this girl a slut".

Just a bad idea all around, IMO.

you're aware her testimony had nothing to do with condoms right ?

how do you know she "knew going in" what their plan covered and why would that even matter ?

She has every right to express her opinion on the subject without being being called a prostitute or a slut and if Rush is dumb enough to believe she wants him or anyone to pay her health insurance premium then they are just completely uninformed

I assume you're also aware that Republicans have previously sponsored, supported  and signed laws with a contraception mandates  which had no exemptions for religious employers of any kind.

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2012, 01:37:23 PM »
I assume you're also aware that Republicans have previously sponsored, supported  and signed laws with a contraception mandates  which had no exemptions for religious employers of any kind.


this would make them major hypocrites.   proof?

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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2012, 02:03:53 PM »

this would make them major hypocrites.   proof?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=417486.0

Before current birth-control fight, Republicans backed mandates

Republicans are fighting a birth-control rule in President Obama's healthcare law, but several states have enacted contraceptive mandates with the support of GOP lawmakers and governors.

February 15, 2012|By Kim Geiger and Noam N. Levey, Washington BureauReporting from Washington — Since President Obama moved to require Catholic hospitals and universities to offer their employees contraceptive health benefits, Republicans have rushed to accuse the administration of an unprecedented attack on religious freedoms.

None has been more forceful than former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who accused Obama of "a direct violation of the 1st Amendment." But years before the current partisan firestorm, GOP lawmakers and governors around the country, including Huckabee, backed similar mandates.


Twenty-two states have laws or regulations that resemble, at least in part, the Obama administration's original rule. More than a third had some Republican support, a review of state records shows.

In six states, including Arkansas, those contraceptive mandates were signed by GOP governors.

In Massachusetts in 2006, then-Gov. Mitt Romney signed a healthcare overhaul that kept in place a contraceptive mandate signed by his Republican predecessor. Now the GOP presidential candidate is calling the Obama rule an "assault on religion."

At the federal level, President George W. Bush never challenged a similar federal mandate imposed in 2000.

The state laws were the product of a campaign by women's groups and others that began after insurers started covering Viagra for men.


The cause has always drawn more support from Democrats, who pushed successfully in 2010 to include a provision in the healthcare law designed to expand women's access to preventive services like contraception.

But until recently, many Republicans also supported expanding access to contraceptives, even if it meant angering some religious constituencies.

In 1997, Sen. Olympia J. Snowe of Maine and then-Rep.James C. Greenwood of Pennsylvania cosponsored bills aimed at requiring contraceptive coverage nationally. Seven additional Senate Republicans and 15 other House Republicans signed on to the legislation, though it never became law.

Three years later, the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which is responsible for enforcing laws against workplace discrimination, ruled all employers with more than 15 workers must cover contraceptives for women if they offer health plans that cover preventive services and prescription drugs.

When Republicans took control of Washington after Bush won the 2000 presidential election, his administration could have challenged that requirement, as it did other mandates.

But in his 2001 confirmation hearings to be attorney general, John Ashcroft told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he would "defend the rule" promulgated by the EEOC.

The original Obama regulation, released in January, went further than any state by requiring that women receive contraceptive benefits without co-pays or deductibles, as required for all preventive care under the healthcare law. But in exempting only some religious organizations, the administration followed what had become the approach used by many states.

The administration would have exempted an employer that "has the inculcation of religious values as its purpose," primarily employs and serves people of the same religion, and is a nonprofit.

That standard was understood to exempt churches, but not religiously affiliated hospitals and universities.

In the face of fierce blow-back, the administration has since proposed a compromise that makes insurers, rather than employers, responsible for the cost of contraceptive coverage for employees of religiously affiliated institutions.

Congressional Republicans are pushing legislation to exempt all employers from providing contraceptive coverage if it goes against their beliefs.

In 2000, when Iowa became one of the first states to enact a contraceptive mandate, the Republican Legislature overwhelmingly backed the bill, which has no exemption for religious employers of any kind.
Even one of the law's few opponents did not move to exempt religious employers at the time, records show. Republican Rep. Steve King, a leading conservative who was then a state senator, instead proposed to exempt employers who did not cover Viagra. "We were not fighting the battle over conscience protection then," King said in an interview this week.

In Arizona, state Rep. Linda Binder, a pro-choice Republican, formed a bipartisan coalition to push her bill, which exempted churches but not other church-affiliated institutions, through the Republican-controlled Legislature. Then-Gov. Jane Hull, a Republican and a Catholic, signed the measure into law.

In New York, a similar law also won GOP support in the Legislature. It was signed in 2001 by Gov. George E. Pataki, another Republican.

Four years later, the Arkansas law easily cleared that state's Legislature, with help from Republican lawmakers, including two GOP cosponsors. Huckabee signed it in April 2005.

He defended the law in a statement. "Religious employers are not required to comply with this policy," he said. "My position is, and always has been, that religious entities shouldn't be forced to pay for contraception."

But like the original federal regulation proposed by Obama, the Arkansas law did not exempt church-affiliated hospitals and universities. It exempts only "religious employers" that are nonprofit organizations whose primary mission is "the inculcation of religious values," and primarily employ people who share the same religion, a standard few Catholic hospitals meet.



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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2012, 02:07:57 PM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=417486.0

Before current birth-control fight, Republicans backed mandates

Republicans are fighting a birth-control rule in President Obama's healthcare law, but several states have enacted contraceptive mandates with the support of GOP lawmakers and governors.

February 15, 2012|By Kim Geiger and Noam N. Levey, Washington BureauReporting from Washington — Since President Obama moved to require Catholic hospitals and universities to offer their employees contraceptive health benefits, Republicans have rushed to accuse the administration of an unprecedented attack on religious freedoms.

None has been more forceful than former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who accused Obama of "a direct violation of the 1st Amendment." But years before the current partisan firestorm, GOP lawmakers and governors around the country, including Huckabee, backed similar mandates.


Twenty-two states have laws or regulations that resemble, at least in part, the Obama administration's original rule. More than a third had some Republican support, a review of state records shows.

In six states, including Arkansas, those contraceptive mandates were signed by GOP governors.

In Massachusetts in 2006, then-Gov. Mitt Romney signed a healthcare overhaul that kept in place a contraceptive mandate signed by his Republican predecessor. Now the GOP presidential candidate is calling the Obama rule an "assault on religion."

At the federal level, President George W. Bush never challenged a similar federal mandate imposed in 2000.

The state laws were the product of a campaign by women's groups and others that began after insurers started covering Viagra for men.


The cause has always drawn more support from Democrats, who pushed successfully in 2010 to include a provision in the healthcare law designed to expand women's access to preventive services like contraception.

But until recently, many Republicans also supported expanding access to contraceptives, even if it meant angering some religious constituencies.

In 1997, Sen. Olympia J. Snowe of Maine and then-Rep.James C. Greenwood of Pennsylvania cosponsored bills aimed at requiring contraceptive coverage nationally. Seven additional Senate Republicans and 15 other House Republicans signed on to the legislation, though it never became law.

Three years later, the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which is responsible for enforcing laws against workplace discrimination, ruled all employers with more than 15 workers must cover contraceptives for women if they offer health plans that cover preventive services and prescription drugs.

When Republicans took control of Washington after Bush won the 2000 presidential election, his administration could have challenged that requirement, as it did other mandates.

But in his 2001 confirmation hearings to be attorney general, John Ashcroft told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he would "defend the rule" promulgated by the EEOC.

The original Obama regulation, released in January, went further than any state by requiring that women receive contraceptive benefits without co-pays or deductibles, as required for all preventive care under the healthcare law. But in exempting only some religious organizations, the administration followed what had become the approach used by many states.

The administration would have exempted an employer that "has the inculcation of religious values as its purpose," primarily employs and serves people of the same religion, and is a nonprofit.

That standard was understood to exempt churches, but not religiously affiliated hospitals and universities.

In the face of fierce blow-back, the administration has since proposed a compromise that makes insurers, rather than employers, responsible for the cost of contraceptive coverage for employees of religiously affiliated institutions.

Congressional Republicans are pushing legislation to exempt all employers from providing contraceptive coverage if it goes against their beliefs.

In 2000, when Iowa became one of the first states to enact a contraceptive mandate, the Republican Legislature overwhelmingly backed the bill, which has no exemption for religious employers of any kind.
Even one of the law's few opponents did not move to exempt religious employers at the time, records show. Republican Rep. Steve King, a leading conservative who was then a state senator, instead proposed to exempt employers who did not cover Viagra. "We were not fighting the battle over conscience protection then," King said in an interview this week.

In Arizona, state Rep. Linda Binder, a pro-choice Republican, formed a bipartisan coalition to push her bill, which exempted churches but not other church-affiliated institutions, through the Republican-controlled Legislature. Then-Gov. Jane Hull, a Republican and a Catholic, signed the measure into law.

In New York, a similar law also won GOP support in the Legislature. It was signed in 2001 by Gov. George E. Pataki, another Republican.

Four years later, the Arkansas law easily cleared that state's Legislature, with help from Republican lawmakers, including two GOP cosponsors. Huckabee signed it in April 2005.

He defended the law in a statement. "Religious employers are not required to comply with this policy," he said. "My position is, and always has been, that religious entities shouldn't be forced to pay for contraception."

But like the original federal regulation proposed by Obama, the Arkansas law did not exempt church-affiliated hospitals and universities. It exempts only "religious employers" that are nonprofit organizations whose primary mission is "the inculcation of religious values," and primarily employ people who share the same religion, a standard few Catholic hospitals meet.



OUCH lol... you probably won't get many comments on this lol

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Re: Rush Limbaugh articulates the Sandra Fluke Fraud perfectly
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2012, 02:27:34 PM »
damn, that's embarassing.  lots of republicans backed this before.


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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2012, 02:29:40 PM »
Its wrong either way - government should not mandate what private insurance companies offer.
Its not a matter of "its ok because they backed it before", thats the same tired "well Bush did it so its ok if Obama does it"
Both are wrong. Period.

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2012, 02:36:40 PM »
Its wrong either way - government should not mandate what private insurance companies offer.
Its not a matter of "its ok because they backed it before", thats the same tired "well Bush did it so its ok if Obama does it"
Both are wrong. Period.

government certainly has the right to regulate commerce and healthcare insurance is part of commerce

government has a vested interest in having a healthly citizens and no one is mandating that any individual person must avail themselves of contraception or anything else

people are free to eat like shit, smoke, drink, have unprotected sex, etc....

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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2012, 06:39:04 PM »
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Posted on March 3, 2012 11:43:31 PM EST by gaijin

Dale Carlsen was about 24 years old and had been merely selling mattresses, but finally Dale got frustrated and went into the biz for himself. He was coming up on having to make a payment on the loan for his new, tiny mattress company.

He didn't have much money, and this loan was at over 20% interest, ok?

Worse was that Dale had chosen the location of his first mattress store in gritty South Sacramento, near Sac State, alongside some train tracks, next to a flea market. He'd thought the flea market foot traffic would bring customers, but in fact flea market afficianados are not huge mattress spenders, right?

And in fact that first Sleep Train location had lots of drug dealers and SLUTS nearby --I'm serious.

So in fact young Dale was looking at a major business failure for his little struggling company. But next door to his little disheveled mattress dump was a pizza place, and that's where Dale, the CEO of the erstwhile tiny Sleep Train, Inc. would eat:

A drummer had taken time off from touring with his band to sell radio ads for KFBK, a Sacramento radio station, simply cuz his buddy worked there. So this drummer had gotten this gig as an, "Account Exec" and he would eat at the pizza place next to Dale's tiny, dumpy mattress store:

One day Dejected Dale is staring off into space over an oily pool in a piece of pepperoni, muttering about not being able to sell mattresses to sluts (a bit like that Georgetown feminazi from hell, except that these really were pro sluts). Meanwhile sitting next to him was Mr. Radio Account Exec, drumming his hands on the table, and he chirps back to Dale's, to cheer him up a bit, "Well there's a new guy at KFBK who just moved into town, and he needs a mattress..."

Dale goes, "OK well send him by..."

Maybe you have figured out that this guy who needed a mattress was Rush Limbaugh...?

OK well, poor fat Rush (who by that time had been fired 7 times and was 42 or so) waddles into Dale's place to buy his mattress for his tiny and empty apartment in none other than Rio Linda (which was the only place poor Rush could afford to live in Sacramento, at the time).

Rush bought a mattress, and being a natural salesman also convinced Dale to consider advertising on his show, on KFBK.

And Dale did exactly that, he took out ads on the show of fat, poor Rush Limbaugh, the unknown whose career would shoot skyward like a P51, and completely transform AM radio from an empty backwater for kooks and weather afficianados into a hotbed of politics and a, "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy".

And Rush turned on the charm, and talked up Dale's mattresses so much that they drove from miles and miles around, saying, "I want the same mattress Rush sleeps on..."

And so with that thunderclap of Rush-mediated publicity it turned out that Dale could make the payment on his +20% interest loan --he survived. And soon after he opened up a branch adjoining the parking lot of Rush's station, so intimate was the link between the growing success of each man.

And now Dale Carlsen has over 250 stores, in Sleep Train, making 1/3 of a billion dollars yearly.

But then something happened:

Dale fired Rush, the saleman extraordinaire, who'd saved Dale decades before.

Why?

--> Because Rush insulted dishonest feminist who thinks the government should pay for contraceptives. < --

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