MESSAGE TO MODS - I ENCOURAGE ALL MEMBERS TO PLEASED READ

[BiGHer]

Go pimp these kigs on the board where kami sources on! this is not a open source board and kami owes alot of people here! all they should do is email for their reshipment. they did not order thaitropin or bluetops they ordered kigtropin so if he has it he should ship it to them! all he shipped them was trash.don't do this again!

The above was a recent PM I received from White Widow, a MODERATOR on this board.

I have quite a few things to say here, but I am truly disgusted by the fact that a moderator feels it appropriate to speak to board members this way.  I have never been anything but respectful to mods and members of this board.  I have offered my honest opinions that come from first hand experience.  I am not "pimping" product out for anyone.  I am not responsible for any other individuals lost money, who they order from, or what products they choose to take (if any).

I will go on record here and formally apologize for mentioning the name of a source which we can all agree is a no-no, but the Kigtropin thing is obviously a hot button issue and I feel as an upstanding member of this board to report on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with the products that I use.  I'm not endorsing anyone and I have made very clear that people need to take accountability for their own actions.  You mention the board that Kami sources on?  I couldn't even tell you what that board is.  I'll put myself on complete blast here: I am a member of GetBig and Anabolic Board.  I have logged onto AB about 5-10 times total and I did solely so I could communicate with DL (a source over there who once I got in touch with via email, I never went back on and limited my communication to that).  I am a proud active member of GETBIG.  IMO, the BEST bodybuilding forum on the internet.  I post honestly.  I respond respectfully to PM's from other members and mods (including you WhiteWidow or are you so quick to forget our several honest exchanges about my experiences with Euroman!), which I have gotten several of.  Actually, I am going to request any member of this board to come forward now and tell me if I have ever disrespected them or ignored a PM or not offered my honest opinion on a thread when asked for it!

Pimping product?  Excuse me.  I dont need to.  I work full time and make enough money to buy gh from Kami or any other supplier that I choose!  I have never pushed 1 supplier on this board!  I have often referred to my useage with the strange guy, the name who shouldn't be mentioned, euro, dl, and others (I apologize again for mentioning sources, but for WW to come at me this way is a joke!!).  Actually, I work in the supplement industry and my company sells product to Ron Avidan who owns DNA.  As I sit at my work computer now, oh look... here's Ron's phone #: xx8-x4x-x5xx.  I met him last year in person.  I am heavily debating calling him to discuss how his Mods feel it is appropriate to speak this way to members and make assumptions about people they in no way personally know anything about.

Here would be an example of an appropriate PM to a member from a Mod:

BiGHer:

While we appreciate you being an active member of this board, please understand that this is not an open source board and we feel it inappropriate to mention sources names.  Please take this as a warning, but next time we will have to place your account on time out.

Respectfully,
WhiteWidow
Getbig Moderator - Steroids Info and Hardcore


Let me be clear: I felt that the Kigtropin issue was a hot button and seeing as I think people respect my opinion on this board, I thought it only be right that I report my honest assessment of a product that I used.  I said that Kami had quality gh because he sent me gh and it was good.  He also provided me with the information of serum tests he conducted and pointed me in the direction of other boards that were having members conduct serum tests if I wanted to look at their results.  I tried the kits he sent me and they were GREAT.  I figured I would at least inform the members of GetBig.  I thought I made it very clear to the members that they should make a decision about who they buy from carefully and NOT BUY from Kami if they didn't feel comfortable doing so.  I also lost money on thos kigs.  I also got sent Taitropin.  I will also now choose to get gh from Kami as long as the quality stays consistant.  I am entitled to my own choise to do so and if I were to lose money then that's my loss and not a concern for anyone else.

I communicate via email with Kami and I have made very clear to him that I think consistancy is extremely important and that all bodybuilders get the same high quality product that I recently received.  Email Kami yourself and ask him.  I've pulled no punches in my conversations with him and he respects that!

So let me be clear to everyone... buy from Kami or don't buy from Kami.  I care that all bodybuilders get quality product and consistantly.  Where you choose to buy it from is on you!! Not me!!  

I am stepping away from GetBig for a while.  Members, feel free to PM me as I greatly care about this board, but I will no longer share my personal experiences or reports on products or posting of progress photos or provide my honest opinions on pretty much anything on an open thread until WW apologizes for addressing me the way he did.  It's inappropriate and not right for a mod to address a member this way and make accusations against someone he doesn't know.  This is why I also tried to become a Mod on the steroid section.  I value this place and it's members.

BTW:

I PMed Ron about a Mod position a few months back and this is what he told me was important of being a mod:

Need to be fair and impartial (not easy). Need to find a board that isnt moderated enough, and ask.

Ron

FAIR AND IMPARTIAL!  Members, if I'm being crazy, please let me know, but you tell me if you think this moderator addressed me fair and impartially!


I have made it a point and take pride in the fact that I tend to avoid all the BS and drama that takes place in this little internet board world, but I will not be accused of things that aren't true or be told to "go pimp these kigs" elsewhere.  I don't make accusations about any other members on this board and I treat people here with respect... yeah, I joke around and poke fun like we all do from time to time here on the thunderdome, but in the end, I'm not going to be talked down to like some child by a board mod who feels he can make assumptions about me and make me out to have alterior motives.


Sincerely,

BiGHer

PS. When I do come back and resume posting, I will not mention another source.  I will mention products and if I'm taking Kigtropin then I'm gonna tell you all that I'm taking Kigtropin whether you like it or not!!!

[El Diablo Blanco]

ease up man. WW is a cool cat.  he's just trying to limit sourcing on this board.  Ron has made it clear he doesn't want sources being pushed.

[BiGHer]

ease up man. WW is a cool cat.  he's just trying to limit sourcing on this board.  Ron has made it clear he doesn't want sources being pushed.

Agreed, but there is right and wrong way to go about things.  How this was handled was not correct.

[LurkerNoMore]

Too much to read.

[Marlo Stanfield]

The above was a recent PM I received from White Widow, a MODERATOR on this board.

I have quite a few things to say here, but I am truly disgusted by the fact that a moderator feels it appropriate to speak to board members this way.  I have never been anything but respectful to mods and members of this board.  I have offered my honest opinions that come from first hand experience.  I am not "pimping" product out for anyone.  I am not responsible for any other individuals lost money, who they order from, or what products they choose to take (if any).

I will go on record here and formally apologize for mentioning the name of a source which we can all agree is a no-no, but the Kigtropin thing is obviously a hot button issue and I feel as an upstanding member of this board to report on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with the products that I use.  I'm not endorsing anyone and I have made very clear that people need to take accountability for their own actions.  You mention the board that Kami sources on?  I couldn't even tell you what that board is.  I'll put myself on complete blast here: I am a member of GetBig and Anabolic Board.  I have logged onto AB about 5-10 times total and I did solely so I could communicate with DL (a source over there who once I got in touch with via email, I never went back on and limited my communication to that).  I am a proud active member of GETBIG.  IMO, the BEST bodybuilding forum on the internet.  I post honestly.  I respond respectfully to PM's from other members and mods (including you WhiteWidow or are you so quick to forget our several honest exchanges about my experiences with Euroman!), which I have gotten several of.  Actually, I am going to request any member of this board to come forward now and tell me if I have ever disrespected them or ignored a PM or not offered my honest opinion on a thread when asked for it!

Pimping product?  Excuse me.  I dont need to.  I work full time and make enough money to buy gh from Kami or any other supplier that I choose!  I have never pushed 1 supplier on this board!  I have often referred to my useage with the strange guy, the name who shouldn't be mentioned, euro, dl, and others (I apologize again for mentioning sources, but for WW to come at me this way is a joke!!).  Actually, I work in the supplement industry and my company sells product to Ron Avidan who owns DNA.  As I sit at my work computer now, oh look... here's Ron's phone #: xx8-x4x-x5xx.  I met him last year in person.  I am heavily debating calling him to discuss how his Mods feel it is appropriate to speak this way to members and make assumptions about people they in no way personally know anything about.

Here would be an example of an appropriate PM to a member from a Mod:

BiGHer:

While we appreciate you being an active member of this board, please understand that this is not an open source board and we feel it inappropriate to mention sources names.  Please take this as a warning, but next time we will have to place your account on time out.

Respectfully,
WhiteWidow
Getbig Moderator - Steroids Info and Hardcore


Let me be clear: I felt that the Kigtropin issue was a hot button and seeing as I think people respect my opinion on this board, I thought it only be right that I report my honest assessment of a product that I used.  I said that Kami had quality gh because he sent me gh and it was good.  He also provided me with the information of serum tests he conducted and pointed me in the direction of other boards that were having members conduct serum tests if I wanted to look at their results.  I tried the kits he sent me and they were GREAT.  I figured I would at least inform the members of GetBig.  I thought I made it very clear to the members that they should make a decision about who they buy from carefully and NOT BUY from Kami if they didn't feel comfortable doing so.  I also lost money on thos kigs.  I also got sent Taitropin.  I will also now choose to get gh from Kami as long as the quality stays consistant.  I am entitled to my own choise to do so and if I were to lose money then that's my loss and not a concern for anyone else.

I communicate via email with Kami and I have made very clear to him that I think consistancy is extremely important and that all bodybuilders get the same high quality product that I recently received.  Email Kami yourself and ask him.  I've pulled no punches in my conversations with him and he respects that!

So let me be clear to everyone... buy from Kami or don't buy from Kami.  I care that all bodybuilders get quality product and consistantly.  Where you choose to buy it from is on you!! Not me!!  

I am stepping away from GetBig for a while.  Members, feel free to PM me as I greatly care about this board, but I will no longer share my personal experiences or reports on products or posting of progress photos or provide my honest opinions on pretty much anything on an open thread until WW apologizes for addressing me the way he did.  It's inappropriate and not right for a mod to address a member this way and make accusations against someone he doesn't know.  This is why I also tried to become a Mod on the steroid section.  I value this place and it's members.

BTW:

I PMed Ron about a Mod position a few months back and this is what he told me was important of being a mod:

FAIR AND IMPARTIAL!  Members, if I'm being crazy, please let me know, but you tell me if you think this moderator addressed me fair and impartially!


I have made it a point and take pride in the fact that I tend to avoid all the BS and drama that takes place in this little internet board world, but I will not be accused of things that aren't true or be told to "go pimp these kigs" elsewhere.  I don't make accusations about any other members on this board and I treat people here with respect... yeah, I joke around and poke fun like we all do from time to time here on the thunderdome, but in the end, I'm not going to be talked down to like some child by a board mod who feels he can make assumptions about me and make me out to have alterior motives.


Sincerely,

BiGHer

PS. When I do come back and resume posting, I will not mention another source.  I will mention products and if I'm taking Kigtropin then I'm gonna tell you all that I'm taking Kigtropin whether you like it or not!!!

BiGHer ( lol for some reason i read your name as a bisexual GH user )but anyways

1) its not cool to post PMs. Under no circumstances. Since you are so literal, PM = PRIVATE message... private between the 2 parties, unless others were CCed.

2) WW seems to be ok ( although i dont like his constant mention and something thinking its cool to be on xanax and suggesting xanax to anyone who mentions hard time fallin sleep). But you have to understand... your a big guy, remember the first time someone came and asked you how you got so big ? you probably gave a thorough answer.... remember the 500th time someone asked you that same thing? you probably told him to fuck off and leave you alone.... you gotta realize that these mods deal with source mentioning all day, so the last person they expect it is for standup guys like you . im not saying he spoke to you properly, im saying i understand his frustration, specially with a source who has fucked over alot of folks

3) you also have to be smart and listen what he MEANT TO SAY ... obviously your smart enough to understand what he meant, because you rephrased it very politely. So ne need for a thread and POST PMs and whatnot. Just send him a message and say " hey bro, sorry i source mentioned, but also, thats no way to talk to a longtime member here."

 4) and for you to get upset over this and leave the board??? well thats a girly move IMO...

5) no source posting period. your upset about how your slap on the wrist was? not cool bro, not manly to complain because you got your feelings hurt.  WW said that to you in PM in anger, if he had accused you of pushing bunk on the open forum, that a diff story... you posting his PM reminds me of the Booty vs James Robinson thread

[Tiny Coq]

OMFG!!! put your tampon back in mate.

[BiGHer]

BiGHer ( lol for some reason i read your name as a bisexual GH user )but anyways

1) its not cool to post PMs. Under no circumstances. Since you are so literal, PM = PRIVATE message... private between the 2 parties, unless others were CCed.

2) WW seems to be ok ( although i dont like his constant mention and something thinking its cool to be on xanax and suggesting xanax to anyone who mentions hard time fallin sleep). But you have to understand... your a big guy, remember the first time someone came and asked you how you got so big ? you probably gave a thorough answer.... remember the 500th time someone asked you that same thing? you probably told him to fuck off and leave you alone.... you gotta realize that these mods deal with source mentioning all day, so the last person they expect it is for standup guys like you . im not saying he spoke to you properly, im saying i understand his frustration, specially with a source who has fucked over alot of folks

3) you also have to be smart and listen what he MEANT TO SAY ... obviously your smart enough to understand what he meant, because you rephrased it very politely. So ne need for a thread and POST PMs and whatnot. Just send him a message and say " hey bro, sorry i source mentioned, but also, thats no way to talk to a longtime member here."

 4) and for you to get upset over this and leave the board??? well thats a girly move IMO...

Marlo,

Thanks for the response - It's Big GH User, just an FYI.

1) I agree to an extent.  If I was respectfully PMed, I would have handled this in a respectful manner.  However once respect got tossed out the window, no reason to be respectful of the message being Private anymore IMO.

2) Your second point is somewhat valid, but how about confronting someone and talking to them like an adult before locking a thread and sending PM's with the subject reading "Not Here Buddy!"

3)  I think you're being a little forgiving.  Yes he meant to say "don't discuss sources here," but telling me that I'm pimping out products... I don't really take that as a typo.

4) I'm not going anywhere... I love getbig.  I'm just not going to take as active of a role.  I think I have some pretty decent info to share and some decent experience to talk about, but obviously sharing such things honestly gets frowned upon around here.

Again, I hear what your saying, but I still think my points are very valid.

[BiGHer]

OMFG!!! put your tampon back in mate.

No can do bro, sorry.  I'm a maxi pads kinda guy

[goomba420]

stop being a bitch

members of this board have lost THOUSANDS! because your daddy gh15 pimped kigs the same way you are. WW is hasn't done anything wrong , you're just offended that he messaged you in a non professional manner? get a grip! this is a steroid board not a doctors office

[tbombz]

The above was a recent PM I received from White Widow, a MODERATOR on this board.

I have quite a few things to say here, but I am truly disgusted by the fact that a moderator feels it appropriate to speak to board members this way.  I have never been anything but respectful to mods and members of this board.  I have offered my honest opinions that come from first hand experience.  I am not "pimping" product out for anyone.  I am not responsible for any other individuals lost money, who they order from, or what products they choose to take (if any).

I will go on record here and formally apologize for mentioning the name of a source which we can all agree is a no-no, but the Kigtropin thing is obviously a hot button issue and I feel as an upstanding member of this board to report on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with the products that I use.  I'm not endorsing anyone and I have made very clear that people need to take accountability for their own actions.  You mention the board that Kami sources on?  I couldn't even tell you what that board is.  I'll put myself on complete blast here: I am a member of GetBig and Anabolic Board.  I have logged onto AB about 5-10 times total and I did solely so I could communicate with DL (a source over there who once I got in touch with via email, I never went back on and limited my communication to that).  I am a proud active member of GETBIG.  IMO, the BEST bodybuilding forum on the internet.  I post honestly.  I respond respectfully to PM's from other members and mods (including you WhiteWidow or are you so quick to forget our several honest exchanges about my experiences with Euroman!), which I have gotten several of.  Actually, I am going to request any member of this board to come forward now and tell me if I have ever disrespected them or ignored a PM or not offered my honest opinion on a thread when asked for it!

Pimping product?  Excuse me.  I dont need to.  I work full time and make enough money to buy gh from Kami or any other supplier that I choose!  I have never pushed 1 supplier on this board!  I have often referred to my useage with the strange guy, the name who shouldn't be mentioned, euro, dl, and others (I apologize again for mentioning sources, but for WW to come at me this way is a joke!!).  Actually, I work in the supplement industry and my company sells product to Ron Avidan who owns DNA.  As I sit at my work computer now, oh look... here's Ron's phone #: xx8-x4x-x5xx.  I met him last year in person.  I am heavily debating calling him to discuss how his Mods feel it is appropriate to speak this way to members and make assumptions about people they in no way personally know anything about.

Here would be an example of an appropriate PM to a member from a Mod:

BiGHer:

While we appreciate you being an active member of this board, please understand that this is not an open source board and we feel it inappropriate to mention sources names.  Please take this as a warning, but next time we will have to place your account on time out.

Respectfully,
WhiteWidow
Getbig Moderator - Steroids Info and Hardcore


Let me be clear: I felt that the Kigtropin issue was a hot button and seeing as I think people respect my opinion on this board, I thought it only be right that I report my honest assessment of a product that I used.  I said that Kami had quality gh because he sent me gh and it was good.  He also provided me with the information of serum tests he conducted and pointed me in the direction of other boards that were having members conduct serum tests if I wanted to look at their results.  I tried the kits he sent me and they were GREAT.  I figured I would at least inform the members of GetBig.  I thought I made it very clear to the members that they should make a decision about who they buy from carefully and NOT BUY from Kami if they didn't feel comfortable doing so.  I also lost money on thos kigs.  I also got sent Taitropin.  I will also now choose to get gh from Kami as long as the quality stays consistant.  I am entitled to my own choise to do so and if I were to lose money then that's my loss and not a concern for anyone else.

I communicate via email with Kami and I have made very clear to him that I think consistancy is extremely important and that all bodybuilders get the same high quality product that I recently received.  Email Kami yourself and ask him.  I've pulled no punches in my conversations with him and he respects that!

So let me be clear to everyone... buy from Kami or don't buy from Kami.  I care that all bodybuilders get quality product and consistantly.  Where you choose to buy it from is on you!! Not me!!  

I am stepping away from GetBig for a while.  Members, feel free to PM me as I greatly care about this board, but I will no longer share my personal experiences or reports on products or posting of progress photos or provide my honest opinions on pretty much anything on an open thread until WW apologizes for addressing me the way he did.  It's inappropriate and not right for a mod to address a member this way and make accusations against someone he doesn't know.  This is why I also tried to become a Mod on the steroid section.  I value this place and it's members.

BTW:

I PMed Ron about a Mod position a few months back and this is what he told me was important of being a mod:

FAIR AND IMPARTIAL!  Members, if I'm being crazy, please let me know, but you tell me if you think this moderator addressed me fair and impartially!


I have made it a point and take pride in the fact that I tend to avoid all the BS and drama that takes place in this little internet board world, but I will not be accused of things that aren't true or be told to "go pimp these kigs" elsewhere.  I don't make accusations about any other members on this board and I treat people here with respect... yeah, I joke around and poke fun like we all do from time to time here on the thunderdome, but in the end, I'm not going to be talked down to like some child by a board mod who feels he can make assumptions about me and make me out to have alterior motives.


Sincerely,

BiGHer

PS. When I do come back and resume posting, I will not mention another source.  I will mention products and if I'm taking Kigtropin then I'm gonna tell you all that I'm taking Kigtropin whether you like it or not!!!

[phil mcgroin]

bigher ,i think ww is in the right.i think we all agree no sourcing. you should also understand a man with your build is going to be listend to. if you mention something everyone is going to try it,your words hold alot of weight.with your build comes a different code of conduct,you have to be more carefull what you say then others.

[Overload]

You are more than welcome to post your opinions brother.

I must admit I think this is a bit overboard.

Calling Ron?

Come on now.

I will let WW speak on this, i have no problem with you, but I think this is uncalled for and a waste of time. You guys can go after him from every angle and he's still going to be a mod here.

Take care.

[Growth NOOB]

You are being unreasonable.  WW didn't even come across rude to you.  You blatantly broke the rules and the worst he said was "don't do this again." 

I mean really bro, how could you be that upset over that PM?  You're a good dude and give some good info, but you are definitely over reacting here.

[BiGHer]

It's not just the manner I was approached in here, it's accusations being made toward me with no grounds.  WW and I have discussed through PM's sources in the past... he could have hit me up and asked my reasoning for mentioning a source instead of accusing me of "pimping product."

I apologized in my OP for mentioning a sources name, I acknowledged that it's a "no-no."  That's why I was also clear in saying that I won't be discussing certain things anymore. 

[Rearden Metal]

You are more than welcome to post your opinions brother.

I must admit I think this is a bit overboard.

Calling Ron?

Come on now.

I will let WW speak on this, i have no problem with you, but I think this is uncalled for and a waste of time. You guys can go after him from every angle and he's still going to be a mod here.

Take care.

Why is WW immune to criticism? Who's agenda is he carrying out that lets him do such a terrible job as mod?

This is why Getbig is dying. Most mods are inactive and many who are left are SKETCHY as hell. And this is why gh15s board will be the pinnacle, because people like BiGher will be mods. People who care about the sport and contribute in huge ways.

[whitewidow]

C'mon you mentioned the source in your title! posting sources names is a not right and you mentioned ike 3 times Kami had new kigs! why would you do that? you obviously have a agenda. Kami owes this board thousands of dollars! He is a shitty soource who scammed alot of people! Even GH15 called him a scammer and not to order from him! if you just took a picture and didn't mention any sources or mention Kami had new pharm grade kits that would of been fine! or you could of PM'ed people. I approached this like I did because you knew what you did was wrong! don't act like you didn't! Dont act like you are not getting anything for free or a offer from kami to get something for free for posting that.

[qbkilla]

The above was a recent PM I received from White Widow, a MODERATOR on this board.

I have quite a few things to say here, but I am truly disgusted by the fact that a moderator feels it appropriate to speak to board members this way.  I have never been anything but respectful to mods and members of this board.  I have offered my honest opinions that come from first hand experience.  I am not "pimping" product out for anyone.  I am not responsible for any other individuals lost money, who they order from, or what products they choose to take (if any).

I will go on record here and formally apologize for mentioning the name of a source which we can all agree is a no-no, but the Kigtropin thing is obviously a hot button issue and I feel as an upstanding member of this board to report on MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with the products that I use.  I'm not endorsing anyone and I have made very clear that people need to take accountability for their own actions.  You mention the board that Kami sources on?  I couldn't even tell you what that board is.  I'll put myself on complete blast here: I am a member of GetBig and Anabolic Board.  I have logged onto AB about 5-10 times total and I did solely so I could communicate with DL (a source over there who once I got in touch with via email, I never went back on and limited my communication to that).  I am a proud active member of GETBIG.  IMO, the BEST bodybuilding forum on the internet.  I post honestly.  I respond respectfully to PM's from other members and mods (including you WhiteWidow or are you so quick to forget our several honest exchanges about my experiences with Euroman!), which I have gotten several of.  Actually, I am going to request any member of this board to come forward now and tell me if I have ever disrespected them or ignored a PM or not offered my honest opinion on a thread when asked for it!

Pimping product?  Excuse me.  I dont need to.  I work full time and make enough money to buy gh from Kami or any other supplier that I choose!  I have never pushed 1 supplier on this board!  I have often referred to my useage with the strange guy, the name who shouldn't be mentioned, euro, dl, and others (I apologize again for mentioning sources, but for WW to come at me this way is a joke!!).  Actually, I work in the supplement industry and my company sells product to Ron Avidan who owns DNA.  As I sit at my work computer now, oh look... here's Ron's phone #: xx8-x4x-x5xx.  I met him last year in person.  I am heavily debating calling him to discuss how his Mods feel it is appropriate to speak this way to members and make assumptions about people they in no way personally know anything about.

Here would be an example of an appropriate PM to a member from a Mod:

BiGHer:

While we appreciate you being an active member of this board, please understand that this is not an open source board and we feel it inappropriate to mention sources names.  Please take this as a warning, but next time we will have to place your account on time out.

Respectfully,
WhiteWidow
Getbig Moderator - Steroids Info and Hardcore


Let me be clear: I felt that the Kigtropin issue was a hot button and seeing as I think people respect my opinion on this board, I thought it only be right that I report my honest assessment of a product that I used.  I said that Kami had quality gh because he sent me gh and it was good.  He also provided me with the information of serum tests he conducted and pointed me in the direction of other boards that were having members conduct serum tests if I wanted to look at their results.  I tried the kits he sent me and they were GREAT.  I figured I would at least inform the members of GetBig.  I thought I made it very clear to the members that they should make a decision about who they buy from carefully and NOT BUY from Kami if they didn't feel comfortable doing so.  I also lost money on thos kigs.  I also got sent Taitropin.  I will also now choose to get gh from Kami as long as the quality stays consistant.  I am entitled to my own choise to do so and if I were to lose money then that's my loss and not a concern for anyone else.

I communicate via email with Kami and I have made very clear to him that I think consistancy is extremely important and that all bodybuilders get the same high quality product that I recently received.  Email Kami yourself and ask him.  I've pulled no punches in my conversations with him and he respects that!

So let me be clear to everyone... buy from Kami or don't buy from Kami.  I care that all bodybuilders get quality product and consistantly.  Where you choose to buy it from is on you!! Not me!!  

I am stepping away from GetBig for a while.  Members, feel free to PM me as I greatly care about this board, but I will no longer share my personal experiences or reports on products or posting of progress photos or provide my honest opinions on pretty much anything on an open thread until WW apologizes for addressing me the way he did.  It's inappropriate and not right for a mod to address a member this way and make accusations against someone he doesn't know.  This is why I also tried to become a Mod on the steroid section.  I value this place and it's members.

BTW:

I PMed Ron about a Mod position a few months back and this is what he told me was important of being a mod:

FAIR AND IMPARTIAL!  Members, if I'm being crazy, please let me know, but you tell me if you think this moderator addressed me fair and impartially!


I have made it a point and take pride in the fact that I tend to avoid all the BS and drama that takes place in this little internet board world, but I will not be accused of things that aren't true or be told to "go pimp these kigs" elsewhere.  I don't make accusations about any other members on this board and I treat people here with respect... yeah, I joke around and poke fun like we all do from time to time here on the thunderdome, but in the end, I'm not going to be talked down to like some child by a board mod who feels he can make assumptions about me and make me out to have alterior motives.


Sincerely,

BiGHer

PS. When I do come back and resume posting, I will not mention another source.  I will mention products and if I'm taking Kigtropin then I'm gonna tell you all that I'm taking Kigtropin whether you like it or not!!!

i really dont get this post,,,no offense i have nothing against you but maybe all the gear your on is messing with your head?  sometimes i get dramatic over tiny things and they get under my skin and i turn them into big issues.  i dont think ww or anyone has the time to edit and put alot of thought into PM, it just sounds to me like he is telling you to stop mentioning sources name and also stating the fact that that particular source has sold on a ton of bunk gh, and owes alot of people.

so he put out a few good kits, does that make up for selling a ton of bunk shit, having horrible communication, leaving people hanging, and still owing people? 

IMO ww is a very good guy who has alot of knowledge of the past and present market for AAS and what UG labs used to be good and what ones are currentnly good, and current ones that are overrated (like half the 'top chefs" named on this board).  LMAO, some of these 'top chefs' sell crap products, they might have one good hormone (say test prop), but their masteron is garbage.  There really are no top chefs, ive tried all the "top" ones, and i this isn't 2004 anymore, the powders coming from china in my opinion are more and more shitty, they are getting cut or something, everything now days is worse than shit was years ago, except for 1 guys EQ,,,the fucking market for drol is either take your risk buying humangrade, where chances are it is counterfit, or buy from a top chef, where you gotta take 300mg just to get an effect.

Just saying WW is a down the middle guy who i dont see sucking off various sources like some guys do and proclaiming them gods,,,gear these days is not good and very high dosaes need to be used for any affect.

I also think your overreacting, not trying to bash you, i just think your making a mountain of a mole hill and WW is a down to earth guy who unlike mods on some baords doesn't think he is too good for everyone,,,hes a mod but he's like one of us.

[lilhawk1]

Now there are guys on PM claiming to have high serum #'s of these new Kigs.  Wonder how much free shit they are getting?  Once a scammer always a scammer.  He might send them decent shit to get serum tested on, but everyone else gets pure shit in the meantime.

[Arnold jr]

It's not just the manner I was approached in here, it's accusations being made toward me with no grounds.  WW and I have discussed through PM's sources in the past... he could have hit me up and asked my reasoning for mentioning a source instead of accusing me of "pimping product."

I apologized in my OP for mentioning a sources name, I acknowledged that it's a "no-no."  That's why I was also clear in saying that I won't be discussing certain things anymore. 

You mean like GH15 and the oompa loompa's (elfs) have been doing to WW for over a year now? You mean like the way they've handled their responses about me? Pot, kettle, meet ironic.

Why is WW immune to criticism? Who's agenda is he carrying out that lets him do such a terrible job as mod?

This is why Getbig is dying. Most mods are inactive and many who are left are SKETCHY as hell. And this is why gh15s board will be the pinnacle, because people like BiGher will be mods. People who care about the sport and contribute in huge ways.

Actually, WW was made a mod here for a very specific reason, one BiGHer is well aware of and one WW has done well. He wasn't picked randomly. And sure, you can criticize him all day long, me too if you want...as long as you don't break the very few basic rules of the board you can say and do whatever you want.

BTW, if GH15's site passes this one in numbers I'll be surprised. You have to remember, he's speaking to a small population of people inside an already small population of people. If it even passes my old probodybuilding.com site that hasn't been updated in over two years I'll be shocked..

[BiGHer]

C'mon you mentioned the source in your title! posting sources names is a not right and you mentioned ike 3 times Kami had new kigs! why would you do that? you obviously have a agenda. Kami owes this board thousands of dollars! He is a shitty soource who scammed alot of people! Even GH15 called him a scammer and not to order from him! if you just took a picture and didn't mention any sources or mention Kami had new pharm grade kits that would of been fine! or you could of PM'ed people. I approached this like I did because you knew what you did was wrong! don't act like you didn't! Dont act like you are not getting anything for free or a offer from kami to get something for free for posting that.

I stand by everything I've said in this thread and that includes my apology for mentioning the source.  Why are you getting so uptight man?  We both know that people wanted every bit of information they can get from this recent kigs issue and I was just sharing my experiences with it.  Of course I knew before hand that mentioning sources is wrong, you can find me on other threads telling people to chill out mentioning source names, but I figured given the magnitude of the situation, that it would be important for members to know.  Also, read through the threads... Nick names are made up every other day because people mention sources left and right.  Come on man, give me a break - you knew you could have handled this differently.  Also, I'm being clear that I'll keep my distance from source and product related discussions.


Also, Arnold Jr, when have you seen me bash WW in the past?  Why are you making me out to be accountable for what other people have said to WW?





 

[gh15]

bigher is the BEST member on this boarding ,, he is and im serious about it ,, he is the definition of a saint,, im not kiding by the way ,, this fella is so truthful and so good from within that it shines through,, he will get very VERY far in life,, in bodybuild too but im talking LIFE,, you fellas should read a paragraph of what he write and get in your head that you have here a phenomenon ,,

i thikn he deserve an appology ,, not only that! but he is not pimping anything ,, IT IS ME WHO WIL BRING THE KIGTROPIN BACK IF! PROVEN TO ME! THAT IT HAS CONSISTANCY AND ITS PHARMA GRADE,, then! i will put my name behind it and take full and sole responsibility ,, i didnt approve them yet and neevr before done such a thing as burning an operation and then bring it back...i need to see consistancy with THIS! level of product for he is using GREAT GREAT product rigght now ,, it just need to be for EVERYONE

in any case...coupel more weeks and a gh15 in yout face sites are coming,, will have no more problem ongetbig with this kind of things,, getbig can go back to the old way then

gh15 approved

[gh15]

You mean like GH15 and the oompa loompa's (elfs) have been doing to WW for over a year now? You mean like the way they've handled their responses about me? Pot, kettle, meet ironic.

Actually, WW was made a mod here for a very specific reason, one BiGHer is well aware of and one WW has done well. He wasn't picked randomly. And sure, you can criticize him all day long, me too if you want...as long as you don't break the very few basic rules of the board you can say and do whatever you want.

BTW, if GH15's site passes this one in numbers I'll be surprised. You have to remember, he's speaking to a small population of people inside an already small population of people. If it even passes my old probodybuilding.com site that hasn't been updated in over two years I'll be shocked..

i already passes getbig,, right now already over 1000 applications with out any site ,, the gh15 sites is not somethign you should cpmpare anything to ,, it will be the bigest thing in internet bodybuild history ...not due to technology but due to who writes there...aka  M E

im just too big,, i got to a level of invinsibility that its pretty much sitting with the morning cofee looking for gh15 postings...and 1000s do it every day for many years
gh15 approved

[gh15]

You mean like GH15 and the oompa loompa's (elfs) have been doing to WW for over a year now? You mean like the way they've handled their responses about me? Pot, kettle, meet ironic.

Actually, WW was made a mod here for a very specific reason, one BiGHer is well aware of and one WW has done well. He wasn't picked randomly. And sure, you can criticize him all day long, me too if you want...as long as you don't break the very few basic rules of the board you can say and do whatever you want.

BTW, if GH15's site passes this one in numbers I'll be surprised. You have to remember, he's speaking to a small population of people inside an already small population of people. If it even passes my old probodybuilding.com site that hasn't been updated in over two years I'll be shocked..

remember how you delted the posting of you talking about what happened to you in past...delete this posting of you too...it wil show very bad on you in future,, its warm recomendation ,, if you checked into the gh15 site...and looked in the hysteria around it ....you would understand that gh15 sites is not only for bodybuilders persay

gh15 approved

[qbkilla]

Now there are guys on PM claiming to have high serum #'s of these new Kigs.  Wonder how much free shit they are getting?  Once a scammer always a scammer.  He might send them decent shit to get serum tested on, but everyone else gets pure shit in the meantime.

if guys there are saying they have high serum levels, you know its a scam.  ergopep, LMAO.  what was the one they were pimping before that, the one with the dinosuar logo that was selling poison, but on that board it was the best shit around, better than roids, haha

[Arnold jr]

Also, Arnold Jr, when have you seen me bash WW in the past?  Why are you making me out to be accountable for what other people have said to WW?

I'm not, I'm just stating the somewhat ironic nature of the whole thing...that's all.