Pedro Coderch wrote:
September 24, 2009 at 5:03 am
@Mark Walsh
I think that not even you believe what you just said. So the only reason why all the gay men I know are effeminate is because only the effeminates are visible? Oh, really? I must have heard this argument a billion times. I guess the gay men can’t tell those masculine gay men either, because the most common complain I heard in gay message boards is that there aren’t many masculine gay men around. Maybe you should go there and tell all those gay men where the macho gays are, because they would love to know that. Maybe they are meeting the same men you are talking about, except they don’t think they are as masculine as you think they are. And please don’t use the homophobia card with me.
Get real. I am not even what you could call a straight guy, so trying to use the political correct card with me does not work. I actullay had a boyfriend when a teenager, ok? We held hands, French kissed and all those kindfs of things. We didn’t sodomize each other because we found it disrespectful. But we dis everything else. I just don’t think I have nothing in common with gay men. As a little boy, I fished and hunted and had no interest in dressing up in my mother’s clothes like so many boys that grow up to be gay have. I never desired to be a fairy princess or a little mermaid. As a adolescent boy, I was a varsity wrestler in shcool halfback of the football team and yes, even though I was voted the most beautiful boy in school and that is an effeminate title, I never actually pursued it; people just gave it to my person. I never wanted to be cheerleader or a dancer or nothing which girls pursue. As a young men, I did MMA fighting to prove myself and I sustained several exposed fractures. I once went to a gaylub and I found out I had nothin gin common with those guys. The guys were dressed in pink dancing to Donna Summer tunes and flamming like there was no tomorrow. I had nothing to talk about with them. They were talking about how so and so actress looked fabulous in the last Academy Award appearance and how fierce Madonna is and other stuff like that. Most of those guys were exactly like girls but with a dick. And while I do not mind guys being feminine, I must admit I don’t have the patience to deal with grown up men that behave like adolescent girls.http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=131176.msg1858974#msg1858974EXHIBIT A
I saw that coming. You can't have a serious discsussion on any topic without the supposedly straight guys who are obsessed with homosexuality going hysterical. Let me guess...but a girl who loves both things can still be straight, right? Hypocrite.
Your assertion does not fly on the face of empirical evidence. By definition, sexual orientation is defined as what causes, in males, erections and in females, tumecence of the vaginal walls. We cannot possibly define what complete orientation is, because that involves emotionality and cannot be evaluated.
Going by the definition of sexual orientation, a guy who is married and has children cannot possibly be gay - unless his wife got pregnant by artificial insemination. How can a man be gay if he gets sexually aroused by women? Gay men find women repulsive. Tell to a gay guy that some guy who likes guys but also likes fucking chicks is gay, and he'll laugh in your face.
And finally, it is exactly because I'm secure that I can point that out. Would you call Julius Caesar gay because he had sex with guys? Ha ha ha ha ha ha...he'd have your ass nailed to a cross faster than you could come up with some contrived apology. Would you do that to those two examplaries of murderous masculinity, Alexander the Great and Richard the Lionhearted?
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Exhibit Bhttp://www.marksimpson.com/blog/2010/01/07/the-metrosexual-noughties/Pedro Coderch wrote:
January 13, 2010 at 7:46 am
@Mark Walsh
Quosque tandem abutere, Mark Walsh, patientia mea?
Frankly, I am not going to waste any more time arguing with you. Saying that gay men are, on average, as masculine as straight men is not an argument; it is retarded. It is like trying to argue that 2 + 2 = 5. It goes against logic, reason and common sense. Funny that gay men themselves don’t seem to agree with you, given that a lack of masculine gay men is the most common complain from queens from what I can infer from gay message boards. We must apply Occam’s Razor here: the reason why gay men act effeminate and have effeminate interests is because they are effeminate. You don’t believe the garbage you’re saying yourself. My personal guess is that if you’re trying to convince yourself that a lie is true by repeating the lie to yourself ad nauseum, but that’s self-delusion.
As for
Alexander and Richard Lionhearted and other pederasts, there are two fundamental differences between the pederast from classical antiquity and the modern gay man:
1. Pederasts were attracted exclusively to skinny and hairless teenage boys, whilst gay men are attracted to masculine-looking men.
2. Pederasts had sex with women too, and in many cases prefered women over boys, unlike gay men who are exclusively homosexual.
Pedro Coderch wrote:
January 11, 2010 at 8:21 am
Yeah, but
Alexander the Great, Richard Lionhearted etc prefered hairless teenage boys over manly men and they took the active role with them. Go tell Richard the Lionhearted that he enjoyed being sodomized and you’d see what he would do to you. Liberace or Boy George he was not.Cut the CRAP, Mark Walsh: most gay men are effeminate. I can see it, the 90 year-old lady next door can see it, everyone with two eyes and a working brain can see it. Who are you trying to fool? Even you don’t believe it. Most gay men are butch? Oh, really? Then why is it the most common complain of gay men that there are so few butch gay men around? Just go to gay message boards and you’ll see it. Serioulsy, you insult my intelligence by claiming that most gay men are butch. You must take me for a complete fucking chump.