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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/stand-ground-legal-defenses-worked-florida-cases-where-183345434.html

Stand your ground’ legal defenses worked in Florida even when victims were shot in back, investigation finds

The Tampa Bay Times combed through more than 200 "stand your ground" self-defense cases in Florida to find that the new defense has worked even in cases where the suspect shot his or her victim in the back.

[Related: Zimmerman surrenders]

Florida's "stand your ground" law was passed in 2005. It goes beyond most states' self-defense statutes because it says that people in public places do not have a duty to attempt to retreat, if possible, before using deadly force if they feel threatened. In the high-profile shooting case of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman must prove only that he had a right to be where he was when he shot Martin and that he had a reasonable belief that he could suffer great harm or die by Martin's hand. (Zimmerman alleges that Martin beat him up after Zimmerman got out of his car to follow him. He's charged with second-degree murder.)

In 200 Florida cases where the "stand your ground" defense was invoked, 70 percent of defendants were let go, according to the Tampa Bay Times. These included cases where the defendant had shot someone in the back, or while the victim was lying down.

In a third of "stand your ground" defenses, the defendant started the fight that ended in the shooting and still went free. Read the whole investigation at the Tampa Bay Times site.

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"He's running away..."

Two blocks later, ZImmerman caught him.

He says he was jumped, but he lied to a judge too - we already know he's a fcking liar.

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/stand-ground-legal-defenses-worked-florida-cases-where-183345434.html

Stand your ground’ legal defenses worked in Florida even when victims were shot in back, investigation finds

The Tampa Bay Times combed through more than 200 "stand your ground" self-defense cases in Florida to find that the new defense has worked even in cases where the suspect shot his or her victim in the back.

[Related: Zimmerman surrenders]

Florida's "stand your ground" law was passed in 2005. It goes beyond most states' self-defense statutes because it says that people in public places do not have a duty to attempt to retreat, if possible, before using deadly force if they feel threatened. In the high-profile shooting case of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman must prove only that he had a right to be where he was when he shot Martin and that he had a reasonable belief that he could suffer great harm or die by Martin's hand. (Zimmerman alleges that Martin beat him up after Zimmerman got out of his car to follow him. He's charged with second-degree murder.)

In 200 Florida cases where the "stand your ground" defense was invoked, 70 percent of defendants were let go, according to the Tampa Bay Times. These included cases where the defendant had shot someone in the back, or while the victim was lying down.

In a third of "stand your ground" defenses, the defendant started the fight that ended in the shooting and still went free. Read the whole investigation at the Tampa Bay Times site.

Wow.  Pretty broad.  That's really going to help Zimmerman. 

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Wow.  Pretty broad.  That's really going to help Zimmerman. 

zimm's a real hero.

trayvon hadn't committed any crime, but he might have littered that iced tea bottle.

Zimm did the smart thing, getting out of the truck, chasing him down, engaging in a fistfight and shooting the kid.


Lying to the police about so many things - he just did that to irritate the lamestream media.  A brilliant tactic, IMHO.

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A law like that may encourage carrying a gun and using it

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A law like that may encourage carrying a gun and using it

In order to win in court, you have to be a CREDIBLE witness in your own shooting.

ZImmerman is not.  The shaky call, the contradictions in the interview we've already heard, lying to a judge and hiding 135k and a passport...

Zimm is a liar.  The lead detective wanted to charge him with murder that night - politics won it over, for the time being.

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A law like that may encourage carrying a gun and using it

And deter violent criminals who will have to wonder whether their victim is packing. 

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zimm's a real hero.

trayvon hadn't committed any crime, but he might have littered that iced tea bottle.

Zimm did the smart thing, getting out of the truck, chasing him down, engaging in a fistfight and shooting the kid.


Lying to the police about so many things - he just did that to irritate the lamestream media.  A brilliant tactic, IMHO.

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This FL law needs to be applied more liberally and across all 50 states!