Romney: We Don’t Need ‘More FIREMEN, More POLICEMEN, More TEACHERS’

[blacken700]

[Soul Crusher]

He is 100000000000000% correct.   I am liking him more every day with statements like this. 

The fact of the matter is that the private sector is not producing or growing enough to pay for public sector workers and their ridiculous pay and benefits packages.   

[240 is Back]

1) he is correct

2) saying things like this will cost him votes and peel away at his numbers.

If your dad is a cop, how do you vote?  If your uncle died firefighting, how do you vote?  If you are a teacher, this solidifies your obama vote.

he's correct, but saying things like this (to suck up to the repub base) dont play well with hard working middle class moderates.  tough spot. 

[Soul Crusher]

1) he is correct

2) saying things like this will cost him votes and peel away at his numbers.

If your dad is a cop, how do you vote?  If your uncle died firefighting, how do you vote?  If you are a teacher, this solidifies your obama vote.

he's correct, but saying things like this (to suck up to the repub base) dont play well with hard working middle class moderates.  tough spot. 

What die hard incompetent communists like blacken and obama dont grasp is that states and localities are forced to balance their books and can't use the Fed and other scams to finance spending.  They are forced to finance spending based upon tax receipts. 

The fact is that tax receipts are not growing to keep paying for more govt workers. 

[240 is Back]

What die hard incompetent communists like blacken and obama dont grasp is that states and localities are forced to balance their books and can't use the Fed and other scams to finance spending.  They are forced to finance spending based upon tax receipts. 

The fact is that tax receipts are not growing to keep paying for more govt workers. 

romney is correct.  and if a billionaire hadnt bought SC for newt, the race would have ended 2 months earlier, and he wouldn't have had to take such extreme positions so late in the game.

SuperPACs may be blamed, if Mitt loses in 2012.  They allows 3 or 4 people to extend a race by months, and really cause mitt to lose money making time, and alienate voters.  Santorum would have been history 5 minutes after Iowa, Newt no chance... mitt would have been campaigning against obama since march.

Now we're in June and he's just getting started, with the convention only 7 weeks away?  Yikes.

SuperPacs are the problem... Mitt has to be TOO honest and admit he'll be chopping up police, firefighters, teachers - something neither mccain or obama was dumb enough to do in 2008.  But he had the whole walker/christie movement, you know, it's cool to shout down people and talk about beating down anyone who demands a salary, etc.

Well, this is the system they wanted - they got it now.

[blacken700]

What die hard incompetent communists like blacken and obama dont grasp is that states and localities are forced to balance their books and can't use the Fed and other scams to finance spending.  They are forced to finance spending based upon tax receipts. 

The fact is that tax receipts are not growing to keep paying for more govt workers. 

some of us in the u.s. live in nice neighborhoods and like to have enough police and fireman,not all of us live in crime ridden ghettos where it makes no difference

[tonymctones]

some of us in the u.s. live in nice neighborhoods and like to have enough police and fireman,not all of us live in crime ridden ghettos where it makes no difference

the majority of us are also employed by the private sector and know that the private sector isnt doing fine.

We also know that the answer to a better economy doesnt lie in more govt spending and govt workers.

you think more govt workers is going to get us out of this shit?

[blacken700]

i agree but some workers you can't skimp on, fireman and police being two of them

[tonymctones]

i agree but some workers you can't skimp on, fireman and police being two of them

I can agree with that as long as there arent excessive numbers, not skimping on them is not going to help the economy get out of the funk its in though.

and for anyone to say that the private sector is fine and the answer to getting the economy back on track is hiring govt workers is retarded

[240 is Back]

Romney will have to stand on national TV and tell the cameras two things:

1) We don't need more cops, firefighters, ,firefighters.

and

2) We do need to give larger tax cuts to people making over $1mil per year.

Now, if you're a new florida teacher, in the midst of a hiring freeze, how do you support this?

[Soul Crusher]

Romney will have to stand on national TV and tell the cameras two things:

1) We don't need more cops, firefighters, ,firefighters.

and

2) We do need to give larger tax cuts to people making over $1mil per year.

Now, if you're a new florida teacher, in the midst of a hiring freeze, how do you support this?

you don't because you are probably liberal demo anyway.   

[240 is Back]

you don't because you are probably liberal demo anyway.   

is it about me?  Or the florida swing voters?

he has a shitload of really far-right positions to defend.  Thanks to superPACs.  it's undeniable.

[blacken700]

romneys vision of fire departments if he's elected

[Soul Crusher]

Most areas are volunteer fire houses.     Why can't you communist leftists understand we are broke?

[tonymctones]

Romney will have to stand on national TV and tell the cameras two things:

1) We don't need more cops, firefighters, ,firefighters.

and

2) We do need to give larger tax cuts to people making over $1mil per year.

Now, if you're a new florida teacher, in the midst of a hiring freeze, how do you support this?

yup and obama will have to stand there and tell the ppl.

that the private sector is doing just fine and the key to getting the economy going again is more govt workers with unfunded pensions and more govt spending on social programs.

[Roger Bacon]

Couldn't agree more, that's good!

[Roger Bacon]

some of us in the u.s. live in nice neighborhoods and like to have enough police and fireman,not all of us live in crime ridden ghettos where it makes no difference

People in nice neighborhoods never ever use the police, fire, and amulance service that they themselves are paying out the ass for.

The police, fire and ambulance are responding to addresses within the ghetto 24/7.

[OzmO]

People in nice neighborhoods never ever use the police, fire, and amulance service that they themselves are paying out the ass for.

The police, fire and ambulance are responding to addresses within the ghetto 24/7.

Really?  how do you know this?

[Irongrip400]

some of us in the u.s. live in nice neighborhoods and like to have enough police and fireman,not all of us live in crime ridden ghettos where it makes no difference

You can say that, but what he says is true. Govt is just like a business, with taxes beIng the revenue. If you don't have revenue being higher than expense, you go in the red. People don't understand that. The morons say "print more money". That does shit if there is nothing to back it.

[Shockwave]

He's absolutley correct.
More government employees means that much more tax revenue to pay for them. Their funding comes from where - the private sector.
Public sector jobs depend on private sector funding. Its all relative. The answer is not to increase the public sector when the private sector is hurting, that's bass-ackwards logic.

[Dos Equis]

He's right.  He's not saying we don't hire public employees that we need, but we cannot keep expanding state and federal governments.  We're friggin broke.

Check out the Fred Barnes article 33 posted.  Right on point.

[240 is Back]

we're broke - BUT - people making more than $1mil per year need new tax cuts.

Sorry, but no.  They have the bush tax cuts and they're not investing in US mnfg - they're buying precious metals and building Apple plants in china.  You're telling me Apple needs more tax cuts.  go fuck a duck.

[garebear]

I think we should shut down public education. It's communism.

[tonymctones]

we're broke - BUT - people making more than $1mil per year need new tax cuts.

Sorry, but no.  They have the bush tax cuts and they're not investing in US mnfg - they're buying precious metals and building Apple plants in china.  You're telling me Apple needs more tax cuts.  go fuck a duck.

everyone needs a tax cut!!!

the govt needs to cut spending, not increase it like you and obama want to do!!!

[240 is Back]

everyone needs a tax cut!!!

the govt needs to cut spending, not increase it like you and obama want to do!!!

paul ryan's tax plan doesn't give EVERYONE a tax cut though.  He think you give a bigger break to millionaires, they'll put the $ back into the US economy.

They're not doing it now.  They're buying gold and silver and putting plants for mnfg onthe other hemisphere.  Ryan sucks up to millionaire donors, that's what this is.  Romney HAD to endorse the plan, even though he ran from that first version of it.  Santorum farced his hand - now he has to stay with it.  Give $1mil earners a tax break but not everyone else.  Good luck selling that.  SuperPAC fault.