Gentlemen, I did a girl wrong and I'm not proud.

[Agnostic007]

The never contact them again route doesn't always end well. When I was single I dated a few women and with the exception of one very psycho hot chick, remained friends to some degree with them all. The key is being up front with them. The break up should not be simply refusing to respond. That will cause them to buy a stolen handgun and a wig and large sunglasses.

Your friend doesn't know how to date. I have a female friend with the same issue. 2 days after meeting some guy she is talking about how her family will like him, or if his last name and her first name sound good together. Ultimately she drives them away because she skips the dating part and goes right into the relationship part. She can't help it, I've counseled her on it many times, but it's ingrained in her. Sounds like your woman.  

[Wiggs]

Having a relationship with a mom with you still being without a child will result in an unbalanced relationship for the get-go. The kid will always be her priority while you'll be looking for the relationship to prime before moving to something bigger. I don't advise it.

Ah, got it.  You are correct.  You have to go in knowing you are not the priority.  I can accept that but yes, it makes things awkward.  Well the pussy was good but not that good.  First time I've raw dogged it since December 2005. I remember pussy feeling alot better...oh well.

[quadzilla456]

Please expand...why is it different with moms?
I'd like a serious relationship, settle down have some kids etc..I'm a straight, black man, 33 (next week), good looking smart, educated etc...where I'm from that's called hitting the lottery.

This...

(except for the black man bit - unless you can control your flesh eating Zombie urges and stay away from the bath salts)

[Wiggs]

This...

(except for the black man bit - unless you can control your flesh eating Zombie urges and stay away from the bath salts)

From you, this is the closest I'll ever get to a compliment, so thanks. haha

[DroppingPlates]

Please expand...why is it different with moms?
I'd like a serious relationship, settle down have some kids etc..I'm a straight, black man, 33 (next week), good looking smart, educated etc...where I'm from that's called hitting the lottery.

For several reasons. I will not mention my own -since I don't want kids myself-, but in general, being a (future) step dad can be very complicated (you're not his/her dad so, who are you to raise that kid?), you will prob see her ex hubby every now and then (not a pleasant feeling) plus it's hard to experience freedom with someone with the responsible task as a parent.
At least, take your time bro and think about the consequences, the positives, but also the negatives.

[DroppingPlates]

Having a relationship with a mom with you still being without a child will result in an unbalanced relationship for the get-go. The kid will always be her priority while you'll be looking for the relationship to prime before moving to something bigger. I don't advise it.

Dang good point, I forgot this one

[Wiggs]

For what it's worth, and I don't know you Wiggs, but that's a piece of shit move in my book.

The lady has a kid, and you knew that. Instead of keeping your distance and just seeing mom on the side, you became involved in that kid's life. That kid needs a positive fatherly figure in its life. You just reinforced that men are pieces of shit and run away. Nice job.

A lady with a kid brings baggage and responsibilities and you didn't handle it right.

If you can't handle being a father figure to a kid, and insist on dating ladies with kids, just keep it outside the home where the kid never has to see you.

She's a grown woman, and you're a grown man - you guys can handle breaking each others hearts. You can't make it right for a kid though. You're just another douche as far as he's concerned.

Don't take this as guilting you into the relationship. It's better that you're not there if you don't like the lady - neither of you should waste time if it doesn't work. Life's too short.

But her kid deserved better. Shame on the mom too, for being so flippant with her kid.

Ohh, and meltdown on my part.

You're right bro... She's not the first mom I've dated.  I've tried to keep the kid out because it's not good having men in and out of their life.  And everything we did, the kid had to be there too.  I didn't agree with it but I accepted it.  She should change her ways and in the future, I'll insist on having it that way.  Thanks for the good advice...oh yeah, meltdown.

[Stark]

For several reasons. I will not mention my own -since I don't want kids myself-, but in general, being a (future) step dad can be very complicated (you're not his/her dad so, who are you to raise that kid?), you will prob see her ex hubby every now and then (not a pleasant feeling) plus it's hard to experience freedom with someone with the responsible task as a parent.
At least, take your time bro and think about the consequences, the positives, but also the negatives.

Well I give you another take on that story.

One of my best friends and workout partner who is Russian (and a Jew lol) is married the third time, this time a latvian woman - great girl.
Anyways, she has a daughter 19 years old and let me tell you OMFG the girl is crazy hot - I am going off topic here but damn first time I saw here I was like - shit I cannot look at her this is his step daughter lol now we laugh about it and make jokes.

But back to the story, I see Yury so many times with his step daughter and she embraces him totally as her friend/father - I mean the whole thing like snuggling up to him teasing etc. and yes okay his stepdaughter is a bit different I mean how many hot 19 year olds with smoking bodies do you know that have one dream but to visit Chernobyl and go urgan exploring.
But it can work.

[Option D]

You're black. You better take as many 5's and 6's as you can get no matter how fat they are.

lol... im black and i know ive banged more quality broards (of every race) than you could even dream of...

[Voice of Doom]

Unless you're marrying her never raw-dog a latina.  They are the most fertile bitches on the planet and usually Catholic.

[Wiggs]

Unless you're marrying her never raw-dog a latina.  They are the most fertile bitches on the planet and usually Catholic.

My dumbass knew this going in and yet still did it anyway...funny how nature works...My brain turned off and the next thing I knew, I was leaving her house the next morning wondering what happened.

And yes, she's Catholic too...

[Shockwave]

You're right bro... She's not the first mom I've dated.  I've tried to keep the kid out because it's not good having men in and out of their life.  And everything we did, the kid had to be there too.  I didn't agree with it but I accepted it.  She should change her ways and in the future, I'll insist on having it that way.  Thanks for the good advice...oh yeah, meltdown.

Bro, you wouldnt have even had to raw dog her. Those bitches get pregnant walking by you in the supermarket. So it really doesnt matter either way. 

[Option D]

Wiggs my brother...

Just have fun.. dont  "go in wanting long term". And its for that reason alone. As sun as you bang her once, all of the future hopes, understanding, caring etc.. that shit goes right out the window.

[Shockwave]

Wiggs my brother...

Just have fun.. dont  "go in wanting long term". And its for that reason alone. As sun as you bang her once, all of the future hopes, understanding, caring etc.. that shit goes right out the window.

x2.
Going in for the long term = fail, cause you usually wind up chasing after something thats not there. The only long term relationships Ive had that worked, were ones were I went in to it with the mindset of "Hit it and see where things go". It allows the relationship to develop normally, otherwise you may wind up trying to force the relationship into a direction that its not meant to go. And those relationships always wind up miserable.

Oh, and Latina's/Mexicans are crazy.

[Wiggs]

Wiggs my brother...

Just have fun.. dont  "go in wanting long term". And its for that reason alone. As sun as you bang her once, all of the future hopes, understanding, caring etc.. that shit goes right out the window.

This never happened to me before bro.  Is this what it's like to be black?



   j/k....It's really never happened before but I think this is how it's going to be for a while.  I went in with good intentions but once I got some it was like I awoke from a spell. I've never understood guys on this point until this happened. I agree with you, I need to modify my game or feelings will be hurt and I don't like being an asshole or hurting feelings.

[chaos]

lol... im black

Eh, you're more of a mocha.....

[Irongrip400]

Guilt aside, if you're already losing interest after hitting it a few times, this relationship is not meant to be long term.   Better for her and the kid in the long run that you get out now.  Just don't be a dick about it - man up and tell her.

This my brother. Run, most chicks wouldn't even have let you meet their kid that quick. Run.

[Option D]

Eh, you're more of a mocha.....

hahahaha... youre red... when you bench, or walk with 700+ pounds

[Shockwave]

This my brother. Run, most chicks wouldn't even have let you meet their kid that quick. Run.

Dude, she's latina. She got pregnant when Wiggs kissed her. He's already fucked.

[Hulkotron]

Pics of the bitch?

[Wiggs]

Dude, she's latina. She got pregnant when Wiggs kissed her. He's already fucked.

lol...well there is that chance but I doubt it...

[Shockwave]

lol...well there is that chance but I doubt it...

Nothing a coathanger, some stairs, and a bottle of "Dontell's Abortion Juice" cant fix.

[Raymondo]

If you're not interested anymore tell her in person, leave the sms thing for chavs and bums. Be a gentleman... unless she's a whore

[Shockwave]

If you're not interested anymore tell her in person, leave the sms thing for chavs and bums. Be a gentleman... unless she's a whore

If she's a whore, then he shouldn't be feeling any emotions, period.

[Wiggs]

She's not a whore and telling her I'm dumping her in person helps no one involved....If I do it.
It's more of she's moved much too fast than me losing interest.