You have to be plain fucking retarded to get involved with a 25 year old and a kid. At 21 she had a kid? Wow man, people who have kids that young can say all they want, but I would have lost the best years of my life traveling, living abroad, etc. Especially losing your freedom to another mans kid. Fuck that, I am bad shit scared of woman like that. You can white knight all you want, but I wouldn't give two shits. She's a still a kid with a kid, and imagine you get her pregnant, you got to support your kid and the other one. Some guys are ok with it, but that's my ideal nightmare