WTF happened to Johnnynoname.........?

[Cleanest Natural]

Hahaha good point, at least if you bring your legs up a bit you could push me uphill aswell!

[Shockwave]

Very interesting thread, thanks to all for sharing and congrats to those that kicked.

I have a friend who has had severe back pain for over a year.  They can't do surgery but she has tried shots in her back, etc.  She is on Vicodin (or something like it), Oxycontin AND Tramadol.  She has said she thinks she will have to go to rehab if her back ever gets fixed and she no longer needs the drugs (she has never been a drinker or drug user other than these drugs).  Do any of you have any advice/encouragement I can pass along?

Shockwave, I recently read The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx.  Have you read it and if so, what did you think?

I have not read it. As far as your friend goes, she'll be in for a hard time depending on her dosage and duration of use.

Contrary to what da_vinci said, it doesnt matter if your taking them to get high or for pain management - its all about dose and duration.
The symptoms wouldnt be nearly as bad as someone slamming an eightball of heroin everyday, obviously, but it can be really bad, especially with that cocktail of drugs.

Kind of weird they have her on Vicoden and Oxycontin, seems redundant to me. Tramadol (ultram) is supposed to be a non-narcotic painkiller, but its addictive as well.

[Psychopath]

I knew a kid back in high school who only dated this girl because her dad got in a really bad car accident so he could raid the old mans medicine cabinet and get his hands on really powerful drugs whenever he wanted.

My sister's so called "friends" used to hang out with her so they can get to be around my brother....ahahahahah, sluts.

[Borracho]

I have not read it. As far as your friend goes, she'll be in for a hard time depending on her dosage and duration of use.

Contrary to what da_vinci said, it doesnt matter if your taking them to get high or for pain management - its all about dose and duration.
The symptoms wouldnt be nearly as bad as someone slamming an eightball of heroin everyday, obviously, but it can be really bad, especially with that cocktail of drugs.

Kind of weird they have her on Vicoden and Oxycontin, seems redundant to me. Tramadol (ultram) is supposed to be a non-narcotic painkiller, but its addictive as well.

^
Truth.

wrt tramadol... it's weird cause I've heard people getting hooked on it but it did absolutely nothing to me.

[polychronopolous]

My sister's so called "friends" used to hang out with her so they can get to be around my brother....ahahahahah, sluts.

About the time her "friends" came over i would have told my bro to either take a hike or hide in that Bedroom closet over there and peak out while I show him how it's really supposed to be done.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

If any of you people are addicts, do yourself a favor and experiment with very strict water fasts. Work yourself up to 10 days. Then 20 days. Water fasts are a tool to use in life to clear your body of toxins. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can accomplish a 20 day water fast. Talk about mind of matter.

[ChristopherA]

If any of you people are addicts, do yourself a favor and experiment with very strict water fasts. Work yourself up to 10 days. Then 20 days. Water fasts are a tool to use in life to clear your body of toxins. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can accomplish a 20 day water fast. Talk about mind of matter.

Is that a real thing? How can you go without water that long? Wouldn't drinking lots of water flush the toxins out also?

[chaos]

If any of you people are addicts, do yourself a favor and experiment with very strict water fasts. Work yourself up to 10 days. Then 20 days. Water fasts are a tool to use in life to clear your body of toxins. I have a lot of respect for anyone who can accomplish a 20 day water fast. Talk about mind of matter.

Do you mean only water for 10 days?

[ChristopherA]

Do you mean only water for 10 days?

Ya that makes more sense than what I was thinking lol. Duh

[Mr Nobody]

Is that a real thing? How can you go without water that long? Wouldn't drinking lots of water flush the toxins out also?

You mean water only no food?

[ChristopherA]

You mean water only no food?

I guess that's what he's getting at? You can only go like a week without water, right? Snowman explain yourself.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Do you mean only water for 10 days?

Yes...Google water fasts. Most bodybuilders who THINK they're going to lose size because of not getting their protein in would never think of doing a water fast. But losing muscle is all in the mind.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I guess that's what he's getting at? You can only go like a week without water, right? Snowman explain yourself.

No you can go well over 40 days without food. Many people have done 40+ day water fasts. Woody Harrelson being one of them.  Shit over 20 day fasts start to play with the spiritual side of the mind. Trust me though, if he work yourself up to a 10 day water only fast, you will be a different person mentally. And the best part is you will always have that in your bank. What I mean is, no matter how bad things get in your life, you can always go to the water fast to reset shit.

So many people you see coming into your gym who never lifted a weight in their life or did some kind of strict diet are more or less fucked. It's so much easier if "you've done it before" . Whether it be diet/training, or in this case complete food restriction.

[Marty Champions]

ive done somewhat water fasts or really low calories, youre gonna be sleeping and sleepy quite a bit , but it could probably cause a heart attack aswell

[ChristopherA]

Yes...Google water fasts. Most bodybuilders who THINK they're going to lose size because of not getting their protein in would never think of doing a water fast. But losing muscle is all in the mind.

I will check it out, sounds interesting. I remember an old school
lifter who actually did this one week out of the year. Have you done this before?

[The Abdominal Snoman]

ive done somewhat water fasts or really low calories, youre gonna be sleeping and sleepy quite a bit , but it could probably cause a heart attack aswell

No it won't cause a heart attack. But your mind might tell yourself it will. It certainly isn't for everyone. And anxiety is something that food restriction certainly can and most likely will cause. In most people, Anxiety is a heart attack in their mind. Long water fast are hard fcking core.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I will check it out, sounds interesting. I remember an old school
lifter who actually did this one week out of the year. Have you done this before?

I've done up to 20 days(twice) Felt unbelievable but also felt I was from the planet Mars and everyone else was dirty smelly humans. The smell of meat cooking literally made me gag. The body odors off people in the gym were extremely gross for 75% of the people in my range. But holy fck the chicks who smelt good REALLY smelt good.

Anyone thinking of playing around with food restriction/water fast, please read up about it before doing so. The beginning and end of a fast are extremely important. You don't just start and stop. You have to slowly introduce things back into your diet.