Huge difference between test e and prop?

[theworm]

I know all about the differences, but do people who has used both (at separate times) really see a huge difference between test p and test e?

[whitewidow]

it is more painfull! I can notice a diffrence it does work faster. I think the strength I get is greater. I think suspension is the best due to how fast it works. I am the type who likes to feel a injection right away. I hate long acting esters. But long acting esters do have a use in the sport. especially for new users.

[Overload]

I honestly cannot tell a difference between the two even at very low bodyfat.

I think your diet is the determining factor more than the ester, but i'm sure many feel differently.

However, i do notice a good amount of bloat from Test E when i go over 1g and i've never used more than 700mg of Prop EW so maybe i'm missing something, but i cannot notice a big difference between the two other than pain and faster onset of action.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I think test is test, no matter how you look at it. Different esters just offer different release rates, and different ACTUAL HORMONE per ml ... so if you take all those into calculation, at the end of the day, its the amount of test in your body that determines the results.

Also Longer esters come in higher volumes, usually 250mg/ml, but some UGLs also offer 350mg/ml , and i know some people ping long esters EOD, so in a a week if you were using test E and pinning EOD, you could have around 1g of test in you, where as even if you pinned test prop ED, you'd have 700mg in your body ( assuming 100mg/ml). so some folks dont realize that when they use test E, they inject more into their system, and hence some notice more bloat,gyno, acne etc with test E instead of susp or prop..

again, i think test is test, different esters dont have an effect on the actual hormone, its the final amount of hormone in your body at any given time which determines the results

[bigmc]

i always feel better on prop

i tend to get test flu on long esters

[ritch]

if money is no issue, I prefer prop. Just more of a kick ass feel...

[whitewidow]

Test E is more popular due to the fact alot of people cannot handle the pain from prop. But once they started putting ethyl oleate in hormones years ago the prop got alot less painfull. Like someone else said Test is Test! But I do think Test E does bloat you a tad bit more and take longer to kick in.

[Warhorse]

Prop is for people that like to sit on needles everyday and think this will make them bigger faster...which is untrue.

Yes you feel the kick faster...but what does 24 hours get you..??

You get to the same place at the same time short or long esters when it come to test.

Warhorse

[theworm]

so many of you are saying that 150mg of test prop EOD x 8 weeks is BASICALLY the same as taking roughly one shot of say 500mg test E x 8 weeks?

if so, I rather do the less injections.  I was under the understanding that prop got you harder faster, and more ripped (less bloat) than test E...

[theworm]

Also, think 8 weeks of prop would shut u down less than the long esters?  Ie make pct and recovery better and thus have more keepable gains?

[ritch]

Also, think 8 weeks of prop would shut u down less than the long esters?  Ie make pct and recovery better and thus have more keepable gains?

shut down less? But if you plan on staying off for 3 months, you're gonna lose most of the gains anyway. It allows you to go back on faster for sure.

[whitewidow]

My conclusion is Test is Test! although each has there own advantage. I think alot of Bodybuilders going into a contest are usually on Test Prop. You wont find to many Bodybuilders going into a contest on Test suspension. Although sometimes it is individual based as I have known guys who go into contests on Test E and dbol. Like I said I tend to think Test suspension and prop are the best for me due nto the quick onset. I love suspension pre-workout. I don't get to much bloat from suspension it is literally a pain in the ass shooting suspension everyday or prop everyday.

 I believe the best way to use sustanon is everyday as well! although some may argue it is a EOD drug. sust seems to work best injected everyday. If you can find some high grade cypionate that is the way to go as well. Test is Test! watsons Test depot is great Test ! Your Test levels shoot up like crazy! I have seen them go up higher then any other test. Just a few shots brought a friend of mines Test levels from 75ng to close to 600NG just off of 2 shots. I tried the watson Test depot  but this was before my friend tried it and I didn't get bloodwork done but I could def feel it was superior to any Test I used previously.

[ritch]

both will shut you down very much the same.

and yes the gains will be the same.

with the test e youll be able to keep the gains a bit longer after last injection, when coming off prop youll carsh sooner.

keepable gains, dont expect too much,lol

yup, it really comes down to a "pick your poison" once again...

[4thAD]

Keep in mind that with prop u will actually be getting more hormone mg for mg, because of the ester weight. This can be significant depending on how much gear one is using. With test e you are onlynreally getting 70 mg of hormone per 100mg dosed. With prop you are getting approximately 80mg of hormone per 100mg dosed. So if your using a gram of prop vs a gram of enanthate, you will actually be getting 100mg more hormone out of the prop, which is a significant amount of hormone.

[OTHstrong]

It's this simple, test e =more water, test prop= less water. This should be the only factor to consider in making your decision

If you don't care about water and the only reason you have is to have as much test as possible then never go with prop; double the injections, triple the pain, doesn't make sense.

[4thAD]

Stick to cyp or enanthate, and you cant go wrong. For the more experienced guys,well we all know what we like to use.

[Marlo Stanfield]

It's this simple, test e =more water, test prop= less water. This should be the only factor to consider in making your decision

If you don't care about water and the only reason you have is to have as much test as possible then never go with prop; double the injections, triple the pain, doesn't make sense.

i still think test is test. 500mg of test = 500 mg of test.

the confusion(for lack of better terms) comes into play in several ways IMO:

1) ester weight: true that 500mg test E does NOT equal 500mg of test prop... im too lazy to do the math, but if you calculate the ester weight and do the calculations, then i think roughly 600mg test e will then equal 500 test prop

2) mg per ml: i know friends who do prop EOD and friends who do test E EOD... thhey both do 1ml.. the guy doing test E swears that test E bloats him up more, but he doesnt realize that 3ml of test is is roughly 750mg of test, where as 3ml of test prop is 300mg of test


i think at the end, test is test when you take into account al the factors

[OTHstrong]

i still think test is test. 500mg of test = 500 mg of test.

the confusion(for lack of better terms) comes into play in several ways IMO:

1) ester weight: true that 500mg test E does NOT equal 500mg of test prop... im too lazy to do the math, but if you calculate the ester weight and do the calculations, then i think roughly 600mg test e will then equal 500 test prop

2) mg per ml: i know friends who do prop EOD and friends who do test E EOD... thhey both do 1ml.. the guy doing test E swears that test E bloats him up more, but he doesnt realize that 3ml of test is is roughly 750mg of test, where as 3ml of test prop is 300mg of test


i think at the end, test is test when you take into account al the factors

Are you suggesting the bloat comes from having more test in you? cause that is not the case at all, if you take 7 injections of prop( 700mg) per week vs only 2 injection of test e(500mg) per week, the test e will bloat you more, 1000% sure, prop keeps you drier. If that's not what you meant my apologies. 

[delta9mda]

My conclusion is Test is Test! although each has there own advantage. I think alot of Bodybuilders going into a contest are usually on Test Prop. You wont find to many Bodybuilders going into a contest on Test suspension. Although sometimes it is individual based as I have known guys who go into contests on Test E and dbol. Like I said I tend to think Test suspension and prop are the best for me due nto the quick onset. I love suspension pre-workout. I don't get to much bloat from suspension it is literally a pain in the ass shooting suspension everyday or prop everyday.

 I believe the best way to use sustanon is everyday as well! although some may argue it is a EOD drug. sust seems to work best injected everyday. If you can find some high grade cypionate that is the way to go as well. Test is Test! watsons Test depot is great Test ! Your Test levels shoot up like crazy! I have seen them go up higher then any other test. Just a few shots brought a friend of mines Test levels from 75ng to close to 600NG just off of 2 shots. I tried the watson Test depot  but this was before my friend tried it and I didn't get bloodwork done but I could def feel it was superior to any Test I used previously.

i get my watson from target, lol

[whitewidow]

i get my watson from target, lol

Lucky Bastard? do they always have it in stock? or do you have to have them order it sometimes? is it usually watson 200mg per ml? 10ml or 5ml?

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

i like prop better than E IMHO....hits faster and can feel it within a couple days