Author Topic: Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own" - lmfao!!  (Read 44961 times)

whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
No they don't, it just appears that way. Give a so called tax break then get your money x10, via the back door.

How does tax breaks for the middle-class for the middle-class not benefit the middle-class?

How does tax breaks for millionaires not affect millionaires?

Kazan

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6799
  • Sic vis pacem, parabellum
How does tax breaks for the middle-class for the middle-class not benefit the middle-class?

How does tax breaks for millionaires not affect millionaires?

Lets see, that whole payroll tax thing, lets see I got what, $7 more a pay period. Wow maybe I can got to a movie, by myself ::). Mean while because of all the spending and stimulus money, the dollar is devalued. Gas is over $4/gal, groceries cost about $30 -$40 more. How's that extra $7 working out  for the middle class?
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
Lets see, that whole payroll tax thing, lets see I got what, $7 more a pay period. Wow maybe I can got to a movie, by myself ::). Mean while because of all the spending and stimulus money, the dollar is devalued. Gas is over $4/gal, groceries cost about $30 -$40 more. How's that extra $7 working out  for the middle class?

Agree.

But its the same thing with the rich, no?

Kazan

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6799
  • Sic vis pacem, parabellum
Agree.

But its the same thing with the rich, no?

Its all percentages, up until the federal government started collecting income tax, according to the constitution taxes had to be uniform. Now we have a progressive tax system on income tax. So why do the "rich" pay less tax? Well because there income is small in comparison to their investments. because someone is worth 20 million, doesn't mean they have 20 million in income. Raising income tax on the rich is a symbolic gesture at best, and they aren't going to start fucking around with taxes on investment, because then the "rich" won't. The money will end up in a swiss bank account
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

MCWAY

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 19263
  • Getbig!
Its all percentages, up until the federal government started collecting income tax, according to the constitution taxes had to be uniform. Now we have a progressive tax system on income tax. So why do the "rich" pay less tax? Well because there income is small in comparison to their investments. because someone is worth 20 million, doesn't mean they have 20 million in income. Raising income tax on the rich is a symbolic gesture at best, and they aren't going to start fucking around with taxes on investment, because then the "rich" won't. The money will end up in a swiss bank account

And if you don't believe the rich will find ways to keep their money, take a good look at rich liberals (i.e. John Kerry, parking his yacht in Rhode Island, to avoid paying taxes on it in Massachusetts).

Option D

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17367
  • Kelly the Con Way
And if you don't believe the rich will find ways to keep their money, take a good look at rich liberals (i.e. John Kerry, parking his yacht in Rhode Island, to avoid paying taxes on it in Massachusetts).


That longed face muther fucker.. he really did that shit?

SLYY

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1364
  • A mug only your mom could love...
Wrong, SLYY!! For one simple reason: At NO TIME did Romney say, "You didn't build that". Obama clearly stated, "You didn't build that; somebody ELSE made that happen."

That's not stating that someone had help. That's stating that YOU weren't responsible for your business' success. Thanks for playing.




Now, you are going to say, but Romney never said, "you didn't build that."  Okay, let's look at what Romney DID say:

There are A LOT of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That’s an important thing.”


Then Romney says:

"I know that you recognize A LOT OF PEOPLE helped you in that BUSINESS. Perhaps the banks. Investors. There’s no question your mom and dad, your school teacher, the people who provide roads, the fire and police."



Let's compare notes from both speeches regarding where the help/assistance comes from:

Romney said:                                Obama said:
"your mom and dad,"                        "somebody" (i.e. anyone, INCLUDING, "your mom and dad")
"your school teacher,"                      "teacher"
"the people who provide roads"      "somebody invested in roads and bridges"
"the fire and police."                         "fire service"
"investors,"                                        "government"
"banks," and
"government"


Thus, Romney didn't use the exact words "you didn't build that" in his speech.  However, the theme of Romney's speech was, you didn't build that without the help of (see the list above, almost identical to Obama's list).  Moreover, if you have read Obama's speech, you know that he was saying the same thing as Romney and "the sentence" in the middle of the paragraph conforms with the very theme that both candidates' speeches were based on.


Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40060
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.

That longed face muther fucker.. he really did that shit?

Jesus fucking Christ are you ignorant.   You seriously did not know this?  Come on. 

Option D

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17367
  • Kelly the Con Way
Jesus fucking Christ are you ignorant.   You seriously did not know this?  Come on. 

Aye check this out chump. You are the last person to call someone ignorant. I can care less where someone parked their boat. I dont get into the trivial shit. As do you "Obamas wife said something about a egg mcmuffin.. " the shit is just night high on my radar...


Hold up... arent you the same person who had no idea about Iran Contra Affiar and the Drugs.... so hold off on the ignorant shit chief...
Oh yeah.. Ill be in NY in 2 weeks...

blacken700

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11873
  • Getbig!
Aye check this out chump. You are the last person to call someone ignorant. I can care less where someone parked their boat. I dont get into the trivial shit. As do you "Obamas wife said something about a egg mcmuffin.. " the shit is just night high on my radar...


Hold up... arent you the same person who had no idea about Iran Contra Affiar and the Drugs.... so hold off on the ignorant shit chief...
Oh yeah.. Ill be in NY in 2 weeks...

and 333386 will be in california in 2 weeks

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40060
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
and 333386 will be in california in 2 weeks


Blacken - you didnt build that group home you live in - somebody else created that.   Somewhere along the aline, you had some help, maybe a drug dealer, or a pimp, or a gangbanger gave you some help.   


blacken700

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11873
  • Getbig!

Blacken - you didnt build that group home you live in - somebody else created that.   Somewhere along the aline, you had some help, maybe a drug dealer, or a pimp, or a gangbanger gave you some help.   



you think i live in your neighborhood ;D

Option D

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17367
  • Kelly the Con Way

Blacken - you didnt build that group home you live in - somebody else created that.   Somewhere along the aline, you had some help, maybe a drug dealer, or a pimp, or a gangbanger gave you some help.  



6000 miles to Ca from NY....

blacken700

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11873
  • Getbig!
6000 miles to Ca from NY....

what's that about

Option D

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17367
  • Kelly the Con Way
what's that about

What.. you didnt know?... 3333, the guy that calls people ignorant, yeah.. this asshole said its 5000 miles from NY to LA

blacken700

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11873
  • Getbig!
must be taking that short cut through florida  ;D

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40060
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
 :D

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102387
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Paul ryan didn't write to obama asking for money.  Smoebody else wrote that letter.

SLYY

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1364
  • A mug only your mom could love...

tu_holmes

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15922
  • Robot
Paul ryan didn't write to obama asking for money.  Smoebody else wrote that letter.

;D

garebear

  • Time Out
  • Getbig V
  • *
  • Posts: 6491
  • Never question my instincts.
:D
This sign doesn't make any sense.

It sounds like it's arguing FOR Obama's remarks.
G

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40060
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Obama Says: Doctor, You Did Not Graduate From Medical School
 Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2012 | Hal Scherz


Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:08:23


The reason that President Obama uses teleprompters, even when addressing elementary school children, is because he cannot help but reveal who he is and what he believes during moments that involve real spontaneity. He no doubt wishes that he had gotten a “mulligan” for that line that he inadvertently delivered: “you did not build that business”, but it says so much about the man, his agenda, and why he feels the moral superiority to enact it.

Some dismissed the comment, while others called it a Freudian slip. But devotees of Freud maintain that a “slip” is actually caused by an unconscious or repressed wish, feeling or train of thought.

Poker players I know call it a “tell”. I believe it was simply Obama telling America, in a brief moment of honesty, what he really believed about the individual, and their relationship to the state.

“You did not build that business” revealed the antipathy that the president harbors for the individual, especially successful ones. No one is bigger than the state, and hence all that an individual achieves, the government has some claim to- whether it is your wealth, your intellectual property, or you.

Why would President Obama tell the American people lies about doctors, such as “...doctors would rather take out tonsils than treat a sore throat because it pays better” or “… doctors would rather cut off legs for $50,000 than take care of a diabetic before it got to this point”?

It is because he believes that doctors owe fealty to the government for what they have accomplished. Everyone has claim to their success. People need to see them for what they really are- rich, money driven mercenaries. He also needs to denigrate them in order for his agenda to succeed.

“Listen up”, he was saying to doctors. You did not achieve straight A’s in college, working into the late night and on weekends, while your roommates were out partying. Those grades could not have happened without the schools, paid for in part with Federal aid.

You did not graduate from medical school, putting in thousands more hours of studying and hard work. The government subsidized part of the school; your degree belongs to us all.

You did not complete your surgical residency, devoting tens of thousands of hours over 6-9 years, learning your craft and honing your skills, sacrificing your personal life in doing so. No, the government was right there, sending money to the hospitals where you learned how to become a surgeon. You could not have done this without Uncle Sam.

You did not succeed in your medical practice, working on average 60-80 hours every week, missing children’s birthday parties, anniversaries, soccer games and school plays. You did not pay exorbitant malpractice insurance rates to protect yourself from those who wish to prey on your ill-gotten gains.

You did not perform that life-saving cancer operation. The government was there every step of the way and made it possible for that to have happened. Why, the very road that you traveled to get to the hospital that day was built by all of the taxpayers.

And that gang banger that you treated in the emergency room for free in the middle of the night, which the government forced you to see, thanks to the EMTALA law, was something that they felt entitled to take from you- your time and skill- because they own a piece of you.

Herein is the essence of President Obama’s ideology. It is one that not only diminishes personal achievement, but goes on to claim that the fruits that are borne out of the toil leading to that achievement are to be shared with the state and hence everyone.

Obamacare is rooted in this philosophy. The doctors who are being counted upon to care for patients are merely footnotes in this massive new bureaucracy. The healthcare system is being turned upside down with the federal government in charge of deciding who gets what kind of care, by whom, where and how much they will pay for it. Those who engineered Obamacare believe that they can do this because they feel that they own a piece of every doctor in America and that the government has a right to this work.

It becomes easier to do this by convincing Americans that healthcare is an entitlement, and consequently, someone has to provide that care for them. It becomes easier for people to feel that sense of entitlement, if they believe that their doctors are not the compassionate individuals that they thought they were, but rather, greedy opportunists like the President has depicted them.

On the current path, the worst is yet to come. Doctors are quitting in anticipation of government controlling their practices. Doctor shortages are here, but will soon reach epic proportions. Covert rationing of care is coming because there will not be enough doctors to see patients.

There is still time to change course, but the window of opportunity is quickly closing. November 6 will be a referendum on what kind of America we want to have- one where personal achievement is valued, or one where everyone lays claim to those achievements.

SLYY

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1364
  • A mug only your mom could love...
Obama Says: Doctor, You Did Not Graduate From Medical School
 Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2012 | Hal Scherz


Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:08:23


“You did not build that business” revealed the antipathy that the president harbors for the individual, especially successful ones. No one is bigger than the state, and hence all that an individual achieves, the government has some claim to- whether it is your wealth, your intellectual property, or you.

...

The healthcare system is being turned upside down with the federal government in charge...


Posted on July 15, 2012


Obama: "If You've Been Successful, You Didn't Get There On Your Own"


The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

 


It is sad that there are still such uninformed people out there.  I mean, Hal Scherz actually wrote this article without reading/listening Obama's speech.  Moreover, Hal forgot to mention Romney's name as he agrees with Obama on this issue.  Hal also forgot to mention Romneycare and how Romney wanted to nationalize it.  Lots of ignorance in this article.  Nonetheless, thanks for posting because now we can add Hal Scherz to the uninformed writer list.

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Obama Says: Doctor, You Did Not Graduate From Medical School
 Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2012 | Hal Scherz


Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 9:08:23


The reason that President Obama uses teleprompters, even when addressing elementary school children, is because he cannot help but reveal who he is and what he believes during moments that involve real spontaneity. He no doubt wishes that he had gotten a “mulligan” for that line that he inadvertently delivered: “you did not build that business”, but it says so much about the man, his agenda, and why he feels the moral superiority to enact it.

Some dismissed the comment, while others called it a Freudian slip. But devotees of Freud maintain that a “slip” is actually caused by an unconscious or repressed wish, feeling or train of thought.

Poker players I know call it a “tell”. I believe it was simply Obama telling America, in a brief moment of honesty, what he really believed about the individual, and their relationship to the state.


“You did not build that business” revealed the antipathy that the president harbors for the individual, especially successful ones. No one is bigger than the state, and hence all that an individual achieves, the government has some claim to- whether it is your wealth, your intellectual property, or you.

Why would President Obama tell the American people lies about doctors, such as “...doctors would rather take out tonsils than treat a sore throat because it pays better” or “… doctors would rather cut off legs for $50,000 than take care of a diabetic before it got to this point”?

It is because he believes that doctors owe fealty to the government for what they have accomplished. Everyone has claim to their success. People need to see them for what they really are- rich, money driven mercenaries. He also needs to denigrate them in order for his agenda to succeed.

“Listen up”, he was saying to doctors. You did not achieve straight A’s in college, working into the late night and on weekends, while your roommates were out partying. Those grades could not have happened without the schools, paid for in part with Federal aid.

You did not graduate from medical school, putting in thousands more hours of studying and hard work. The government subsidized part of the school; your degree belongs to us all.

You did not complete your surgical residency, devoting tens of thousands of hours over 6-9 years, learning your craft and honing your skills, sacrificing your personal life in doing so. No, the government was right there, sending money to the hospitals where you learned how to become a surgeon. You could not have done this without Uncle Sam.

You did not succeed in your medical practice, working on average 60-80 hours every week, missing children’s birthday parties, anniversaries, soccer games and school plays. You did not pay exorbitant malpractice insurance rates to protect yourself from those who wish to prey on your ill-gotten gains.

You did not perform that life-saving cancer operation. The government was there every step of the way and made it possible for that to have happened. Why, the very road that you traveled to get to the hospital that day was built by all of the taxpayers.

And that gang banger that you treated in the emergency room for free in the middle of the night, which the government forced you to see, thanks to the EMTALA law, was something that they felt entitled to take from you- your time and skill- because they own a piece of you.

Herein is the essence of President Obama’s ideology. It is one that not only diminishes personal achievement, but goes on to claim that the fruits that are borne out of the toil leading to that achievement are to be shared with the state and hence everyone.

Obamacare is rooted in this philosophy. The doctors who are being counted upon to care for patients are merely footnotes in this massive new bureaucracy. The healthcare system is being turned upside down with the federal government in charge of deciding who gets what kind of care, by whom, where and how much they will pay for it. Those who engineered Obamacare believe that they can do this because they feel that they own a piece of every doctor in America and that the government has a right to this work.

It becomes easier to do this by convincing Americans that healthcare is an entitlement, and consequently, someone has to provide that care for them. It becomes easier for people to feel that sense of entitlement, if they believe that their doctors are not the compassionate individuals that they thought they were, but rather, greedy opportunists like the President has depicted them.

On the current path, the worst is yet to come. Doctors are quitting in anticipation of government controlling their practices. Doctor shortages are here, but will soon reach epic proportions. Covert rationing of care is coming because there will not be enough doctors to see patients.

There is still time to change course, but the window of opportunity is quickly closing. November 6 will be a referendum on what kind of America we want to have- one where personal achievement is valued, or one where everyone lays claim to those achievements.


Why is this guy making up quotes?

when did Obama say "you did not build that business"?

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 40060
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
'WE DID BUILD IT': SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TAUNTS OBAMA MOTORCADE
Breitbart ^ | August 18,2012 | by LARRY O'CONNOR
Posted on August 18, 2012 10:22:59 PM EDT by Hojczyk

On a beautiful August day when most people are enjoying the weather and leisure time, self-made man Al Letizio organized a protest against the President of the United States.

This New Hampshire businessman set up signage outside his business to let Mr. Obama know that in America, the free market still works and small businessmen aren't obligated to grovel on bended knee to thank the federal government for allowing them to exist.

Al Letizio owns a small food service business that just happens to be situated along President Obama’s motorcade route to his rally in New Hampshire today. Mr. Letizio, like so many other small business owners across the country, is annoyed at the President's infamous, off-prompter declaration that business owners in America "didn't build that." In fact, it's quite the opposite. The federal government is funded by people like Mr. Letizio.

Check out these pictures from earlier today as Mr. Letizio hung a “We Did Build It” sign on his storefront as Obama drove by, with Romney supporters cheering him on.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...