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The True Adonis

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If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« on: July 23, 2012, 05:34:59 AM »
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 05:43:46 AM »
Youtube Comment: guy logic: "Imma beat yo ass niqqa!" "YOU CAINT TOUCH ME LYKE DAT DOG"
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 05:53:12 AM »
once again, your knowledge of urban life is pathetic, wikiANUS.  TX and LA have more bike thieves per 100,000 residence than any other city I've seen.  And I'd know, since I had 4 bikes stolen during my youth. 
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 05:54:18 AM »
From the Victim:

GangStalkers Attempted Bike Theft

Apparently: “This is a glimpse of politics in the age of social networking, politics as organized crime. The Black guy wearing black, LBPD say he is Walmart loss prevention. That's right he is on the job during this. The basic message here is that "NOBODY" cares about your safety here. Security will not call police, nor will they intervene. We thugs run this environment, YOU don't know where your at right now...
tummyauto 4 days ago
In case you are wondering why I was filming, yes there is a reason. I am being group stalked in LA. No I am not Paranoid this is happening to people and its real. I have witnesses from the social services institution that is supporting me. And no I don't have any mental health problems. The community outreach from councilwoman Suja Lowenthal's office has seen the video and is working to improve bike parking at the mall but will not get involved in addressing stalking in the district. Quote, "It's pretty far reaching" Ramone Agulare, community outreach.
This is a glimpse of politics in the age of social networking, politics as organized crime. The Black guy wearing black, LBPD say he is Walmart loss prevention. That's right he is on the job during this.
More detailed explanation here.
princeofnetworks.com/2009/09/24/web-2-0-culture-wars-the-end-of-effective-rule-of-law/
tummyauto 5 days ago
Filmed on a Kodak Zi6 attached to my messenger bag. After the video I called and waited 45mi after several calls for police to respond. LBPD officer watched video and blew it off. Said if I was afraid of him he could arrest him for terrorist threat, but since...
Got forwarded to Ramone Agular in Councilman Loenthal's office where it lead to LBPD taking the video as evidence to charge the perp with something when he gets out of lockup. Where he is now for bike theft.
My concern is with the older security guard clearly working with them. LBPD said they would investigate him, and that he should be fired. I rode by him yesterday, he's still there. All they need to do is dump his phone and look for ties to know offenders.
So I think I basically got lip serviced. Turns out the only real currency these days is Public Relations. LB is concerned about it's image to a point so the more eyes view this the more chance there is of Lowenthals's office making enough noise to get the criminal culture turned around. Get the Plat security guard fired... Plat security is owned by an X LBPD BTW...”

Not my video. Guy is in jail now. My first real LL. Enjoy & vote it.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 05:56:38 AM »
The guy with the camera is more confrontational than anyone else in that video.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 05:59:03 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 05:56:38 AM
The guy with the camera is more confrontational than anyone else in that video.
The victim is the perpetrator now? Is that really how you see it?  He was threatened with violence and his bike was about to be stolen, yet he is the perpetrator.  How in the world does one arrive at this conclusion?
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 06:02:52 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 05:56:38 AM
The guy with the camera is more confrontational than anyone else in that video.

If I saw someone stealing my bike, and was also threatened with being beat-up by the would-be robber

I just might get confrontational too.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 06:05:40 AM »
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 06:06:41 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on July 23, 2012, 06:05:40 AM


Very good to see, natural selection taking its course.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2012, 06:08:37 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on July 23, 2012, 05:59:03 AM
The victim is the perpetrator now? Is that really how you see it?  He was threatened with violence and his bike was about to be stolen, yet he is the perpetrator.  How in the world does one arrive at this conclusion?
What can one possibly achieve in that situation once the act has been made?
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2012, 06:12:18 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 06:08:37 AM
What can one possibly achieve in that situation once the act has been made?
So he should have just lowered his head, walked the other way and said sorry, you can steal my bike?  What should he have done in your opinion?
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2012, 06:16:11 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on July 23, 2012, 06:12:18 AM
So he should have just lowered his head, walked the other way and said sorry, you can steal my bike?  What should he have done in your opinion?

Adam, I got back from surfing in Devon England last week. The warm scones, with tiptree strawberry jam and clotted cream were divine.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2012, 06:16:58 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on July 23, 2012, 06:12:18 AM
So he should have just lowered his head, walked the other way and said sorry, you can steal my bike?  What should he have done in your opinion?
Answer my question.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 06:22:54 AM »
Quote from: BigCyp on July 23, 2012, 06:16:11 AM
Adam, I got back from surfing in Devon England last week. The warm scones, with tiptree strawberry jam and clotted cream were divine.
August 20, 2008 I made a post about eating TipTree on my Popovers! 

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229869.msg3235198#msg3235198
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2012, 06:27:00 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 06:16:58 AM
Answer my question.
He could have achieved a lot and according to his later comments, he did.  He has exposed a crime ring and its all on film.  Also, he has the guy on tape threatening him which is a serious crime.  With a gun, he may have been able to achieve more.  He wouldn`t even have to pull it out.  Just having it visibly holstered at his side in plain view would have been enough in that it is doubtful that thug would have "stepped" to him in the manner in which he did.

Its a great visible deterrence.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2012, 06:27:31 AM »
I never saw a black person participating in the Tour de France, so I assumed negro's cannot ride a bycicle...

Can't swim either...


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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2012, 06:29:32 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 05:56:38 AM
The guy with the camera is more confrontational than anyone else in that video.

People trying to steal your bike and you say nothing?

Isn't it even concerning you when you realize that the dude with Walmart Loss Prevention was helping them as well?

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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2012, 06:30:08 AM »
Quote from: Raymondo on July 23, 2012, 06:02:52 AM
If I saw someone stealing my bike, and was also threatened with being beat-up by the would-be robber

I just might get confrontational too.
And what would that have achieved?

Even if you so much as shot the guy what does that act achieve? A confrontation that has escalated exponentially...
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 06:31:50 AM »
Quote from: Dr Dutch on July 23, 2012, 06:27:31 AM
I never saw a black person participating in the Tour de France, so I assumed negro's cannot ride a bycicle...

Can't swim either...




american blacks don't like long distance events, and it's not like africans, who excel at distance events, can afford bikes and to ride 25 miles in the plains with lion prides near by, or i'm guessing they'd be pretty competitive in this event like the Boston Marathon.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2012, 06:33:24 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 06:30:08 AM
And what would that have achieved?

Even if you so much as shot the guy what does that act achieve? A confrontation that has escalated exponentially...
We cannot predict the future so therefore we cannot know exactly the effect of any of our actions or the consequences thereof.  However, if you just surrender your life, property and freedom willfully, what else do you really have left?
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2012, 06:37:03 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on July 23, 2012, 06:22:54 AM
August 20, 2008 I made a post about eating TipTree on my Popovers! 

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=229869.msg3235198#msg3235198

Yes my friend, the little scarlet version is ridiculously moreish. The first time I ever ate preserve straight out the pot with a spoon! The Wilkin & Sons farm is pretty close to where we live - we have great soil & climate in essex for berries.
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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2012, 06:40:51 AM »
Quote from: BigCyp on July 23, 2012, 06:37:03 AM
Yes my friend, the little scarlet version is ridiculously moreish. The first time I ever ate preserve straight out the pot with a spoon! The Wilkin & Sons farm is pretty close to where we live - we have great soil & climate in essex for berries.

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Re: If this guy lived in Texas, he could have (probably should have) been shot.
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2012, 06:40:56 AM »
Quote from: BigCyp on July 23, 2012, 06:37:03 AM
Yes my friend, the little scarlet version is ridiculously moreish. The first time I ever ate preserve straight out the pot with a spoon! The Wilkin & Sons farm is pretty close to where we live - we have great soil & climate in essex for berries.

hahaha you live in essex? ahahahahahaahaha
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2012, 06:41:09 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on July 23, 2012, 06:33:24 AM
We cannot predict the future so therefore we cannot know exactly the effect of any of our actions or the consequences that will result.  However, if you just surrender your life, property and freedom willfully, what else do you really have left?
Sure we cannot predict the future. What we can do is evaluate risks and likely consequences of our actions. In this particular circumstance perhaps chaining your bike near these types of people or area is not the best option. This situation would never have arisen if the correct risk assessment had been made. Whether your ego allows you to act on your proper judgment is another point entirely. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2012, 06:45:12 AM »
Quote from: io856 on July 23, 2012, 06:41:09 AM
Sure we cannot predict the future. What we can do is evaluate risks and likely consequences of our actions. In this particular circumstance perhaps chaining your bike near these types of people or area is not the best option. This situation would never have arisen if the correct risk assessment had been made. Whether your ego allows you to act on your proper judgment is another point entirely.  

You see, you shouldn`t have to cater to those breaking the law.  The more you give them, the more they are going to take and the worse off everyone is as a result.
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