First Cylce

[ALeit]

Here is what my first cycle is going to look like. All opinions or thoughts would be appreciated

Weeks 1-10----150 mg EOD Test Prop
Weeks 1-6----100 MG Tren
Weeks 11-14--PCT

I have been lifting for about 9 yrs now. I'm 6'5", 260 lbs, 12% BF. I eat pretty clean and have been wanting to get into competitive bodybuilding for a year now. My sources say, that this cycle should do me pretty well, and my BF should drop pretty low.

[DIVISION]

Weeks 1-10----150 mg EOD Test Prop
Weeks 1-6----100 MG Tren
Weeks 11-14--PCT

Re-write this in a format that's easy to follow.

How many MG TEST per week?

100MG Tren Acetate every day?

What are you running for PCT?

You have given me nothing.

Give specifics and you get specific answers, otherwise what is the point of asking for advice and opinions?   




DIV

[ALeit]

Sorry.

This is what it will look like

Test Prop---150 Mg EOD- so that comes out to 450Mg per week
Tren A---100 MG EOD---comes out to 300 MG per week
PCT=Clomid 50 MG ED for 4 weeks

[DIVISION]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:


Weeks 1-12----Test Prop---450MG EW
Weeks 1-4------D-bol 50MG ED
Weeks 5-12----Tren A---100 MG ED
Weeks 1-12----Arimidex 1MG EOD
Weeks 13-17--PCT=Clomid 50 MG ED for 4 weeks
                                Nolvadex 20MG ED for 4 weeks




DIV

[blaster]

There goes the freak again. Nice work, Div. 

[ALeit]

Well, as much as I would love a cycle like that, the funds just aren't there. I want to try this cycle to see what kind of results I can get. After that, then I will adjust accordingly. Thanks for the input.

[DIVISION]

Well, as much as I would love a cycle like that, the funds just aren't there. I want to try this cycle to see what kind of results I can get. After that, then I will adjust accordingly. Thanks for the input.

I think you'd better wait until you can acquire the funds, the cycle would be so much better.

As is you're going in with your ass hanging out.....

Good luck in whatever you choose.




DIV

[big-bri]

I'd do it like this..
Prop-100mg/eod weeks 1-10
Tren-A 75mg/eod weeks 5-10
Clomid/Nolv weeks 11-14

Thats plenty for a first cycle. You should see some lean gains as well as a reduction in BF, depending on your diet. I would not do any D-bol if your looking to drop BF.

[ALeit]

So you think I would see better results with dropping BF if I did the Tren at the end of the cycle??

[big-bri]

So you think I would see better results with dropping BF if I did the Tren at the end of the cycle??

Yeah.

[Kegdrainer]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:


Weeks 1-12----Test Prop---450MG EW
Weeks 1-4------D-bol 50MG ED
Weeks 5-12----Tren A---100 MG ED
Weeks 1-12----Arimidex 1MG EOD
Weeks 13-17--PCT=Clomid 50 MG ED for 4 weeks
                                Nolvadex 20MG ED for 4 weeks


You dont think 1mg EOD is a little excessive for that small amount of aromitizables? 

Div knows his stuff though, I shouldnt question the walking pharmcyclepedia.  Certainly a good first cycle if you are looking to work on some mass and strength.  With a decent source it really only breaks down to about a $50 per week total. 



DIV

[DIVISION]

You dont think 1mg EOD is a little excessive for that small amount of aromitizables?

Arimidex 1MG eod is standard......

I'm sure he could probably stretch it to E3D, but remember the half-life of the drug.

EOD is ideal.






DIV

[Kegdrainer]

Arimidex 1MG eod is standard......

I'm sure he could probably stretch it to E3D, but remember the half-life of the drug.

EOD is ideal.


Ok 2 things.

1.  Before anyone misquotes someone I screwed up the quote and somehow posted inside of your quote

2.  I understand the half life of arimidex but I was just saying since there is only a very small amount of aromitization with that cycle you could get away with half a mg EOD to start and step it up if needed later on. 







DIV

[mem]

I think you'd better wait until you can acquire the funds, the cycle would be so much better.

As is you're going in with your ass hanging out.....

Good luck in whatever you choose.




DIV

I would rather see someone do the right thing
than DO(ing) something right away . . .
someitmes it is just better to wait . . .

As always DIV - wisdom spoken . . .

[DIVISION]

I understand the half life of arimidex but I was just saying since there is only a very small amount of aromitization with that cycle you could get away with half a mg EOD to start and step it up if needed later on.

The amount of aromatization differs in everyone depending on genetic disposition to the drug, so it's better to be safe than sorry, IMO.

I don't deviate and I will always use at least 1MG Arimidex eod.

If you choose to go lower, obviously that's your perogative.




DIV

[freakfestMD]

If you choose to go lower, obviously that's your perogative.




DIV

Best to stay at "standard" for your first and even second and third cycles.  Once you read how YOUR body reacts, you can then see how tinkering with the dosages affects you.

[DIVISION]

Best to stay at "standard" for your first and even second and third cycles.  Once you read how YOUR body reacts, you can then see how tinkering with the dosages affects you.

Right.




DIV

[Arnold jr]

Arimidex 1MG eod is standard......

I'm sure he could probably stretch it to E3D, but remember the half-life of the drug.

EOD is ideal.






DIV

Agreed, nothing wrong with that dosage. Last cycle I ran 1g ed, maybe a bit of over-kill, but it did the trick... no bloat, no sides of any kind... Thanks Arimidex