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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #175 on: April 09, 2013, 10:50:08 AM »
Didn't watch the video's, but yea she was divisive because she didn't take any shit.  If you pushed her she pushed back harder.  That is how she earned the name "iron lady."  As for Apartheid, technically it is wrong.  However you can't argue that South Africa was a hell of a lot better off in just about ever aspect under it.  Even many blacks living over there will admit that. 

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #176 on: April 09, 2013, 11:04:21 AM »
lol @ chris  :-X :(

you have nothing else in your life

you get up- log in and stay here all day until you fall asleep

you have nothing going on in your life , nothing , it's empty except for the rare night out when you drink water at a club and drive home alone



*thanks Lulu


Your obamaphone get reupped for minutes? 

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #177 on: April 09, 2013, 11:50:50 AM »
of course not


the law only applies to thatcher when it agrees with her

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #178 on: April 09, 2013, 12:06:17 PM »
'Apartheid Supporter' Margaret Thatcher & Her Mixed Legacy
Incurably Divisive: Margaret Thatcher Left a 'Dark Legacy' That Still Lingers

Really?  :o




























Sounds like a great politician, the kind of woman that could possibly save Europe today.

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #179 on: April 09, 2013, 12:30:16 PM »
a lot of Emotions going on here...i love it... ;D

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #180 on: April 09, 2013, 12:41:41 PM »
;)
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”


Margaret Thatcher was terrible but she isn't nearly as bad as America's GOP base circa 2013. WATCH & LEARN THE TRUTH
'Conservative' Margaret Thatcher's History of 'Socialism'; USSR, Reagan Fal


oh brother...take your 241 posts and go get a job.

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #181 on: April 09, 2013, 01:23:27 PM »
She was an utter bag of shit who forced millions of familys into povety by her closing of the mines which was only for her own selfish reasons. Mining and building have always been a staple of the north for employment and the old c unt fucked both of them up.

To say the people who hate her are lazy benifits scroungers is plain wrong. She is hated (at least where i live) for taking away work for thousands.
Its you pansy never worked a real days work in your life fuckers who think she is great.

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #182 on: April 09, 2013, 01:26:51 PM »
sorry the facts render you butthurt

'Voice of Doom'...oh, brother  ::)

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #183 on: April 09, 2013, 01:38:55 PM »
so you are implying that free health care, education and nationally owned industry are bad things to be discouraged?

seriously.

for what it is worth I earn in the highest bracket in the UK. I am happy to pay taxes at a higher rate- I neither want nor expect tax breaks. However the tories just now have given me a tax break. why?

its nonsense.

I would happily be heavily taxed if it meant getting education back to being free or subsidised and or the NHS back to where it belongs.

also pull us out of petro-wars, regulate the bankers and their 'bonus system' for fucking up. you should just a country by how they help or treat those who are least able to help themselves- eg the elderly and the poor. we used to be good at it. since thatcher and her doctrine we have gone downhill.


the tories look after the rich and the idiots who think they can break into the old school tie network- you can't its a closed shop but the carrott they offer will bring the naive into line.

the wealthy protect the wealthy- and rely on working the poor over. not for me.

Agreed 100%.


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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #184 on: April 09, 2013, 01:46:37 PM »
I'm not familiar with the mining situation, was it something like our stupid Auto Bailout?


Why we didn't let incompetent companies fail, to be replaced by competent companies like Honda and Toyota that would almost instantly fill that void is beyond me.  ::)

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #185 on: April 09, 2013, 02:02:48 PM »
I'm not familiar with the mining situation, was it something like our stupid Auto Bailout?


Why we didn't let incompetent companies fail, to be replaced by competent companies like Honda and Toyota that would almost instantly fill that void is beyond me.  ::)

Exactly.  Entitlements/bailouts/no bid contracts/unions/monopolies all keep innovation down.  Competition increases resource outputs while minimizing resource inputs and results in lower prices for the consumer.  This benefits all...especially the poor.

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #186 on: April 09, 2013, 02:06:41 PM »
Exactly.  Entitlements/bailouts/no bid contracts/unions/monopolies all keep innovation down.  Competition increases resource outputs while minimizing resource inputs and results in lower prices for the consumer.  This benefits all...especially the poor.

Thank you!

No one wants to see people lose their jobs, but we just increase the problem 10x when we try and prop up failing enterprise.


It doesn't sound (could be wrong) like Thatcher killed mining/manufacturing, only that she was smart enough not to mettle in something that couldn't be fixed.

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #187 on: April 09, 2013, 02:10:57 PM »
Has the topic of WYHI been breached yet?

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #188 on: April 09, 2013, 02:36:50 PM »
if competition is good

why did thatcher monopolise and cartel rig the national industry bids

the only competition she wanted was one that her people would win

as for the miners unless you understand the politics behind it and the way she crushed communities putting generations on the scrapheap then you really shouldn't comment.

to give you a comparative


take all the media/tech/corporate/ entertainment companies out of california in one fell swoop and replace them with nothing at all. for years. what would the US citizens do? they would take to the streets right. that is what the mining communities did.

what would the US people do?

accept it?

or fight back and defend their communities and industry?


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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #189 on: April 09, 2013, 02:38:58 PM »
and then in response

bus in loads of residents from outside the area

and pay them more than you were paying the original communities.

but tell them that you can't pay them that money as their jobs are no longer there.


again.

what would you do?

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #190 on: April 09, 2013, 03:03:40 PM »

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #191 on: April 09, 2013, 03:05:41 PM »
you've avoided the point i made mate.

in your own time eh?

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #192 on: April 09, 2013, 06:05:38 PM »
:D


 ;D


 :)


Damn, what a creepy bunch of fuckers. 

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #193 on: April 09, 2013, 06:13:38 PM »
believe it or not, but uk has the best healthcare system in the world imo

ofc it depends on how one values life and philosophy and lives of others.





Evil Republicans like "The Coach" that are against socialized medicine give more to charity than you, I can almost guarantee it.

We'll help others because it's the right thing to do, not because it's the law. 

Enjoy your healthcare, funded by, and against the will of those who are more productive than yourself. 

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #194 on: April 09, 2013, 06:33:56 PM »
How do you prove and/or quantify this? Just by your own arrogance?

I'm being a jerk here obviously.  Keep up the good work galeniko!  Although I strongly disagree with your politics, I'm glad you're happy with the healthcare system in your country.


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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #195 on: April 09, 2013, 06:37:04 PM »
The Coach isn't evil. From what I can gather, he is just really, really stupid and out of his element when talking about anything other than athletic/bodybuilding training.
How do you prove and/or quantify this? Just by your own arrogance?


Go back to the project and stfu

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #196 on: April 09, 2013, 06:57:15 PM »
ha,just bc we dont agree on all politic matters dont mean we wouldnt go and have fun in some brothel together 8)

Hell yeah!!!  8)

I think the difference here really comes down to our opinions on what motivates humans, and what life is all about, philosophy (like you said).


Socialism is universal mediocrity, I want the freedom to succeed or crash and burn.


Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others that have been tried.  ;D

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #197 on: April 09, 2013, 11:06:52 PM »
always love it when someone says they are in top tax bracket and dont mind paying the taxes as its a worthy cause, you just know their talking bollocks, worthy feeding celts like donny and their disability pensioned families all wasting their money on lager and fags, and african ragheads who come for a better life but stay for the welfare cheques, please, just dont lie you broke ass pleb mother farkers  ;D

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #198 on: April 09, 2013, 11:32:12 PM »
From another forum...

The curious ghoulishness of Thatcher-death celebrations
"What exactly were they celebrating? Thatcher hadn’t been in power in over 22 years. An entire generation has gone by since Thatcher left office, and the Tories have held power only briefly since. If these people are so miserable and put her in the center of that misery, perhaps they should ask why their lot in life hasn’t improved since she left office.

Normally, this kind of celebration takes place when brutal dictators die while still clinging to power, not when elected leaders pass away 22 years after they honored the will of the electorate. That’s a key point, too — Thatcher didn’t seize power and rig elections to keep it, like the mullahs of Iran or (arguably) Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. The voters of the UK made her Prime Minister, and kept her in place as she rolled out the policies that returned the British to economic, military, and diplomatic strength. If these ghouls want to protest, they should probably protest their own people instead of a long-retired popular leader whose place in history won’t be threatened at all by people who struggle to spell correctly (see pic at the article):

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/09/the-curious-ghoulishness-of-thatcher-death-celebrations/

Why has their lot NOT improved since she left office? Good question. Blaming someone else for your own failure is so much easier.

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Re: PIP Margerat Thatcher
« Reply #199 on: April 10, 2013, 12:00:40 AM »
always love it when someone says they are in top tax bracket and dont mind paying the taxes as its a worthy cause, you just know their talking bollocks, worthy feeding celts like donny and their disability pensioned families all wasting their money on lager and fags, and african ragheads who come for a better life but stay for the welfare cheques, please, just dont lie you broke ass pleb mother farkers  ;D
like i wrote before you are a cock. Bet you were one of these young Conservative party poofs who waved the Union Jack but never saw a Uniform and fought like a lot of the working class boys did. My Family have all served and worked. you want to say it to my face boy. Working class and proud. Brood all night did you Boy because i called you a fucking cock? hurt your feelings? your comments are so weak, lager and cigarettes..you tool.