Author Topic: Which linebacker would you choose? LT or Urlacher? (Read 5738 times)

funk51 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:20:16 AM »

Quote from: dj181 on May 23, 2013, 01:49:34 AM

x2 for the intimidation factor, bednarik rates too.

funk51 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:22:24 AM »

Quote from: dj181 on May 23, 2013, 01:49:34 AM

funk51 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 23, 2013, 08:23:44 AM »

Quote from: funk51 on May 23, 2013, 08:20:16 AM

x2 for the intimidation factor, bednarik rates too.

chuck b last real 60 minute man, center/ linebacker still alive.

wild willie · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2013, 09:46:10 AM »

yes.......bednarik was one tough sob!!!

i'd go to war with that guy!!

snx · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2013, 10:34:17 AM »

Urlacher isn't even the Bear's best ever middle LB.

Butkus was better. So too was Mike Singletary. Both exceed Urlacher.

And then there are better middle linebackers in history too (including Butkus and Singletary).

Lambert
Ray Lewis
Nitschke
Sam Huff
Seau
Willie Lanier

But Urlacher is certainly one of the top 20 middle linebackers of all time.

no one · « **Reply #30 on:** May 23, 2013, 10:42:34 AM »

ray lewis or mike singletary.

overall i'd say ray lewis. in his prime there was no player feared in the NFL more than ray lewis. in fact i'd go as far to say not just the most skilled ILB of all time, but most feared of all time by his rivals. thats a bad combination for anyone lining up and the O side of the line.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #31 on:** May 23, 2013, 10:50:05 AM »

Quote from: no one on May 23, 2013, 10:42:34 AM

ray lewis or mike singletary.

overall i'd say ray lewis. in his prime there was no player feared in the NFL more than ray lewis. in fact i'd go as far to say not just the most skilled ILB of all time, but most feared of all time by his rivals. thats a bad combination for anyone lining up and the O side of the line.

Ray Lewis' sideline to sideline speed in his prime was unbelievable. He could win any one on one matchup with any running back. Combine that with an incredible football IQ and work ethic, along with being a natural leader....and you have the best to ever play the middle linebacker position.

Option D · « **Reply #32 on:** May 23, 2013, 10:52:02 AM »

Quote from: snx on May 23, 2013, 10:34:17 AM

Urlacher isn't even the Bear's best ever middle LB.

Butkus was better. So too was Mike Singletary. Both exceed Urlacher.

And then there are better middle linebackers in history too (including Butkus and Singletary).

Lambert
Ray Lewis
Nitschke
Sam Huff
Seau
Willie Lanier

But Urlacher is certainly one of the top 20 middle linebackers of all time.

Seau was an outside linbacker

Option D · « **Reply #33 on:** May 23, 2013, 10:53:30 AM »

Murder Ray is definatley number 1 on the list.

Then Dick and then Chuck

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 23, 2013, 07:04:11 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on May 23, 2013, 10:50:05 AM

Ray Lewis' sideline to sideline speed in his prime was unbelievable. He could win any one on one matchup with any running back. Combine that with an incredible football IQ and work ethic, along with being a natural leader....and you have the best to ever play the middle linebacker position.

Everything you just said.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #35 on:** May 23, 2013, 09:36:37 PM »

Didn't Urlacher date the tree hugging, picketing Jenny McCarthy...That alone tells me that Urlacher drinks wine coolers and puts the pussy on a pedestal...While LT gets coked up and takes the pussy...LT all the way baby!!!

Beefjake · « **Reply #36 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:26:28 AM »

Tough one.

I think that the game evolves all the time. Not neccesarily for the better but faster at least.

Taylor of the '80s would still be good today,but not clearly above others physically like he used to be.

Passing game is more and more of quick, max 3 step drops, it would affect LT as well. Maybe offences
could play around him more than they did back then?

LT was better rusher for sure but Urlacher was more complete linebacker.

240_Iz_Nutz · « **Reply #37 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:29:58 AM »

I always liked Tippett. I would take LT, Tippett, Ray Lewis and Butkus and play a 3-4. That would be fun to go against.

240_Iz_Nutz · « **Reply #38 on:** May 24, 2013, 01:34:23 AM »

Von Miller is up there to me too, but you can't compare all these guys over different eras in any correct sort of way. Von is just getting started too. There have been tons of good LB's. A guy like Carl Banks who helped LT a ton was great. The Saints have had a few good ones like Jackson and Swilling, Sam Mills. It is just tough to rank players.

Seven Copper Coins · « **Reply #39 on:** May 24, 2013, 03:40:42 AM »

Jets had some good backers. Mo lewis, Vilma..who is still a pro bowler with the saints. Jets always seem to let their best defensive players go.

CalvinH · « **Reply #40 on:** May 24, 2013, 07:37:36 AM »

Quote from: 240_Iz_Nutz on May 24, 2013, 01:34:23 AM

Von Miller is up there to me too, but you can't compare all these guys over different eras in any correct sort of way. Von is just getting started too. There have been tons of good LB's. A guy like Carl Banks who helped LT a ton was great. The Saints have had a few good ones like Jackson and Swilling, Sam Mills. It is just tough to rank players.

I think you got it backwards...LT helped Carl Banks...LT was already rookie defensive player of the year and a pro bowler.

vinnydountsnyc · « **Reply #41 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:05:48 AM »

you just went full retard with that question boy ! LT all the way and a Stellers fan

snx · « **Reply #42 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:32:36 AM »

Quote from: Option D on May 23, 2013, 10:52:02 AM

Seau was an outside linbacker

He may have played some OLB in some packages, but he's far better known as an outstanding ILB and his performance at that position is what will land him in the HOF.

snx · « **Reply #43 on:** May 24, 2013, 08:39:58 AM »

Quote from: no one on May 23, 2013, 10:42:34 AM

ray lewis or mike singletary.

overall i'd say ray lewis. in his prime there was no player feared in the NFL more than ray lewis. in fact i'd go as far to say not just the most skilled ILB of all time, but most feared of all time by his rivals. thats a bad combination for anyone lining up and the O side of the line.

I'd rank the following as the most feared defensive players of all-time, at their prime, when they played (in no particular order):

Butkus
Dick Nighttrain Lane
Ronnie Lott
Ray Lewis
Joe Greene
Willie Brown
LT
Reggie White and that crazy head slap
Deion Sanders (not because he could hit you, but because he was a ball hawk)
Ed Reed (same as with Sanders - total ball hawk who embarassed quarterbacks and offensive coordinators for a decade)

And Anthony Munoz. No one ever shows love to the hogs. So even though an OL, he makes my list because no one was ever greater.

HockeyFightFan · « **Reply #44 on:** May 24, 2013, 09:13:23 AM »

Quote from: Beefjake on May 24, 2013, 01:26:28 AM

Tough one.
I think that the game evolves all the time. Not neccesarily for the better but faster at least.
Taylor of the '80s would still be good today,but not clearly above others physically like he used to be.
Passing game is more and more of quick, max 3 step drops, it would affect LT as well. Maybe offences
could play around him more than they did back then?
LT was better rusher for sure but Urlacher was more complete linebacker.

No.....LT was head and shoulders above Urlacher in any era, and I'm a Bears fan. LT had to be accounted for and double teamed on EVERY play.

Ask Joe Thiesman what happens when you have a back coming out of the backfield cover LT.

wild willie · « **Reply #45 on:** May 24, 2013, 09:32:22 AM »

wait a minute......if you are talking about a player that struck fear in the hearts of many......we have to include the late great Jack Tatum!!

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #46 on:** May 24, 2013, 09:33:27 AM »

Quote from: wild willie on May 24, 2013, 09:32:22 AM

wait a minute......if you are talking about a player that struck fear in the hearts of many......we have to include the late great Jack Tatum!!

Jack ruled beat the piss out of alot of people.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #47 on:** May 24, 2013, 09:34:10 AM »

Quote from: HockeyFightFan on May 24, 2013, 09:13:23 AM

No.....LT was head and shoulders above Urlacher in any era, and I'm a Bears fan. LT had to be accounted for and double teamed on EVERY play.

Ask Joe Thiesman what happens when you have a back coming out of the backfield cover LT.

x2 and I'm a Bears fan too. It's absolutely not a "tough one", lol.

dj181 · « **Reply #48 on:** May 24, 2013, 09:41:43 AM »

Quote from: wild willie on May 24, 2013, 09:32:22 AM

wait a minute......if you are talking about a player that struck fear in the hearts of many......we have to include the late great Jack Tatum!!

wild willie · « **Reply #49 on:** May 24, 2013, 09:45:14 AM »

A TRULY MEAN MOFO!!!!