Getting Ripped on 502 Grams of Carbs, Beer, Butter, Cake, Ice Cream , Cigarettes

[deadpan]

http://www.livescience.com/10569-human-lifespans-constant-2-000-years.html

Article:
Human Lifespans Nearly Constant for 2,000 Years

But the inclusion of infant mortality rates in calculating life expectancy creates the mistaken impression that earlier generations died at a young age; Americans were not dying en masse at the age of 46 in 1907. The fact is that the maximum human lifespan — a concept often confused with "life expectancy" — has remained more or less the same for thousands of years. The idea that our ancestors routinely died young (say, at age 40) has no basis in scientific fact.

that's bullshit and you know it.

of course MAX LIFESPAN hasn't increased, no fucking shit. there's always one freak of nature that lives to 130 but that's hardly indicative of the average person. hell if you believe christian bullshit the max lifespan used to be like 250 years or something.

[Marty Champions]

You can easily find maintenance and adapt to a maintenance amount which will allow you to eat the most possible food without any negative weight gain (fat).

Or you could just make sure you are active and not over eat.  The only excuse for obesity is gluttony and laziness.

many have been active and not overeating for YEARS but there phsysique is nothing to scream about

[Marty Champions]

i only had a good phsyque because of drastic measures and training dieting ect

if it was all about "adopting to a maintenance caloric range" as u propose then we'd have ton of celbrating muscle boys on here posting pics of themselves around the clock

[The True Adonis]

that's bullshit and you know it.

of course MAX LIFESPAN hasn't increased, no fucking shit. there's always one freak of nature that lives to 130 but that's hardly indicative of the average person. hell if you believe christian bullshit the max lifespan used to be like 250 years or something.

I don`t think you understand that article. 

[The True Adonis]

i only had a good phsyque because of drastic measures and training dieting ect

if it was all about "adopting to a maintenance caloric range" as u propose then we'd have ton of celbrating muscle boys on here posting pics of themselves around the clock

You THOUGHT you had to take drastic measures when in reality you didn`t.  You did maintain a great physique for a long time and I am sure you weren`t doing DRASTIC measure the entire time.  If you took a more balanced approach, say 2500-3200 calories every single day from your leanest, you would have remained the same pretty much.

Of course you would need to get your daily requirements of Macro and Micro nutrients in order which should happen automatically by default if you are eating like a normal person.  However, if you are restricting your food choices drastically, you may be deficient in a lot of things.  This goes for any kind of restrictive diet. 

[Disgusted]

He did.  The average person back then was eating 3000-4000 plus calories (more than what people eat today actually on average).  They were moving a lot more and doing a lot more.  No sitting around.

Lol so this guy would have had to be moving a hell of a lot about 3 hours worth of running per day. 

[The True Adonis]

Lol so this guy would have had to be moving a hell of a lot about 3 hours worth of running per day. 

Not at all.

People did not sit around and do nothing like today.  Imagine doing EVERYTHING by hand, riding horses (which burns a TON of calories) and basic everyday Victorian Life.

You will need a lot of calories.

[Disgusted]

Not at all.

People did not sit around and do nothing like today.  Imagine doing EVERYTHING by hand, riding horses (which burns a TON of calories) and basic everyday Victorian Life.

You will need a lot of calories.

Lol so this guy would have had to be moving a hell of a lot about 3 hours worth of running per day. 

Wrong! Burning an extra 2000 calories a day everyday is not possible to maintain. This article is bs.

[OTHstrong]

Don`t agree with Sandow`s Diet?  


http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9A03E7DE123CE433A25755C0A9609C94669ED7CF

you are so gullible it is not even funny. Tons of bodybuilder who are shredded always claim they eat chocolate, ice cream, cookies and pop etc, WHY, simply cause it make them ten times more impressive.

You bought those lines, the rest of us just laugh at it.

[Marty Champions]

Not at all.

People did not sit around and do nothing like today.  Imagine doing EVERYTHING by hand, riding horses (which burns a TON of calories) and basic everyday Victorian Life.

You will need a lot of calories.

i think in the winter months they didnt do much at all

[deadpan]

I don`t think you understand that article. 

a drop in infant mortality rated would not skew the average lifespan statistic by that much, especially considering how many children people were having back then. the average was something like 8 kids in the 1800's and today it's 1.4. even with the infant mortality rate lowered they would still be having more than enough kids to even out the numbers back then.

any idiot can tell you food quality, air quality, working conditions, medical treatments, etc have improved DRASTICALLY since the 1800-1900's. it's still not great but it's significantly better.

i understood your bullshit no-supporting-studies-or-facts-cited article just fine. i just don't buy it.  

[Mr Nobody]

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[njflex]

you are so gullible it is not even funny. Tons of bodybuilder who are shredded always claim they eat chocolate, ice cream, cookies and pop etc, WHY, simply cause it make them ten times more impressive.

You bought those lines, the rest of us just laugh at it.

contest dieting is not supossed to be fun,easy,and matter a fact attitude.

[arce1988]

  Got to love TA   

[oldtimer1]

I don't get the Florence Griffith Joyner remarks. What relevance is her death to anything mentioned in this thread? She had a congenital vascular malformation in her brain that caused an epileptic type  seizure that caused her to asphyxiate.  

[OTHstrong]

contest dieting is not supossed to be fun,easy,and matter a fact attitude.

exactly, but bodybuilders are like, ```Look I get shredded off ice cream and pizza`` and only Adam believes them

[Marty Champions]

adonis thinks hes trolling the masses when in reality hes just trolling his friends , me and all the others on tonite and it aint cool id rather talk about free energy magnetic engines instead of this stupid shit about eatining maintenance calories to get shreadded

[Mr Nobody]

yeah maybe for the average joe schmoe 20% bodyfat fatso.

bodyweight means fuck all, compare me-shredded 210- vs average fatso no mscle all skinnyfat 210.

need they both same calories?dont think so.

he needs much less than i do, and id simply gain weight slow but sure on 3300cals a day, with training and fulltime job, wouldnt stay as lean at 3300.

bodyweight means fuck all,if anything, lean bodyweight maybe.

im not even sure if 2500 isnt too much for non physical labouring men to maintain.

my point, general reccomendations seem bit on the high side imo, but yeah its hard to make a one size fits all rule.

its not like most ppl gove a shit until what they see in mirror disgusts them, and its not like people even knwo what food has how much calories.

Well I tend agree, the deal is if don't look worth a damn in the mirror basic line you got to make adjustments bottom line.

[The True Adonis]

you are so gullible it is not even funny. Tons of bodybuilder who are shredded always claim they eat chocolate, ice cream, cookies and pop etc, WHY, simply cause it make them ten times more impressive.

You bought those lines, the rest of us just laugh at it.

[The True Adonis]

Wrong! Burning an extra 2000 calories a day everyday is not possible to maintain. This article is bs.

My TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is around 3200 calories with zero activity.  That mean I can eat 3200 and not gain any fat. 

[deadpan]

yeah maybe for the average joe schmoe 20% bodyfat fatso.

bodyweight means fuck all, compare me-shredded 210- vs average fatso no mscle all skinnyfat 210.

need they both same calories?dont think so.

he needs much less than i do, and id simply gain weight slow but sure on 3300cals a day, with training and fulltime job, wouldnt stay as lean at 3300.

bodyweight means fuck all,if anything, lean bodyweight maybe.

im not even sure if 2500 isnt too much for non physical labouring men to maintain.

my point, general reccomendations seem bit on the high side imo, but yeah its hard to make a one size fits all rule.

its not like most ppl gove a shit until what they see in mirror disgusts them, and its not like people even knwo what food has how much calories.

i think general recommendations are designed specifically TO make people out of shape and sedentary, it's in the government's best interests. i mean, they recommend 75 grams of protein per day, no way that's nearly enough for anyone to build muscle on. perhaps a small woman. but i'm the paranoid sort.

[The True Adonis]

a drop in infant mortality rated would not skew the average lifespan statistic by that much, especially considering how many children people were having back then. the average was something like 8 kids in the 1800's and today it's 1.4. even with the infant mortality rate lowered they would still be having more than enough kids to even out the numbers back then.

any idiot can tell you food quality, air quality, working conditions, medical treatments, etc have improved DRASTICALLY since the 1800-1900's. it's still not great but it's significantly better.

i understood your bullshit no-supporting-studies-or-facts-cited article just fine. i just don't buy it.  

Again, I don`t think you understood the article or what Max Lifespan is compared to Average Lifespan and how those figures are obtained.

[deadpan]

you are so gullible it is not even funny. Tons of bodybuilder who are shredded always claim they eat chocolate, ice cream, cookies and pop etc, WHY, simply cause it make them ten times more impressive.

You bought those lines, the rest of us just laugh at it.

lol, you gotta remember this is the same guy that thought that insanely shredded black dude who didn't even know how to diet or workout was "all natty"

[The True Adonis]

some actually do eat that stuff, but they go through brutal starvation before and after that, or its carb and fat reload day or trying out stuff.

i even eat couple lbs icecream at once, but yeah, then i follow that up with 2 days of eating nothing at all

yeah but many people go through some time of deinal for a while when its already way late, and then have to deal with a total mess later on.

its ok, theyre great motivational sighting material for dieting for me.

i said previously i sometimes go to mcdonalds have a diet coke and have a look at the fatsos there waiting unpatiently in line like igs do before feeding time, and they all look like couple days fasting wouldnt hurt them

Not true.  Its all about Calories in vs. Calories out simple as that.  No need to "purge" yourself or do anything silly like that.  I am 176.2 (this mornings weight) and I eat 2600 calories daily-Very low for me actually and have a nice six pack going on.  

[The True Adonis]

lol, you gotta remember this is the same guy that thought that insanely shredded black dude who didn't even know how to diet or workout was "all natty"

He is not Natural?    Can`t even afford protein powder or anything and somehow he spends it all on steroids despite not even knowing ANYTHING about dieting?