seven copper fake ass pennies, your update pic was all arms, your chest, traps, and shoulder tie in are non-existent, no thickness, no density, no hardcore training, what you curling since your all arms...........im curling the 110s for 3, 225 lbs on olympic bar for 5, thats the difference in wieghing 285 jacked, and 245 small thinking your big son..............SHUT DOWN!