Would a prime Tyson dominate the Heavyweight Division Today?

[HockeyFightFan]

I never said I was pro fuckface! Cant either of you fucking read! Besides I would never give my name to you assholes. Theres probably only 1 or 2 getbiggers I would give my real name to. It sure a s fuck isnt either one of you two jackoff's.

I have a real job, i didnt go pro. I sure as fuck am not going to have photoshopped pictures of me floating around the internet because you two fuckin idiots couldn't win an argument on a bodybuilding forum.

So because you two assholes go to the gym ypu must be pro bodybuilders? Right? Walk into any boxing gym in the world the majority of them have no pro boxers, the best of them have  maybe 3 or 4. You two are so fuckin stupid why did you post on a topic you know nothing about?

I'm still calling you a 100% bullshitter. You are digging a deeper hole. What years did you train at Kronk?

[Z Father]

I never said I was pro fuckface! Cant either of you fucking read! Besides I would never give my name to you assholes. Theres probably only 1 or 2 getbiggers I would give my real name to. It sure a s fuck isnt either one of you two jackoff's.

I have a real job, i didnt go pro. I sure as fuck am not going to have photoshopped pictures of me floating around the internet because you two fuckin idiots couldn't win an argument on a bodybuilding forum.

So because you two assholes go to the gym ypu must be pro bodybuilders? Right? Walk into any boxing gym in the world the majority of them have no pro boxers, the best of them have  maybe 3 or 4. You two are so fuckin stupid why did you post on a topic you know nothing about?

Methinks he doth protest too much 

[beakdoctor]

Its not a hole when its the truth, guy. Your digging a hole because your wrong and your begining to realise it. I trained there from 1998-2000.

Z, who gives a shit what ypu think. I can tell you things about Kronk that you cant google. It was just one gymm I trained at throughout the years. Because at that time I lived a few blocks away and I happened to work with and know Arnold Sugar Hill real well. I trained at 4 different gyms from 92 to 2001.

[HockeyFightFan]

Its not a hole when its the truth, guy. Your digging a hole because your wrong and your begining to realise it. I trained there from 1998-2000.

Z, who gives a shit what ypu think. I can tell you things about Kronk that you cant google. It was just one gymm I trained at throughout the years. Because at that time I lived a few blocks away and I happened to work with and know Arnold Sugar Hill real well. I trained at 4 different gyms from 92 to 2001.

Now I know you are full of shit.

You never fought for, or trained at, Kronk Gym. If you did, and you know so much about boxing, who and when did you fight in the Michigan Golden Gloves? It is well known that Kronk pushes all of their amateur fighters into the GG's. Bullshitter....

[beakdoctor]

Now I know you are full of shit.

You never fought for, or trained at, Kronk Gym. If you did, and you know so much about boxing, who and when did you fight in the Michigan Golden Gloves? It is well known that Kronk pushes all of their amateur fighters into the GG's. Bullshitter....

I never said I fought for kronk gym asshole, I never wore their banner across my trunks. I trained there. I sparred there. I practiced there. I wasn't there with the hopes of going pro you dipshit. I was a grown man had a full time fucking job. I started boxing in 1990, I fought a few exhibitions. I fought an exhibition at the diamond gloves in Ohio. My last exhibition was in 1994. I didn't go to Kronk until several years later...Why the fuck am I explaining any of this to you. You're just a loser who can't even grasp stepping foot in a boxing gym because you are nothing more than a fanboy. Fuck your life must be miserable.

You pretending to know about Kronk gym is a fuckin joke, like I said you would be scared shitless just to drive through the neighborhood. By 1998 when I trained there I was in my late 20's asshole and working full time. I did it to be able to handle myself, stay in shape and because I loved boxing. Golden gloves and diamond glove tournaments are for teenagers. Not grown men asshole.

[The Ugly]

Tex Cobb.

[beakdoctor]

Now I know you are full of shit.

You never fought for, or trained at, Kronk Gym. If you did, and you know so much about boxing, who and when did you fight in the Michigan Golden Gloves? It is well known that Kronk pushes all of their amateur fighters into the GG's. Bullshitter....

Why in the hell would I have to lie to you? Why in the hell would anyone have to make this up?

The Kronk recreation center was just that a rec center run by the city of Detroit. The gym was hardly even a gym. It was a boxing ring, 2 or 3 heavy bags. A staionary bike and a few slanted wooden planks to do sit-ups on and a bicycle-like machine but the peddles were for yout hands. It was in the cellar of the rec center..Verry small space. More neighborhood kids went there to play basketball than box.The hot water pipes ran across the top of the gym and were exposed. It was always hot as fuck down there. In the late 90's Kronk was a fading name in boxing. Manny Steward became a trainer for hire and Arnold Hill was starting to run it. Steward came by only every once in a while in the early morning that was a time slot reserved for the best fighters. The gym was covered with news articles from when it first gained fame in the late 70's. Nothing recent or modern was in there. At the time I went there, there were no name fighters at the gym. The best guy was a cruiserweight with an aweful record( Kadee King not sure on spelling ). There were a few amatuers. 1 or 2 pro;s, neither of whom were good. Nontheless there were always a bunch of young guys there willing to learn. The trainers didn't even pay attention to you if they didn't think you could be pro material. Even Hill, who was my friend, hardly spoke to me at the gym. When I would bother him for coaching he would have me stand in the corner and practice my jab. He would say, work on that for a little while and Ill get back to you. I'd be there for hours working on my jab. When I spoke to him again he'd tell me "you need to work on your jab some more."

The gym was a few blocks from my house. The fact that this is sooooo unbelievable to you lets me know what a lame excuse for a life you have.

[gee38]

beakdoctor

you are being too modest

you trained with james toney

and knew manny steward personally

you must have some great tales about those days at the kronk- please share them with fellow fight enthusiasts

[BB]

Tex Cobb.

Tex Cobb was tough as heck, fun fighter to watch -

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[beakdoctor]

beakdoctor

you are being too modest

you trained with james toney

and knew manny steward personally

you must have some great tales about those days at the kronk- please share them with fellow fight enthusiasts

Are you serious? or being a smart ass?

James Toney was an asshole with a true mean streak. He would drop in the gym I trained at back in 90-91. He was from Annn Arbor. But my Gym was in Dearborn Heights. He was up and comming and had a huge chip on his shoulder. This was right around the time he fought Merqui Sosa. It was on TV so when ever he came around people would stop and watch him. He came with a fairly small group of people. Anyway he would never pay his gym fee's.

One day he walks into the gym and the owner/trainer, a guy named Kelly Kroy, says under his breath "Its Toney again, he never pays his dues." Toney heard and his head perked up. Kelly tried to make a joke of it and said "James are you going to pay your dues this time?" Toney didn't say shit. He stepped into the ring to spar and he ended up sparring with Kroy, who was still an active kick boxer all though he was older and washed up.

Well Toney beat the fucking brakes off of Kelly. Kelly got beat the fuck down. He had a look on his face of pain, it wasnt like he was dazed but in actuall physical pain. Toney got out of the ring took his gloves off and left without paying his fee's again. Kelly was still on his hands and knee's.

[beakdoctor]

beakdoctor

you are being too modest

you trained with james toney

and knew manny steward personally

you must have some great tales about those days at the kronk- please share them with fellow fight enthusiasts

Manny was a really nice guy. I never knew him when I trained at Kronk. I only knew him later just few years before his death. One of his fighters, William Caveman Lee, used to buy his beer at a Liquor store on Livernois St across from the police station (10th pct.) This was just a few miles north of the former Kronk gym.

I recognized Caveman Lee, he was really just an ex-con and alcoholic at this point, but he was so happy to be recognized. We started talking about boxing. Caveman got so excited because I am a boxing nut and historian we spoke about all the kronk fighters, Duane Thomas, Milton McCrory, Rick Womack. Lee had a pretty famous fight with John Locicero and a blowout at the hands of Hagler. So we talked about that. He said Manny and he were still close and that Manny still looks out for him. I didn't believe him. I didn't think Manny still lived in Detroit. So he calls Manny on the phone and hands the phone over, we start talking. I tell him who I am and where I work, I tell him I know Sugar Hill. Manny ends the conversation by offering to take me and my wife to dinner. Class act, all the way.

When I was a teenager, he lived across the street from my girlfriends house. I always wanted to talk to him then but was intimidated. We wouldn't meet until 2008.

[gee38]

no need to be so obnoxious is there?

 

[gee38]

A pub I used to drink in in London- the victoria was owned by charlie magri and you used to get a lot of the boxers in there.

I am also on good terms with John Conteh whose brother Gerry is a mate- he runs a bar called Hannahs in Liverpool. Both sound enough in fairness.

[beakdoctor]

A pub I used to drink in in London- the victoria was owned by charlie magri and you used to get a lot of the boxers in there.

I am also on good terms with John Conteh whose brother Gerry is a mate- he runs a bar called Hannahs in Liverpool. Both sound enough in fairness.

Yeah John Conteh, excellent Light Heavyweight, if I remember correctly.

Might not want to share those stories. There are some simple minded people on here who live such worthless existences that can't even imagine it might be a true story.

[coltrane]

Tyson would of dominated most, but the Klitschko's would've gave him trouble. I still think a prime D'amato era Tyson would win, but it would be tough. Tyson had a bit of trouble with tall fighters, and didn't fight many tall good fighters in their prime.

No they wouldn't have.

[HockeyFightFan]

Yeah John Conteh, excellent Light Heavyweight, if I remember correctly.

Might not want to share those stories. There are some simple minded people on here who live such worthless existences that can't even imagine it might be a true story.

You are full of shit.

At very best, you sniffed jockstraps at/near Kronk once or twice.

Another Internet bullshitter with legends of days past.

[Cold]

I'm actually Cus Amato's son.

I trained Manny Pacquiao prior to him working with Freddie Roach. Prior to working with me, Manny's left hand wasn't good enough to wipe his own azz. Yet I get no credit for this.

I'm the reason why Anderson Silva is a legend. I showed him how to use his feet. Before he met me, dude couldn't even walk in a straight line.

I was well on my way to being a world champion in the middleweight class when I wrecked my shoulders working on my upper pecs.

You guys are all full of shit. I'm the only one who tells the truth here. Your opinion is like your azz hole. It stinks.

[Cold]

Are you serious? or being a smart ass?

James Toney was an asshole with a true mean streak. He would drop in the gym I trained at back in 90-91. He was from Annn Arbor. But my Gym was in Dearborn Heights. He was up and comming and had a huge chip on his shoulder. This was right around the time he fought Merqui Sosa. It was on TV so when ever he came around people would stop and watch him. He came with a fairly small group of people. Anyway he would never pay his gym fee's.

One day he walks into the gym and the owner/trainer, a guy named Kelly Kroy, says under his breath "Its Toney again, he never pays his dues." Toney heard and his head perked up. Kelly tried to make a joke of it and said "James are you going to pay your dues this time?" Toney didn't say shit. He stepped into the ring to spar and he ended up sparring with Kroy, who was still an active kick boxer all though he was older and washed up.

Well Toney beat the fucking brakes off of Kelly. Kelly got beat the fuck down. He had a look on his face of pain, it wasnt like he was dazed but in actuall physical pain. Toney got out of the ring took his gloves off and left without paying his fee's again. Kelly was still on his hands and knee's.

My 15 years of posting on getbig has taught me 1 lesson:

Anyone who writes an essay trying to prove their story is a lying sack of shyt.

[beakdoctor]

You are full of shit.

At very best, you sniffed jockstraps at/near Kronk once or twice.

Another Internet bullshitter with legends of days past.

you got to be shitting me. You can't believe this. Like its so far outside of your life's experiences that it just cannot be real. You're a fucking joke. I might as well not even tell you about the time I fucked the queen Of England.

[beakdoctor]

My 15 years of posting on getbig has taught me 1 lesson:

Anyone who writes an essay trying to prove their story is a lying sack of shyt.

wow 15 years online. so you're a loser too? tthat's quite an accomplishment. No wonder you don't know shyt.

[che]

 Beakdoctor  is full of shit , he talks/sounds  like a boxing  fan not a fighter  , I hope this helps .

[Cold]

wow 15 years online. so you're a loser too? tthat's quite an accomplishment. No wonder you don't know shyt.

If you think only losers post on getbig, then why are you here my friend?
Go delete your account homo.

[beakdoctor]

Beetch if you think only losers post on getbig, then WTF are you doing here? Fukken hypocrite.

Go delete your account homo.

noPe. only you Darren and hockeyfag are loser. The rest of GB is ppretty good. Rest assured you h o m o s are fucking it up though.:

[beakdoctor]

Beakdoctor  is full of shit , he talks/sounds  like a boxing  fan not a fighter  , I hope this helps .

wow really. I thought you were the resident expertI'm dissapointed.       

[Cold]

noPe. only you Darren and hockeyfag are loser. The rest of GB is ppretty good. Rest assured you h o m o s are fucking it up though.:

Haha. Show us a picture of you and Emmanuel Stewart together. Or those famous boxers you hung out and trained with. U must have taken a pic with one of those people through those years. Don't tell me in a decade you trained at famous gyms you never snapped a picture. haha.