Great Stack = 40kg Moar Muclez ?

[C-BuZz]

It appears that being juiced to the gills year round will enable you to hold 35-40KG (90LB) more lean muscle. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Max I can get to as a natural is ~200LB @ ~10% BF.

This bro is 311LB & similar height.


Discuss.

[C-BuZz]

yeah but hes trained for longer than 3 years, you realize thats an upfront pr campaign to soon advertise super strong and effective supplements, which will make you huge within 3 years.

this guy has over a decade of all you can inject buffet steroids history, and all the other drugs.

So you agree with me that a great stack = 40kg?

[C-BuZz]

hm, lets say like this, steroids alone will put on 20kg of pure muscle after some long time, (not 3 years,forget that),and then with gh on top of that and insulin, yeah, 40kgs for genetic elite will happen.

pure rock hard muscle, not dbol bloof.

but its wrong to speak of a stack, its more a time of youth(lenght-wise)on all drugs possible.

I said "year round". So yes, over time. Not instantly. You are trying to confuse the simple question.

I've been training for 2 decades & I look the same as when I started. Probably worse now actually.

[C-BuZz]

yeah youre natty so wheres the suprise

even a steroid user will run into limits and then has to increase dosage or add compounds

youre thinking(i hope youre not really)that steroids will build a rami within 3 years, this is insane and will not happen.

how can i say, go and check ppl who have used 3 years non stop with or without gh and see how they look.

Where are you getting this 3 year thing from? I never said 3 years....

[C-BuZz]

ah sorry i misread a thing.

btw, serious question, how do you feel about training for 2 decades and still looking same?

did you expect more from the mag promises?(just takes longer blabla).

at what point on the road did it occur to you first time that it all might be bs?

I've got no prob with how I look which is still better than 99% of the population. Definitely not going to pull an analbolicwholio just to get my guns to 17".

I realized early on in the process (early 90's) after 2-3 years of delusion/buying supplements ect that it was all a crock of shit.

[Borracho]

I've got no prob with how I look which is still better than 99% of the population. Definitely not going to pull an analbolicwholio just to get my guns to 17".

I realized early on in the process (early 90's) after 2-3 years of delusion/buying supplements ect that it was all a crock of shit.

I know that the general population looks like shit and are easily impressed. But, what has been your main reason to not cross over?

Do you practice any other sports?... Looking back if I had gotten into something else like kickboxing, cycling, etc I probably wouldn't have used gear.

[jude2]

People respond differently to drugs.

[Borracho]

People respond differently to drugs.

Yeah, there's a lot of guys trying to get that size running all sorts of things but it'll never happen for them. Many naturals think otherwise....

[C-BuZz]

I know that the general population looks like shit and are easily impressed. But, what has been your main reason to not cross over?

Do you practice any other sports?... Looking back if I had gotten into something else like kickboxing, cycling, etc I probably wouldn't have used gear.

Muscles are fake/temporary with the potential to fuck your natural hormones up. Who would want that?

Did kickboxing for many years, but not anymore. Just 10km jogs a few times a week.

[Borracho]

Muscles are fake/temporary with the potential to fuck your natural hormones up. Who would want that?

Did kickboxing for many years, but not anymore. Just 10km jogs a few times a week.

Yeah I get that but you know everything in life is temporary even your natural built muscle. I always thought that I'd go on hrt later on in life anyway so I just figured to start them off a bit earlier than planned. I started losing motivation for training do to the lack of results...in the end this has been better for my health than other things I could have resorted to. I care more about my health now and I don't even drink anymore ...alcohol causes way more harm to people than gear but hey its legal and acceptable.

Better to not rely on anything obviously but the gym has always been good to me.

[Natural Man]

People respond differently to drugs.

They all shorten their life expectancy using them tho.

[Borracho]

They all shorten their life expectancy using them tho.

I don't keep up with the past bber's but I imagine compared to the current pros they lived longer. Regardless, even if someone is running low doses they can have negative effects on liver, prostate, cholesterol, etc. Makes sense to get regular blood work.