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Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« on: September 23, 2013, 02:34:26 PM »
I use arimidex on cycle anytime I use testosterone.  For me-I'm prone to water retention and I find arimidex a nice ancillary.

Now recently I've added tren ace to the mix(test e & tren ace).  And although I havn't acquired gyno, I do feel my nipples get sensitive from time to time. I stopped the tren for 2 weeks just to see if it was the tren and now everything is back to normal.

So my question is, I am going to use letrozole to replace arimidex.  However, I hear the estrogen rebound effect is extreme w/ letro once use has concluded. 

I'm interested on some of your guys thoughts on letro.
 

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 02:58:37 PM »
Tren has zero estrogen conversion....... you need to research tren

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 03:55:31 PM »
shrek, tren has zero estrogen conversion BUT its an epic bitch titts causing drug none the less.by way of prolactin,progesteron.

for christ sake.

nicademus, yes the nipple thing is from the tren in your case, very much obviously.

you can stay on the arimidex, very much same properties to the letro.both do rebound.come off of them very slowly.

dont use either of them with nolvadex, just do not.

and yes, neither letro nor adex will help with the tren prgesteron,prolactin sides.

this is one of the reasons why i find it a fucking shit steroid.

can use masteron instead and all will be good.except hairloss maybe.


In your estimation does letro cause a more significant estrogen rebound effect than arimidex?  Or are the differences hardly noticeable?

My reasoning for trying letro in place of arimidex was due to the fact that "supposedly" letro is 20x stronger than dex in terms of estrogen reduction. It was my hope that by creating a very low baseline level of estrogen-it would take longer for the levels to reach a level that causes problems.  Admittedly, I didn't take the progesterone and prolactin angle into consideration.  I just knew tren was the cause.

And are you saying that estrogen level is not a factor in my case?

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 04:03:25 PM »
and for you , I did not say tren wasn't causing it ..... I told him go research tren therefore I wouldn't have type out a FUCKING paragraph explaining what he could easily find


Crying doesn't make your point anymore valid. 

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 04:09:32 PM »
Again.  Whether tren causes gyno directly or indirectly it IS the cause of MY problem.

I explained my reasoning for my question.  While you just gave a back handed response-and was thus treated with a more direct back handed fuck you.

You don't like it.  Don't come come off as such a little bitch next time.

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 04:19:05 PM »
Again.  Whether tren causes gyno directly or indirectly it IS the cause of MY problem.

I explained my reasoning for my question.  While you just gave a back handed response-and was thus treated with a more direct back handed fuck you.

You don't like it.  Don't come come off as such a little bitch next time.

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 Simply put, Trenbolone is the most powerful overall steroid in use by bodybuilders today. Tren, as it is often called, is both highly androgenic and anabolic. It is chemically unable to aromatize, and therefore produces no estrogen buildup. This, along with its high androgenic properties, makes the muscle produced by this drug very hard and defined.

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 Users of  Tren Acetate 100 often report amazing gains in both strength and quality muscle mass, while the fat and water seems to "melt" off. To give one an idea of just how powerful this hormone is as a muscle builder, please note that the powerful steroid Testosterone has an anabolic rating of 100, while Tren has a rating of 500! The drug is also a powerful fat burning aid, and lots of bodybuilders actually claim that the body will still drop bodyfat very quickly, even when one's diet isn't very clean.

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 04:46:09 PM »
Hey dumb shit.  If I wanted the "definition" of tren I would have ask'd for it. Besides, nobody is debating the non aromatizing effects of the drug.

So the next question is: are you seriously debating "me" about what tren does to "me" and how "my" body responds to it?

My question was in regards to letrozole anyway.

Try again retard.

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 04:56:27 PM »
just get cabaser

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 05:00:18 PM »
I use letro due to I have gyno , but it seems that you don't have an estrogen issue ,,,,,, so don't worry about ANTI ESTROGENS

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 05:02:03 PM »
Thank you. 

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 05:03:18 PM »
Thank you. 
RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 05:08:41 PM »
RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

I'd rather ask real people w/ real experience.  Google and dudes like you say Tren doesn't give me gyno.

I say-fuck off.  It does me.

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 05:15:21 PM »
I'd rather ask real people w/ real experience.  Google and dudes like you say Tren doesn't give me gyno.

I say-fuck off.  It does me.
when did I say it dkoesnt cause gyno like affects? I stated that it does not convert to estrogen and you were inquiring about letro adex aromisine , and those are for estrogen which tren does not cause
you need to look into prolactin problems

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 05:28:22 PM »
Cabaser.  Makes sense.  I believe that's what I need.

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 06:41:13 PM »
trenbolone is neither most androgenic nor most anabolic steroid used.

theres much stronger stuff out there.

just saying.



I like the hardness and strength gains tren provides.  Plus I don't get any of the other sides associated w/ teen. Even though I've used tren probably 4 times in the past.  This tender nipple thing for me is new.

 

Tren, winstrol, and test e have given me a very nice solid build.  What is a comparable if not better compound to tren in your opinion with regards to these three drugs?

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2013, 09:59:32 PM »

In your estimation does letro cause a more significant estrogen rebound effect than arimidex?  Or are the differences hardly noticeable?

My reasoning for trying letro in place of arimidex was due to the fact that "supposedly" letro is 20x stronger than dex in terms of estrogen reduction. It was my hope that by creating a very low baseline level of estrogen-it would take longer for the levels to reach a level that causes problems.  Admittedly, I didn't take the progesterone and prolactin angle into consideration.  I just knew tren was the cause.

And are you saying that estrogen level is not a factor in my case?
no not 20 times stronger, lol, yes much stronger but arimidex is still very strong as well.

Now, the comparison of the results of the letro versus the rebound is like crumbs falling off the table. LIKE GAINING 100 FOLD AND LOSING 10 ON THE REBOUND, get my drift?

and yes letro is still beneficial while taking tren even though tren does not convert, DON'T ASK ME HOW, I don't know the semantics but it's just the way it works, PERIOD.

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Re: Letrozole and estrogen rebound
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2013, 10:46:18 AM »
Thanks guys.  I just wanted to read how opinions differentiate.