I've been drinking a shitload of unsweetened vanilla almond milk lately.

[Kim Jong Bob]

I'm trying to get jacked and shredded here bro and you're killing my muscle buzz with all this health talk.

lol 

Im going to steal that line and use it irl

[Big Chiro Flex]

lol 

Im going to steal that line and use it irl

Same line I say to my doctor every 6 months when I go in for my bloodwork and physical 

[cephissus]

I love diet coke as well but I'm trying to minimize my artificial sweetener use. 

why's that bro?

[Big Chiro Flex]

why's that bro?

Conflicting research on the matter. I'm still on the fence, I've seen damning evidence on both sides. But I'd like to minimize exposure to as many toxins as possible unless I find them truly necessary or worth the risk. Until I research further, my stance is: they may not be immediately bad for me, but are they GOOD for me?

Also, diet coke is extremely acidic. Trying to stay on the more alkaline side of the pH balance is hard enough on a bodybuilding diet.....adding a few can a day of diet coke isn't worth it to me in this regards. I'll still have prob one a week, just try to not make it a habit.

[cephissus]

damn, i've been downing vitamin water zeroes like a guy

maybe it's time to put a hold on that course of action...

[Big Chiro Flex]

damn, i've been downing vitamin water zeroes like a guy

maybe it's time to put a hold on that course of action...

I've consumed a sickening amount in the 7 years I've been bodybuilding and competing. By all means I should have full blown Alzheimer's by age 30 if the theories are correct about aspartame. I just wonder what the effect of 20-30 years of continual consumption at this rate will do to me. Since I'm so on the fence still, I just had to ask myself "do I really need to taste something sweet or can I just suck it up and drink water?" Figure I better tone it back until I'm fully convinced of what the truth is behind sweeteners.

[coltrane]

almond 'milk' is the most empty substance you will find in a carton ever

it has no taste, its just crap

Fucking moron. 

Look at the vitamins/minerals in this shit?!  For 30 cals per cup its a powerhouse. 

This is a superfood in terms of cal/serving and what you get in return.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Do you know what Almond milk is?  When they harvest almonds, a lot are not suitable for consumption, they only choose the nice ones to package and sell, so all of the almonds that used to go to livestock feed now head to a big mill that presses out all of the liquid and then they add gum and cornstarch to thicken it and sell it as Almond Milk.

[coltrane]

Do you know what Almond milk is?  When they harvest almonds, a lot are not suitable for consumption, they only choose the nice ones to package and sell, so all of the almonds that used to go to livestock feed now head to a big mill that presses out all of the liquid and then they add gum and cornstarch to thicken it and sell it as Almond Milk.

The shit is still very healthy for you.  Check out the nutritional content on the label vs calories consumed. 

I love this stuff!  Especially while dieting.

[dyslexic]

Almond, Soy and Whey protein all mixed.... guzzle it out of the cartons EVERY day ALL day. I'm ripped to the bone, and yeah, I don't have a problem with pics, but then I'll get carried away and be posting all the time.

Organic Soy. No "estrogenic" B.S side effects except maybe the elimination of Prostate Cancer.


Great and Cheap combo for Protein and staying lean as fuck.

[njflex]

ALOT of future phd's and dr's in this thread great stuff. ...

[Big Chiro Flex]

Lol.

What does the research say about injecting your body with homemade compounds of questionable sterility originally formulated to inject in animals? Any potential long term risk or toxicity there? I would think diet soda to be the least of one's concerns.

You obviously haven't done much research.

[Big Chiro Flex]

Clearly, injecting homemade horse steroids is part of healthy lifestyle.

Clearly drinking diet coke is good for you too. Do you even bodybuild bro?

[Big Chiro Flex]

I don't know what I would call what I do these days, but suffice to say, I have been down your road.

There's nothing wrong with drinking diet soda in moderation.

Great thanks for your input   

[ProudVirgin69]

You obviously haven't done much research.

Really?  Ok, maybe like 250mg test is probably not bad, but anything beyond that is pushing it..... and any kind of other steroid or ancillary is totally out of the question.

Diet coke, yeah I wouldn't recommend drinking a lot of it but 1-2 servings a day is almost certainly safe.  I try and limit it to just when i need one.  Hundreds of millions of people consume artificial sweeteners everyday.... if it were so bad, then where are the bodies?  I can certainly understand avoiding it though.

No stevia for you Chiro?

[Big Chiro Flex]

Really?  Ok, maybe like 250mg test is probably not bad, but anything beyond that is pushing it..... and any kind of other steroid or ancillary is totally out of the question.

Diet coke, yeah I wouldn't recommend drinking a lot of it but 1-2 servings a day is almost certainly safe.  I try and limit it to just when i need one.  Hundreds of millions of people consume artificial sweeteners everyday.... if it were so bad, then where are the bodies?  I can certainly understand avoiding it though.

No stevia for you Chiro?

My points on this argument are:

Conflicting research on the matter. I'm still on the fence, I've seen damning evidence on both sides. But I'd like to minimize exposure to as many toxins as possible unless I find them truly necessary or worth the risk. Until I research further, my stance is: they may not be immediately bad for me, but are they GOOD for me?

Also, diet coke is extremely acidic. Trying to stay on the more alkaline side of the pH balance is hard enough on a bodybuilding diet.....adding a few can a day of diet coke isn't worth it to me in this regards. I'll still have prob one a week, just try to not make it a habit.

As well as some unsettling info regarding who is performing the studies and possibility of unethical practices related to the testing.

I'm still not at a place to have a full blown debate yet. I still need to spend more time on the topic. I will say I had lunch with a neurosurgeon this summer and he saw me order the diet coke and we got into the topic. I know neurology VERY well, but this dude schools me still. He is vehemently opposed to sweeteners from a health standpoint.

Stevia seems to be pretty awesome though. Wish more places had it as an option   

[njflex]

A lot of artificially enhanced individuals discussing about artificially enhanced ingrediants in food/drinks.

[Mr Nobody]

Pure Poison.

[Big Chiro Flex]

A lot of artificially enhanced individuals discussing about artificially enhanced ingrediants in food/drinks.

Very true.

But seriously, we all know bodybuilding is not an inherently healthy endeavor. Why not try to minimize exposure to risks while still pursuing our goals. I believe this makes a difference. There is a threshold for what your body can tolerate and adapt to  before the onset of dis-ease.

[Hulkotron]

Whole milk and liver tabs are the keys to a great physique.

[njflex]

Whole milk and liver tabs are the keys to a great physique.

without question...

[Hulkotron]

wide grip bench presses to the neck.   

Yes more getbiggers need to perform this lift.

[njflex]

I bought tons of liver tabs back in the day based on Vince Gironda's recommendation in his MuscleMag column. I still have the book "Unleashing the Wild Physique" he wrote with Kennedy.

Liver tabs and wide grip bench presses to the neck.   

not based on gironda book never read it.,but bench to the neck are good.  i knew a pro from from south America he showed us this back in late 80's

[Hulkotron]

Yes I have been advocating this exercise for some time around "these parts"

Have you considered trying heavy barbell benches to the throat?

[njflex]

use smith machine keeps it straight line and easier to do/spot.