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Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« on: October 20, 2013, 05:09:29 AM »
While I was watching the movie "Bigger, Stronger, Faster" (available on youtube, all of us should watch it), two things struck me: that the Congress, against the recommendation of the experts in the DEA, the AMA and the FDA, made AAS a schedule 3 drug (think about that) and that Congress (again) made several changes to the FDA regs so that the supplement industry (strangely housed in Utah) could essentially market anything without any nutritional oversight.

I am sure that many of you are saying, "welcome to the party, asshole", but I hadn't made the connection until then. What if, like the illegal drug industry needs weed to be illegal, the supplement industry needs to keep real AAS illegal so they can peddle their shit to unsuspecting teenagers? The supplement industry is a several billion $$$ a year industry and can surely afford to purchase a few key authoritarian Congressmen.

As if I needed another reason to distrust my government.


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Re: Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 06:36:18 AM »
I don't know if you recall the 2004 ban on steroidal supplements etc...? They banned tons of toxic OTC steriods , pro-hormones etc.. :'(


The industry def didn't lobby to make steroids schedule 3.

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Re: Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 06:45:13 AM »
IT industry combined have more money than many countries and they cannot make immigration bill go through and you think something as small and totally insignificant as suplement industry could ever have any influence on anything? Pharmaceutical companies might been involved. They had motive, money and power to do that. But supplement industry? Bitch please.

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Re: Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013, 06:53:44 AM »
"Declaration of intent. The legislature finds that the abuse of controlled substances constitutes a serious problem for society. As a partial solution, these laws regulating controlled substances have been enacted with penalties. The legislature, recognizing a need for differentiation among those who would violate these laws makes this declaration of legislative intent."

Congress can pass a statute pretty easily if either a; rational, convincible, substantial or compelling reason exist. So, they choose for the safety, health, and to protect the morals of the public.

They can stop you from buying whatever they deem or even make you buy things: like insurance, brocolli, butt plugs, etc.

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Re: Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2013, 06:58:21 AM »
It started in 1966, when the Federal guvment began drug testing it's employees. Then, from that point they began testing any government employee deemed to be in a governmental public interest job (police officer). Then, from that point because that was all started to provide for public safety and health, they began testing in schools. Then, from that point because public morals were a driving subject they targeted any thing they deemed not moral. Steroids were a hot topic. Steroids are considered not moral because, it's "cheating." This was all written by legisators where dozens of alcoholics, and prescription pill poppers exist, that have a lady or weiner on the side.  ::)

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Re: Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 07:10:32 AM »
No, it's just more -we know what's best for you- prohibition.

In fact, it is best for you not to juice, but it should still be your decision.  Works fine for alcohol and tobacco tax revenue.

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Re: Did the supplement industry lobby to make AAS schedule 3?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2013, 07:31:36 AM »
IT industry combined have more money than many countries and they cannot make immigration bill go through and you think something as small and totally insignificant as suplement industry could ever have any influence on anything? Pharmaceutical companies might been involved. They had motive, money and power to do that. But supplement industry? Bitch please.
While this may be true, everything looks insurmountable in the face of coordinated opposition. You couldn't find a single person to stand up for AAS and it became a short putt. Sadly, the only ones that stood up for AAS was the DEA, AMA and FDA. But the creeping tide of authoritarianism was an easy grab for the regular suspects in Congress.

There is an entire major political party slavishly devoted to the notion that EVERYTHING should be controlled and regulated by the government "for the public good". These folks wouldn't need anything more than the flimsiest excuse to ban and control water if it came to it. The supplement industry would need just the slightest push (like a few pieces of silver thrown to Orrin Hatch) to keep the wheels greased and make sure no libertine sentiments appears at inopportune times.